[Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Hi Guys, After doing all that investigation and learning I finally run the upgrade on my main work machine, expecting it to go reasonably smoothly. Not so far :-( The upgrade has happened, but some stuff is distinctly wrong and I have yet to understand why. The only desktop I can use is Unity 3D. Everything else comes up with a desktop, with my own desktop stuff, but with no menus at all. No toolbar, no shut-down, nothing. (I switch out of X to a raw terminal to shut down). Also, my multiple screens won't now operate independently. Something I see as the X session starts after login may give clues to this. I get a pop-up before X is fully running saying: -8<- : unable to launch "EDITOR=vi" X session --- "EDITOR=vi" not found; falling back to default session. -8<- The only option is 'Okay'. Nothing obvious in dmesg or the X_org logs. The multi-screens issue may be a symptom of X fallback? When I try to set non-mirrored, it says something like "requested size 3840x1080 is larger that 1920x1920". Both screens are 1920x1080. I do have a graphics card that needs a proprietary driver, though that was working OK on 10:04LTS. Any ideas, please? Thanks. Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 11:31, Gordon Scott wrote: The only desktop I can use is Unity 3D. Everything else comes up with a desktop, with my own desktop stuff, but with no menus at all. No toolbar, no shut-down, nothing. (I switch out of X to a raw terminal to shut down). Sometimes people install/remove stuff over the life of their system which results in one of the critical packages for operation to get removed. You can ensure that everything that should be installed is installed with this pair of commands (not the caret):- sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ I would run that and observe if any packages get _installed_ as they were missing which may lead to some of the issues you're seeing. Also, my multiple screens won't now operate independently. I would backup and remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and let X figure out your screen setup automagically, then perhaps use nvidia-settings to fiddle about with the layout. Something I see as the X session starts after login may give clues to this. I get a pop-up before X is fully running saying: -8<- : unable to launch "EDITOR=vi" X session --- "EDITOR=vi" not found; falling back to default session. -8<- That looks like an incorrectly formatted line in your x session startup somewhere? The multi-screens issue may be a symptom of X fallback? When I try to set non-mirrored, it says something like "requested size 3840x1080 is larger that 1920x1920". Both screens are 1920x1080. Removing xorg.conf will probably work this out. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Hi Alan, On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 11:48 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On 23/03/13 11:31, Gordon Scott wrote: > > The only desktop I can use is Unity 3D. Everything else comes up with a > > desktop, with my own desktop stuff, but with no menus at all. No > > toolbar, no shut-down, nothing. (I switch out of X to a raw terminal to > > shut down). > > > > Sometimes people install/remove stuff over the life of their system > which results in one of the critical packages for operation to get > removed. You can ensure that everything that should be installed is > installed with this pair of commands (not the caret):- > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ That installs nothing and suggests a couple of three that could be removed. > I would run that and observe if any packages get _installed_ as they > were missing which may lead to some of the issues you're seeing. > > > Also, my multiple screens won't now operate independently. > > > > I would backup and remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and let X figure out > your screen setup automagically, then perhaps use nvidia-settings to > fiddle about with the layout. Hm, I didn't know one could do that. It's made no difference, though :-( > > Something I see as the X session starts after login may give clues to > > this. I get a pop-up before X is fully running saying: > > > > -8<- > > : unable to launch "EDITOR=vi" X session --- "EDITOR=vi" not found; > > falling back to default session. > > -8<- > > > > That looks like an incorrectly formatted line in your x session startup > somewhere? I ran out of time yesterday, but today I'm running some find+grep lines. I have it 'set EDITOR=vi' in my personal .profile, which for the moment I've commented out with a #. I'll try that when the find has finished. Nothing else besides .xsession-errors and my mail has it. > > The multi-screens issue may be a symptom of X fallback? When I try to > > set non-mirrored, it says something like "requested size 3840x1080 is > > larger that 1920x1920". Both screens are 1920x1080. > > > > Removing xorg.conf will probably work this out. Sadly not yet. BTW, I've just felt obliged to get Windows-8 and my criticisms of Unity usability are as nothing compared to Win-8. That's absolutely appalling! Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 12:25 +, Gordon Scott wrote: > I ran out of time yesterday, but today I'm running some find+grep lines. > I have it 'set EDITOR=vi' in my personal .profile, which for the moment > I've commented out with a #. Which results only in the pop-up reporting that it can't launch "VISUAL=gvim", which is the preceding line in the same file. Commenting out that as well results at least in Gnome fallback setting up properly. The screens still won't separate with the same message. I'm puzzled that these two environment setting lines should result in that error/behaviour, and indeed what to do about it. Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Seems like I also can't mount my fileserver's NFS. 8< gordon@Gordon-CoolLED:$ sudo mount /osmia mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified 8< 8< gordon@Gordon-CoolLED:$ sudo mount --verbose /osmia mount.nfs: timeout set for Sat Mar 23 14:14:02 2013 mount.nfs: text-based options: 'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=10.0.0.108' mount.nfs: mount(2): Protocol not supported mount.nfs: trying 10.0.0.108 prog 13 vers 3 prot UDP port 2049 mount.nfs: trying 10.0.0.108 prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 48390 mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '10.0.0.108:/' failed: RPC Error: Success 8< The fileserver was upgraded to 12:04 LTS a couple of day back and appeared to go fine. Nothing much appeared to break. I'm rather guessing an nfs version mismatch or similar. I've been searching the web for solutions to that, but nothing yet has helped. Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 12:25, Gordon Scott wrote: On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 11:48 +, Alan Pope wrote: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ That installs nothing and suggests a couple of three that could be removed. Ok, that's good. I would backup and remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and let X figure out your screen setup automagically, then perhaps use nvidia-settings to fiddle about with the layout. Hm, I didn't know one could do that. It's made no difference, though :-( Can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere like http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ? There's a handy package called "pastebinit" which can help:- sudo apt-get install pastebinit pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log Also see if you have the relavent nvidia packages installed:- dpkg -l nvidia* | pastebinit Then let us have the links so we can see the output please. BTW, I've just felt obliged to get Windows-8 and my criticisms of Unity usability are as nothing compared to Win-8. That's absolutely appalling! Not used it myself, but I hear conflicting reports on it. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 16:12 +, Alan Pope wrote: > There's a handy package called "pastebinit" which can help:- Hm, yes. Neat. > Then let us have the links so we can see the output please. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640512/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640513/ Xlog then dpkg. The dpkg data looks rather sparse. Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 16:24, Gordon Scott wrote: Then let us have the links so we can see the output please. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640512/ Ah my bad. When you said "proprietary driver" I daftly assumed nvidia, not ATI. Seems you have an ATI card. I don't know a lot about ATI cards but lets see what we can do. Which video card do you have? Can you:- lspci -vn | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640513/ We can ignore that. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 16:29 +, Alan Pope wrote: > Ah my bad. When you said "proprietary driver" I daftly assumed nvidia, > not ATI. Seems you have an ATI card. I don't know a lot about ATI cards > but lets see what we can do. Hm, well, actually I _thought_ I had an Nvidia card, which is partly why I didn't query your request. Looking through a ventilator I can, though, see what looks like it's probably the ATI logo. ATI usually work out of the box :-/ I guess the Nvidia was on some other PC. > Which video card do you have? Can you:- > > lspci -vn | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640513/ I guess the files on paste... expire after some time and get purged? -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 16:58, Gordon Scott wrote: Which video card do you have? Can you:- lspci -vn | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640513/ That's your dpkg from earlier.. I guess the files on paste... expire after some time and get purged? Or they get deleted en masse when the box breaks (as happened recently).. -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 18:32 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On 23/03/13 16:58, Gordon Scott wrote: > >> Which video card do you have? Can you:- > >> > >> lspci -vn | pastebinit > > > > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640513/ > > > > That's your dpkg from earlier.. > Sorry Alan. Try again. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5641056/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
