Re: [Hampshire] untended consequences of Nokia buyout

2013-09-07 Thread Tim B
QT was sold to Digia some time ago. See link below. 

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/australian-technology/nokia-sells-qt-to-digia/

Tim B. 

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From: Joseph Bennie  
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hi all 

while dabbling this morning with some app prototyping I opened the QT Studio 
tools and the following thought ran through my head 

"Nokia owns QT -> microsoft just bought Nokia and most of their patents -> OK 
its Dual licence but its not going to stop MS Legal thinking they can throw 
stones at us … and actually QT is used a lot!, a lot of industrial apps and OS 
apps are built on it, and this is classic ARM territory -> MS want to rule that 
space like they prev ruled desktops -> I foresee the next battle ground" 

Am I thinking about this too hard or will this acquisitions be of significant 
and detrimental consequence for QT derived works. 

Should any of the FSF groups etc be raising potential concerns to respective 
competition authorities that highlight that QT related patents could be used to 
restrict the development models used for the linux desktop [ and by extension 
any graphics based ecosystem*]  (fyi my concern is that the designs for api and 
signalling will be more impactful than the actual visual widgets, as some of 
those designs are likely also present in Gnome etc) 

Welcome any thought.. especially from people more knowledgable about QT. 

* = the memo team, if i recall was a strong contributor to some of the directfb 
work which is an important alternative to  the X subsystems for draw rendering… 
mostly used for i.e. mobiles and tablets. 

Jay


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Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] untended consequences of Nokia buyout

2013-09-07 Thread Joseph Bennie
Thanks guys 

The about & Licence page on the IDE hasn't been updated, but having followed 
the nokia links they redirect to Digia.  Full details are on the about-us page. 


On 7 Sep 2013, at 08:44, "Jon Fautley"  wrote:

> On 7 Sep 2013, at 7:17, Joseph Bennie wrote:
> 
>> "Nokia owns QT -> microsoft just bought Nokia and most of their patents -> 
>> OK its Dual licence but its not going to stop MS Legal thinking they can 
>> throw stones at us … and actually QT is used a lot!, a lot of industrial 
>> apps and OS apps are built on it, and this is classic ARM territory -> MS 
>> want to rule that space like they prev ruled desktops -> I foresee the next 
>> battle ground"
> 
> Nokia doesn't own Qt, it sold it to Digia in March 2011.
> 
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Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] untended consequences of Nokia buyout

2013-09-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 7 September 2013 10:11, Joseph Bennie  wrote:
> The about & Licence page on the IDE hasn't been updated, but having followed 
> the nokia links they redirect to Digia.  Full details are on the about-us 
> page.
>

Odd. Which IDE on what distro is that?

It's updated here in qtcreator.

http://popey.com/~alan/qtc_about.png

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] untended consequences of Nokia buyout

2013-09-07 Thread Joseph Bennie


On 7 Sep 2013, at 11:39, Alan Pope  wrote:

> On 7 September 2013 10:11, Joseph Bennie  wrote:
>> The about & Licence page on the IDE hasn't been updated, but having followed 
>> the nokia links they redirect to Digia.  Full details are on the about-us 
>> page.
>> 
> 
> Odd. Which IDE on what distro is that?
> 

Distro = Debian 7  (iso 7.0.1, but app installed today via gnome package 
manager)   
App = Monkey Studio IDE(top search for QT4 Integrated Development 
Environment)  
package name = monkey studio-1.9.0.2-2 (32 bit) 
License = unknown in repo …. -> app implies LGPL 2.1 + 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pku6te151r9htft/QTLicense.png


> It's updated here in qtcreator.
> 
> http://popey.com/~alan/qtc_about.png
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] untended consequences of Nokia buyout

2013-09-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 7 September 2013 12:58, Joseph Bennie  wrote:
> Distro = Debian 7  (iso 7.0.1, but app installed today via gnome package 
> manager)
> App = Monkey Studio IDE(top search for QT4 Integrated Development 
> Environment)
> package name = monkey studio-1.9.0.2-2 (32 bit)
> License = unknown in repo …. -> app implies LGPL 2.1 +
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pku6te151r9htft/QTLicense.png

Ah qt4. Retro! :D

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