Re: [Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks

2009-03-19 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
2009/3/18 Lisi :
> What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of two pairs of sticks
> given that they both cost the same?
> Basically, why one might prefer:
> CT2KIT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 •
> 1.8V • 128Meg x 64
> to:
> CT2KIT12864AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 •
> 1.8V • 128Meg x 64
> or vice versa.
>

If this is to add to a system that already had memory, I would advise
picking the one that most closely matched the memory already present.
There should be a way to tell if the current memory in PC2-5300 or
PC2-6400.
This is because some motherboards cannot handle different speeds of
memory at once.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks

2009-03-19 Thread Victor Churchill
2009/3/18 Hugo Mills :
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:04:53PM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote:
>> > Basically, why one might prefer:
>> > CT2KIT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 •
>> > 1.8V • 128Meg x 64
>> > to:
>> > CT2KIT12864AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 •
>> > 1.8V • 128Meg x 64

>> Second one is a tad faster, not that you are likely to notice any
>> difference at all.
>
>   Higher bandwidth, but the same latency -- it takes one more clock
> cycle to find a page on the higher-rated unit, although it works out
> as pretty much exactly the same wall-clock time (7.5ns), because the
> clock rate is faster.
>
>   Hugo.

 where the 7.5 ns is got from :
the 6 (in CL=6)
times 1.25 ns, and
1.25 * 10^-9 is 1 second
divided by the 800 (from the DDR-800 and also the AA800 phrase).

So for the other stick, latency is
10^9 / 667 = 1.5 MHz, times 5 cycles,
also = 7.5 ns.

And higher bandwidth because once the pipelines are primed the 800MHz
chip pumps the data through at a higher rate.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks

2009-03-19 Thread Samuel Penn
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 23:08:30 Alan Bell wrote:
> this bit is the speed rating:
> PC2-6400
> PC2-5300
> and the 6400 one is faster. If your computer doesn't support PC2-6400 it
> should just operate at 5300 speeds. In fact the 800 and  the 667 is the
> speed in Mhz I think.

Not always true however. I had an issue recently with an old server
which could handle 2 DIMMS of faster memory fine, but couldn't cope
with 4 of the same.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks

2009-03-18 Thread Hugo Mills
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:04:53PM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 20:42:03 + (+), Lisi wrote:
> > What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of two pairs of sticks 
> > given that they both cost the same? 
> > Basically, why one might prefer:
> > CT2KIT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 
> > 1.8V • 128Meg x 64  
> > to:
> > CT2KIT12864AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 
> > 1.8V • 128Meg x 64
> > or vice versa.
> 
> Second one is a tad faster, not that you are likely to notice any
> difference at all. 

   Higher bandwidth, but the same latency -- it takes one more clock
cycle to find a page on the higher-rated unit, although it works out
as pretty much exactly the same wall-clock time (7.5ns), because the
clock rate is faster.

   Hugo.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Bell
this bit is the speed rating:
PC2-6400
PC2-5300
and the 6400 one is faster. If your computer doesn't support PC2-6400 it should 
just operate at 5300 speeds. In fact the 800 and  the 667 is the speed in Mhz I 
think.

Alan.


Lisi wrote:
> What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of two pairs of sticks 
> given that they both cost the same? 
> Basically, why one might prefer:
> CT2KIT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 
> 1.8V • 128Meg x 64  
> to:
> CT2KIT12864AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 
> 1.8V • 128Meg x 64
> or vice versa.
>
> http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=K8M890M2MB-RS2H&pl=FOXCONN&cat=RAM
> (the first two pairs of sticks)
> The processor is an AMD Athlon 64 3500+.
>
> TIA
> Lisi
>
>   


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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks

2009-03-18 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 20:42:03 + (+), Lisi wrote:
> What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of two pairs of sticks 
> given that they both cost the same? 
> Basically, why one might prefer:
> CT2KIT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 
> 1.8V • 128Meg x 64  
> to:
> CT2KIT12864AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 
> 1.8V • 128Meg x 64
> or vice versa.

Second one is a tad faster, not that you are likely to notice any
difference at all. 

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[Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks

2009-03-18 Thread Lisi
What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of two pairs of sticks 
given that they both cost the same? 
Basically, why one might prefer:
CT2KIT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 
1.8V • 128Meg x 64  
to:
CT2KIT12864AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 
1.8V • 128Meg x 64
or vice versa.

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=K8M890M2MB-RS2H&pl=FOXCONN&cat=RAM
(the first two pairs of sticks)
The processor is an AMD Athlon 64 3500+.

TIA
Lisi

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