Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
I wonder if people realise what advertised Fibre really is a lot of the time. correct me if I'm wrong but as I understand it, a good percentage of the time the Fibre is only from the cabinet in the street: Virgin's service is fibre based to cabinets, as long as you are a cable customer, they use DOCSIS for both Broadband and TV services which is a copper cable from home to the cabinet and then a fibre backbone. If you all not a cable customer then you will on Virgins LLU package. **The 40Mb BT infinity is based on a similar solution although not DOCSIS, however it is still a copper cable going from home to cabinet - fibre-to-the-cabinet (FFTC). However around 25% of BT's network will be able to get 100MB connection which is fibre-to-the-home (FTTH). I remember reading somewhere that BT will offer a minimum download speed 15Mb on the 40Mb package, whereas Virgin's customers got an average of around 47.5Mb when on the 50Mb package. Rgds Peter. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
On Tue, Jan 11 at 08:55, Robin Wilson wrote: ... I guess the key criteria for me are unlimited downloads and fairly good speed. Any recommendations? I'm suprised no ones mentioned Andrews Arnold[1] yet. Definitely geeky/technical/professional. IPv6, multiple line etc. Out of hours support response on IRC is excellent, not had a reason to phone them in years. Not cable that I'm aware of, BT and Be ADSL reseller as well as various fiber/ SDSL options for business. Not unlimited download but off peak download is worked out in units of 50G per month, with good carry over etc. 3 quid or thereabouts gets you another 50G. [1] http://www.aaisp.net.uk/ -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
Can't resist this... http://xkcd.com/806/ ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
Hi, Thanks for all of the suggestions. I was most impressed by BE, but have contacted them and found that they haven't yet upgraded the Bassett exchange in Southampton, so they can't provide us with broadband :-( Very disappointing. I was particularly attracted to BE because they had completely unlimited services, whereas the others (Andrews and Arnold and LDNet) appear to have download/upload limits. Andrews and Arnold seem better on this front (their off-peak services are from 6pm and include weekends, whereas peak for LDNet counts as 9am to midnight!). Any other particular suggestions? Doesn't necessarily have to be a hugely geeky supplier, but just one that is reliable, and preferably unlimited downloads. Cheers, Robin On 12 Jan 2011, at 09:00, Bob Dunlop wrote: On Tue, Jan 11 at 08:55, Robin Wilson wrote: ... I guess the key criteria for me are unlimited downloads and fairly good speed. Any recommendations? I'm suprised no ones mentioned Andrews Arnold[1] yet. Definitely geeky/technical/professional. IPv6, multiple line etc. Out of hours support response on IRC is excellent, not had a reason to phone them in years. Not cable that I'm aware of, BT and Be ADSL reseller as well as various fiber/ SDSL options for business. Not unlimited download but off peak download is worked out in units of 50G per month, with good carry over etc. 3 quid or thereabouts gets you another 50G. [1] http://www.aaisp.net.uk/ -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
On 12/01/11 18:19, Robin Wilson wrote: Any other particular suggestions? Doesn't necessarily have to be a hugely geeky supplier, but just one that is reliable, and preferably unlimited downloads. Dare I mention Sky? Aside from their boss being dead shady they have actually proved to be cheap and reliable, an unusual combination. Their technical staff aren't all that technical, but that's only an issue if the service is continually falling over, which in my experience it isn't. I believe you need to be a Sky customer to take advantage of the broadband service. Similarly I have heard good things about O2's service, although i don't know off-hand about any limits they might impose. Sky do offer an unlimited option. Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:39:42 + Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wednesday 12 January 2011 18:19:11 Robin Wilson wrote: Any other particular suggestions? Doesn't necessarily have to be a hugely geeky supplier, but just one that is reliable, and preferably unlimited downloads. I have been with Zen since our exchange was first enabled. They have been great. Very reliable, and my connection syncs at 8128 up on an up to 8 Meg line. And they think that running Linux is a reasonable thing to do! There is a download limit (no upload limit), currently I think 25GB. But it is possible to buy extra for what is generally a reasonable price. They also do not let you go over by mistake. You get 3 warnings at various points, including 90%, and if you have not bought any extra they just park you. If you then do want to go over you can buy extra bandwidth at that point, and they will unpark you. Extra bandwidth can be carried over, the monthly allowance cannot. I agree with Lisi, I too have had a happy experience since moving to Zen. I have only once gone over the download limit, paid for some extra and still have most of that 'extra' still available if I need it. I have even transferred to Zen as registrar for my startx domain and found them very helpful in getting the transfer organised. -- John Lewis using Debian sid -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
Robin Wilson wrote: Hi, Thanks for all of the suggestions. I was most impressed by BE, but have contacted them and found that they haven't yet upgraded the Bassett exchange in Southampton, so they can't provide us with broadband :-( Very disappointing. I was particularly attracted to BE because they had completely unlimited services, whereas the others (Andrews and Arnold and LDNet) appear to have download/upload limits. Andrews and Arnold seem better on this front (their off-peak services are from 6pm and include weekends, whereas peak for LDNet counts as 9am to midnight!). Any other particular suggestions? Doesn't necessarily have to be a hugely geeky supplier, but just one that is reliable, and preferably unlimited downloads. Cheers, Robin This site is pretty good at telling you what services are available at your location http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search Russell -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
On 12/01/11 22:55, Lisi wrote: A choice of ADSL or cable. A choice! WOW! Have O2 and BE only got LLU services? No ADSL? LLU *is* ADSL as far as I know, since it's copper-based phone lines. Cable is based on completely different technology, even though it's also copper-based in terms of the physical cabling. -- Regards, Jan Henkins -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
Hi all, I will be moving to a new flat in Southampton fairly soon and will need to set up broadband. Does anyone have any particular recommendations for good broadband providers? Compatability with Linux is obviously not a problem, as any broadband provided by a router should be fine, but I wondered if anyone had any suggestions for sensible providers. As a geek I'd love it if I could call their tech support line and get through to someone who actually understood what I was saying about IP addresses, ports etc. I guess the key criteria for me are unlimited downloads and fairly good speed. Any recommendations? Cheers, Robin -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
On Tuesday 11 January 2011 08:55:26 Robin Wilson wrote: anyone had any suggestions for sensible providers. As a geek I'd love it if I could call their tech support line and get through to someone who actually understood what I was saying about IP addresses, ports etc. I guess the key criteria for me are unlimited downloads and fairly good speed. Any recommendations? I'm with BEthere. Their tech support is the best of any I've ever come across (even helping with routers that weren't on their support list). TS is based in Bulgaria, but the techs speak pretty good english, so you rarely have language problems. The supply ADSL over BT's network, so you won't get cable speeds, but depending on where you are you should still get reasonable speeds. However, you can get a static IP, and the service is extremely stable. Yes, this is a shameless recommendation, but it's been my experience for 18 months now. Cheers, Tim B. -- OpenPilot - Open-source Marine Chart Plotter Lead Developer http://openpilot.sourceforge.net -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
Hi, Idnet.net get my vote. They are superb. When you call customer service you get a real engineer every time. Everything is up front with them and the minimum contract term is 1 month Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org Sender: hampshire-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:06:13 To: Hampshire LUG Discussion Listhampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Reply-To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider On Tuesday 11 January 2011 08:55:26 Robin Wilson wrote: anyone had any suggestions for sensible providers. As a geek I'd love it if I could call their tech support line and get through to someone who actually understood what I was saying about IP addresses, ports etc. I guess the key criteria for me are unlimited downloads and fairly good speed. Any recommendations? I'm with BEthere. Their tech support is the best of any I've ever come across (even helping with routers that weren't on their support list). TS is based in Bulgaria, but the techs speak pretty good english, so you rarely have language problems. The supply ADSL over BT's network, so you won't get cable speeds, but depending on where you are you should still get reasonable speeds. However, you can get a static IP, and the service is extremely stable. Yes, this is a shameless recommendation, but it's been my experience for 18 months now. Cheers, Tim B. -- OpenPilot - Open-source Marine Chart Plotter Lead Developer http://openpilot.sourceforge.net -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
