Re: [Hampshire] C development

2014-06-26 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 26 June 2014 08:22, Damian L Brasher  wrote:

> Roger, James, do either of you use Doxygen, or similar? Can you
> recommend an efficient way to use such a tool?
>
> I want to maintain some documentation; graphical visualisation to
> present the C code base structure and runtime flow.
>
> Thank you
> Damian
>

Damian,

I have not used such a tool. Doxygen is useful to document each
function, but relies on the developer to add it.
I don't think doxygen can present pretty graphs of C code base and runtime flow.
I am sure there must be some tools that work with CLANG/LLVM to do
what you want.
The runtime flow is probably called the "control flow graph" or CFG.
Also, tools that manipulate, graph the "Abstract Syntax Tree" or AST
might also help.
So, google for those terms and you should find something.

Kind Regards

James

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Re: [Hampshire] C development

2014-06-26 Thread Damian L Brasher
On Sun, 2014-06-22 at 16:04 +0100, Roger Munford wrote:
> On 13/06/14 08:34, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

> >> Then, if you wish to re-implement your program natively, then some
> >> things I would do:
> >> 1) You won't need assembler any more.
> >> 2) Separate out data collection and data visualization into two
> >> separate programs. Maybe use a database in between, or it the data
> >> rates are too high, use CSV files.
> >> 3) There are many data visualization programs already out there, you
> >> might not have to do any work in this area.
> >>
> > If you choose to use DOSBOX, http://www.dosbox.com
> > I have some patches that make it work better with data logging applications.
> > My patches make the timestamps use the linux system clock, instead of
> > DOS "ticks" which can be out by about 10 minutes each day.
> >
> > If you instead choose to re-write the application, you might wish to
> > consider displaying the output in a web browser, ie. write a web app,
> > or provide the output via the REST web services protocol.
> > You could then display the output on a smart phone, tablet or any
> > other web based device.
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > James
> >
> Thank you very much for the suggestions. Sadly I threw away the floppies 
> with the compiled version of the programme but kept the source so I 
> can't try it with DOSBOX. I very much like the idea of splitting the 
> data acquisition and displaying via a web browser for the reasons 
> outlined. I can imagine that something like sqlite would do for storing 
> the data because my sampling period will be a few seconds and it would 
> be easier to manipulate the data.
> I am also thinking of using Arduinos for remote data acquisition so that 
> would fit in nicely.
> 

Roger, James, do either of you use Doxygen, or similar? Can you
recommend an efficient way to use such a tool? 

I want to maintain some documentation; graphical visualisation to
present the C code base structure and runtime flow.

Thank you
Damian


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Re: [Hampshire] C development

2014-06-22 Thread Roger Munford


On 13/06/14 08:34, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

On 13 June 2014 06:55, James Courtier-Dutton  wrote:

On 12 June 2014 18:56, Roger Munford  wrote:

100 years ago I wrote a data logging programme for DOS which ran on a Sharp
pocket PC. It was written in C and assembler. I now have a need for this
programme and would like to revive it for use with the Raspberry Pi.

I haven't done anything like this for some time and would like some advice
on current techniques to get the job done as soon as possible.

The first thing is a suitable IDE. I have had some experience with Eclipse
but it may be a bit heavyweight for quick results. However if extra effort
pays off in the end it might be worth it.

I will also need a lightweight graphics library. The original plotted data
on the display which was done with functions like drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2) and
writechar(x,y,char) etc. That sort of level. Having said that, the Pi has a
lot more capability and I could use an existing display package.

The data came from various sources, some serial and some small devices which
were connected to the parallel port. The smallest timing period was 1 second
and I used the timer interrupt to initiate the read commands because there
was a lot of processing going on, updating the display and also the logger
had a modem attached so that data could be collected remotely. Is this the
way to go with linux or is there a better/easier technique.

Originally I just recorded the data sequentially in a file but I was
wondering if there was any advantage in using something like sqllite.

I would be grateful to hear for any advice.


Hi,

A quick solution would be to use DOSBOX.
It can be run on the raspberry pi and runs old DOS x86 programs
directly. It has good support for serial ports, not used the parallel
support, but it should be ok.

Then, if you wish to re-implement your program natively, then some
things I would do:
1) You won't need assembler any more.
2) Separate out data collection and data visualization into two
separate programs. Maybe use a database in between, or it the data
rates are too high, use CSV files.
3) There are many data visualization programs already out there, you
might not have to do any work in this area.


If you choose to use DOSBOX, http://www.dosbox.com
I have some patches that make it work better with data logging applications.
My patches make the timestamps use the linux system clock, instead of
DOS "ticks" which can be out by about 10 minutes each day.

If you instead choose to re-write the application, you might wish to
consider displaying the output in a web browser, ie. write a web app,
or provide the output via the REST web services protocol.
You could then display the output on a smart phone, tablet or any
other web based device.

Kind Regards

James

Thank you very much for the suggestions. Sadly I threw away the floppies 
with the compiled version of the programme but kept the source so I 
can't try it with DOSBOX. I very much like the idea of splitting the 
data acquisition and displaying via a web browser for the reasons 
outlined. I can imagine that something like sqlite would do for storing 
the data because my sampling period will be a few seconds and it would 
be easier to manipulate the data.
I am also thinking of using Arduinos for remote data acquisition so that 
would fit in nicely.


Thanks again

Roger


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Re: [Hampshire] C development

2014-06-13 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 13 June 2014 06:55, James Courtier-Dutton  wrote:
> On 12 June 2014 18:56, Roger Munford  wrote:
>> 100 years ago I wrote a data logging programme for DOS which ran on a Sharp
>> pocket PC. It was written in C and assembler. I now have a need for this
>> programme and would like to revive it for use with the Raspberry Pi.
>>
>> I haven't done anything like this for some time and would like some advice
>> on current techniques to get the job done as soon as possible.
>>
>> The first thing is a suitable IDE. I have had some experience with Eclipse
>> but it may be a bit heavyweight for quick results. However if extra effort
>> pays off in the end it might be worth it.
>>
>> I will also need a lightweight graphics library. The original plotted data
>> on the display which was done with functions like drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2) and
>> writechar(x,y,char) etc. That sort of level. Having said that, the Pi has a
>> lot more capability and I could use an existing display package.
>>
>> The data came from various sources, some serial and some small devices which
>> were connected to the parallel port. The smallest timing period was 1 second
>> and I used the timer interrupt to initiate the read commands because there
>> was a lot of processing going on, updating the display and also the logger
>> had a modem attached so that data could be collected remotely. Is this the
>> way to go with linux or is there a better/easier technique.
>>
>> Originally I just recorded the data sequentially in a file but I was
>> wondering if there was any advantage in using something like sqllite.
>>
>> I would be grateful to hear for any advice.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> A quick solution would be to use DOSBOX.
> It can be run on the raspberry pi and runs old DOS x86 programs
> directly. It has good support for serial ports, not used the parallel
> support, but it should be ok.
>
> Then, if you wish to re-implement your program natively, then some
> things I would do:
> 1) You won't need assembler any more.
> 2) Separate out data collection and data visualization into two
> separate programs. Maybe use a database in between, or it the data
> rates are too high, use CSV files.
> 3) There are many data visualization programs already out there, you
> might not have to do any work in this area.
>

If you choose to use DOSBOX, http://www.dosbox.com
I have some patches that make it work better with data logging applications.
My patches make the timestamps use the linux system clock, instead of
DOS "ticks" which can be out by about 10 minutes each day.

If you instead choose to re-write the application, you might wish to
consider displaying the output in a web browser, ie. write a web app,
or provide the output via the REST web services protocol.
You could then display the output on a smart phone, tablet or any
other web based device.

Kind Regards

James

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Re: [Hampshire] C development

2014-06-12 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 12 June 2014 18:56, Roger Munford  wrote:
> 100 years ago I wrote a data logging programme for DOS which ran on a Sharp
> pocket PC. It was written in C and assembler. I now have a need for this
> programme and would like to revive it for use with the Raspberry Pi.
>
> I haven't done anything like this for some time and would like some advice
> on current techniques to get the job done as soon as possible.
>
> The first thing is a suitable IDE. I have had some experience with Eclipse
> but it may be a bit heavyweight for quick results. However if extra effort
> pays off in the end it might be worth it.
>
> I will also need a lightweight graphics library. The original plotted data
> on the display which was done with functions like drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2) and
> writechar(x,y,char) etc. That sort of level. Having said that, the Pi has a
> lot more capability and I could use an existing display package.
>
> The data came from various sources, some serial and some small devices which
> were connected to the parallel port. The smallest timing period was 1 second
> and I used the timer interrupt to initiate the read commands because there
> was a lot of processing going on, updating the display and also the logger
> had a modem attached so that data could be collected remotely. Is this the
> way to go with linux or is there a better/easier technique.
>
> Originally I just recorded the data sequentially in a file but I was
> wondering if there was any advantage in using something like sqllite.
>
> I would be grateful to hear for any advice.
>

Hi,

A quick solution would be to use DOSBOX.
It can be run on the raspberry pi and runs old DOS x86 programs
directly. It has good support for serial ports, not used the parallel
support, but it should be ok.

Then, if you wish to re-implement your program natively, then some
things I would do:
1) You won't need assembler any more.
2) Separate out data collection and data visualization into two
separate programs. Maybe use a database in between, or it the data
rates are too high, use CSV files.
3) There are many data visualization programs already out there, you
might not have to do any work in this area.

Kind Regards

James

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Re: [Hampshire] C development

2014-06-12 Thread Tim B
I have used C++ and QT4 to good effect for this sort of task.

Tim B.

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 Original message 
From: Roger Munford  
Date:12/06/2014  18:56  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk 
Subject: [Hampshire] C development 

100 years ago I wrote a data logging programme for DOS which ran on a 
Sharp pocket PC. It was written in C and assembler. I now have a need 
for this programme and would like to revive it for use with the 
Raspberry Pi.

I haven't done anything like this for some time and would like some 
advice on current techniques to get the job done as soon as possible.

The first thing is a suitable IDE. I have had some experience with 
Eclipse but it may be a bit heavyweight for quick results. However if 
extra effort pays off in the end it might be worth it.

I will also need a lightweight graphics library. The original plotted 
data on the display which was done with functions like 
drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2) and writechar(x,y,char) etc. That sort of level. 
Having said that, the Pi has a lot more capability and I could use an 
existing display package.

The data came from various sources, some serial and some small devices 
which were connected to the parallel port. The smallest timing period 
was 1 second and I used the timer interrupt to initiate the read 
commands because there was a lot of processing going on, updating the 
display and also the logger had a modem attached so that data could be 
collected remotely. Is this the way to go with linux or is there a 
better/easier technique.

Originally I just recorded the data sequentially in a file but I was 
wondering if there was any advantage in using something like sqllite.

I would be grateful to hear for any advice.

Thanks

Roger


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[Hampshire] C development

2014-06-12 Thread Roger Munford
100 years ago I wrote a data logging programme for DOS which ran on a 
Sharp pocket PC. It was written in C and assembler. I now have a need 
for this programme and would like to revive it for use with the 
Raspberry Pi.


I haven't done anything like this for some time and would like some 
advice on current techniques to get the job done as soon as possible.


The first thing is a suitable IDE. I have had some experience with 
Eclipse but it may be a bit heavyweight for quick results. However if 
extra effort pays off in the end it might be worth it.


I will also need a lightweight graphics library. The original plotted 
data on the display which was done with functions like 
drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2) and writechar(x,y,char) etc. That sort of level. 
Having said that, the Pi has a lot more capability and I could use an 
existing display package.


The data came from various sources, some serial and some small devices 
which were connected to the parallel port. The smallest timing period 
was 1 second and I used the timer interrupt to initiate the read 
commands because there was a lot of processing going on, updating the 
display and also the logger had a modem attached so that data could be 
collected remotely. Is this the way to go with linux or is there a 
better/easier technique.


Originally I just recorded the data sequentially in a file but I was 
wondering if there was any advantage in using something like sqllite.


I would be grateful to hear for any advice.

Thanks

Roger


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