Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Alan Pope]

Hi Peter,

I was somewhat kidding :)

On 16/04/13 19:01, Peter B. wrote:

As I say -- it is not live yet.


Well, it is, given people can get to it. You might want to hide the site 
somehow until it's ready. Otherwise people might get a poor impression 
of it before it's ready. The site is already being spidered by search 
engines.



This is my first venture into the business world so I am noob but you
cannot purchase atm as no payment options have been implemented as just
getting bank and paypal to talk. =o( pain in the rectum! especially with
these hosts I have - slowest email service in the world.


The site is indeed incredibly slow.

Good luck!

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Tony Whitmore]

On 16/04/13 18:14, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 16/04/13 16:40, Peter B. wrote:
>> Have just started a Web site at gadget branch.Com will b going live soon.
> 
> Can I please pre-order 100 of the following item at the advertised price
> of £0.00. :)
> 
> http://gadgetbranch.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=60

Sure, you can order them by logging in to the site using the form served
and sumbitted over HTTPS. Oh, wait...

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Peter B.]

As I say -- it is not live yet.
This is my first venture into the business world so I am noob but you
cannot purchase atm as no payment options have been implemented as just
getting bank and paypal to talk. =o( pain in the rectum! especially with
these hosts I have - slowest email service in the world.
You can order 100 of them but prices will b updated as they have just
dropped a few quid with the dual cores out and quad cores on the way in the
next month or two.
would love to give them for 0 but would not b in business for very long
If anyone wants any - let me know and will get a price for you


On 16 April 2013 18:14, Alan Pope  wrote:

> On 16/04/13 16:40, Peter B. wrote:
>
>> Have just started a Web site at gadget branch.Com will b going live soon.
>>
>
> Can I please pre-order 100 of the following item at the advertised price
> of £0.00. :)
>
> http://gadgetbranch.co.uk/**index.php?route=product/**
> product&product_id=60
>
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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Alan Pope]

On 16/04/13 16:40, Peter B. wrote:

Have just started a Web site at gadget branch.Com will b going live soon.


Can I please pre-order 100 of the following item at the advertised price 
of £0.00. :)


http://gadgetbranch.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=60

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Peter B.]

Hi
Have just started a Web site at gadget branch.Com will b going live soon.
Selling tablets and loads of other gadgets.  Affordable prices.
I would recommend them 7 inch or 9 for children and the 13'3 for the
daddy.  It is a beautiful tablet.  :-D
Good luck in choosing
If you like anything let me know and will make them available before going
live if you message me personally.
Pete
On 16 Apr 2013 16:04, "Zan"  wrote:

> On 27 March 2013 17:58, Imran Chaudhry  wrote:
> > There's a number of "geek dads" among us so does anyone have
> > recommendations for an Android tablet for kids?
> >
>
> There are geek mums on the list too!
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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Zan]

On 27 March 2013 17:58, Imran Chaudhry  wrote:
> There's a number of "geek dads" among us so does anyone have
> recommendations for an Android tablet for kids?
>

There are geek mums on the list too!

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[pavithran]

On 28 March 2013 04:39, Alan Pope  wrote:
> I've logged in as them on it and see a
> plethora of additional crappy apps which were 'recommended' by the apps they
> already had. There are some awful adverts too which are made to look like
> Facebook like pages or system dialogs. It's like browsing Geocities in
> Internet Explorer with no advert blocking from 10 years ago.

Very nicely put . I felt the same way and I heard some ad blocking
softwares were not allowed . Anyways its a walled garden . Looking
forward to Firefox OS , Sailfish and Ubuntu OS :)

Regards,
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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Imran Chaudhry]

Superb reply. Many thanks for that Popey - and others.

Sadly iPad is out the budget. I considered an iPod Touch 4th Gen
(used, ~£99 with warranty) but the small screen put us off.

Know what you mean about the lack of Android support - I wanted an
earphone+mic for my Android phone recently and noticed there was
probably 80%/20% split in the supermarket for iPhone/Pod/Pad devices
versus Android. Erm, don't we hear that Android is outselling iPhone?

Yeah, lack of hardware keys and volume has been highlighted in these
things. In the end though I plumped for the Nabi 2. It's approx the
same power as the Nexus 7 and the build quality seems good. I figured
that as time goes on I can root it and turn it into a more
sophisticated device.

Thanks again for the input!


On 27 March 2013 23:09, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 27/03/13 17:58, Imran Chaudhry wrote:
>>
>> There's a number of "geek dads" among us so does anyone have
>> recommendations for an Android tablet for kids?
>>
>
> Based on my own experience I would not recommend any Android tablets for
> kids^Wanyone. That said I have a Nexus 7 which has multiple user profiles
> and is thus used by all four of us. Clare uses it now and then (if it's
> within reach and no other computers are) for email, Facebook & web. I use it
> now and then for Netflix, web, email and the odd game.
>
> The kids use it for playing games, my eldest also uses it for emailing
> friends and browsing Amazon.
>
>
>> I have heard the cheaper tablets have oddities such as wifi being
>> impaired by a metal back cover.
>>
>
> Quality is a concern. Some of the cheapo ones are real stinkers in terms of
> reliability, build, battery life, touch sensitivity and software upgrades.
>
> One Android specific frustration my kids (and I) have had is the soft
> buttons. It's incredibly easy to accidentally close an app, switch apps,
> back out of an app or bring up Google Now when you're in the middle of an
> intense game of some kind. This is especially apparent with young kids who
> haven't mastered finger control as much, but I've done it too mid game and
> it made me want to bury the tablet in the garden, dig it up, shoot it, burn
> it, chop it up and burn it again.
>
>
>> I was going to go for a 2nd hand Nubi 2 [0] which although
>> Android-based has a "walled garden" of apps to filter out the bad
>> stuff.
>
>
> You can achieve a similar thing by installing apps for them and not giving
> them access to the play store at all. Or, you know, buy an iPad.
>
>
>> I am also considering a Nexus 7 which with protective covers
>> can be made more kid-friendly, my concern though is that Play store is
>> more "wild" making it easier for the little 'uns to make in-app
>> purchases and be exposed to dodgy ads.
>>
>
> They can't do in app "purchases" if you don't put a credit card on their
> account, or give them credit in Google Play vouchers. They can of course
> install free stuff which may bombard them with adverts if you link a Google
> account to their Nexus 7 login (which you have to if you want them to have
> any apps at all).
>
> Having watched my two (aged 6 and 9) use the Nexus 7 I've been pretty
> appalled at nagging popups that many apps in the Google Play store use to
> get you to install other stuff. I've logged in as them on it and see a
> plethora of additional crappy apps which were 'recommended' by the apps they
> already had. There are some awful adverts too which are made to look like
> Facebook like pages or system dialogs. It's like browsing Geocities in
> Internet Explorer with no advert blocking from 10 years ago.
>
> Conversely I also have an iPhone and an iPad and have _no_ problem with them
> play with those whatsoever as they just don't have the same kind of nagging
> crappy apps, or if they do, we haven't found them. They also don't have the
> accidental swipe issues that Android has.
>
> There are also minimal accessories for Android tablets, even the officially
> blessed by Google "Nexus" branded ones. It's 5 months since the Nexus 10
> came out and there's still no official cover for it. I visited a phone shop
> last week and the Nexus 4 had exactly one cover. There's more choice for the
> Nexus 7, and I've got the official rubbery Asus one which is okay, but
> nowhere near as nice as the original iPad cover from ~4 years ago but cost
> the same!
>
> Get an iPad :)
>
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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Peter Collins]

On 27/03/13 23:09, Alan Pope wrote:
> Get an iPad :)

+1

I have a "work" iPad which is used by everyone at home which lead us to
buying our kids (7 & 8) iPods for birthdays which are fairly cheap these
days. In app purchases are turned off and we (the parents) sign out of
app store each time a purchase or update is made.

The kids don't have access to install anything or spend anything.

Also Youtube app can be disabled easily which I would recommend for any
child.

Rgds

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Alan Pope]

On 27/03/13 17:58, Imran Chaudhry wrote:

There's a number of "geek dads" among us so does anyone have
recommendations for an Android tablet for kids?



Based on my own experience I would not recommend any Android tablets for 
kids^Wanyone. That said I have a Nexus 7 which has multiple user 
profiles and is thus used by all four of us. Clare uses it now and then 
(if it's within reach and no other computers are) for email, Facebook & 
web. I use it now and then for Netflix, web, email and the odd game.


The kids use it for playing games, my eldest also uses it for emailing 
friends and browsing Amazon.



I have heard the cheaper tablets have oddities such as wifi being
impaired by a metal back cover.



Quality is a concern. Some of the cheapo ones are real stinkers in terms 
of reliability, build, battery life, touch sensitivity and software 
upgrades.


One Android specific frustration my kids (and I) have had is the soft 
buttons. It's incredibly easy to accidentally close an app, switch apps, 
back out of an app or bring up Google Now when you're in the middle of 
an intense game of some kind. This is especially apparent with young 
kids who haven't mastered finger control as much, but I've done it too 
mid game and it made me want to bury the tablet in the garden, dig it 
up, shoot it, burn it, chop it up and burn it again.



I was going to go for a 2nd hand Nubi 2 [0] which although
Android-based has a "walled garden" of apps to filter out the bad
stuff.


You can achieve a similar thing by installing apps for them and not 
giving them access to the play store at all. Or, you know, buy an iPad.



I am also considering a Nexus 7 which with protective covers
can be made more kid-friendly, my concern though is that Play store is
more "wild" making it easier for the little 'uns to make in-app
purchases and be exposed to dodgy ads.



They can't do in app "purchases" if you don't put a credit card on their 
account, or give them credit in Google Play vouchers. They can of course 
install free stuff which may bombard them with adverts if you link a 
Google account to their Nexus 7 login (which you have to if you want 
them to have any apps at all).


Having watched my two (aged 6 and 9) use the Nexus 7 I've been pretty 
appalled at nagging popups that many apps in the Google Play store use 
to get you to install other stuff. I've logged in as them on it and see 
a plethora of additional crappy apps which were 'recommended' by the 
apps they already had. There are some awful adverts too which are made 
to look like Facebook like pages or system dialogs. It's like browsing 
Geocities in Internet Explorer with no advert blocking from 10 years ago.


Conversely I also have an iPhone and an iPad and have _no_ problem with 
them play with those whatsoever as they just don't have the same kind of 
nagging crappy apps, or if they do, we haven't found them. They also 
don't have the accidental swipe issues that Android has.


There are also minimal accessories for Android tablets, even the 
officially blessed by Google "Nexus" branded ones. It's 5 months since 
the Nexus 10 came out and there's still no official cover for it. I 
visited a phone shop last week and the Nexus 4 had exactly one cover. 
There's more choice for the Nexus 7, and I've got the official rubbery 
Asus one which is okay, but nowhere near as nice as the original iPad 
cover from ~4 years ago but cost the same!


Get an iPad :)

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?

[Samuel Penn]

On Wednesday 27 Mar 2013 17:58:25 Imran Chaudhry wrote:
> There's a number of "geek dads" among us so does anyone have
> recommendations for an Android tablet for kids?

My nephews have a Nexus 7, which they seem to be getting on with
fine. They are both below the required age for Google's TOS, but
that's easy to work around (just unfortunate that you have to).

With Google Gift Certificates now available in the UK, they don't
need to have a credit card either to make purchases.

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