Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Dwerryhouse

On 02/25/2012 07:45 PM, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote:

On Wednesday 22 Feb 2012, Daniel Llewellyn wrote:

I figure I'll be the first to mention it:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chrome-only-future-for-Flash-on-Linu
x-1440104.html

What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to
Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing?

My annoyance here is the same as my annoyance with Silverlight - video
sites (netflix et al) are finding more and more ways to prevent access
from our favourite OS because of the Movie/TV studio requirement for
DRM on all streams. With flash leaving the playing field, we're losing
the last remaining compatible solution that the studios may have
agreed to a video site using.

I'm not worried at the moment.

1) Adobe said they will support Flash for 5 years, which I don't believe but
two years is probably more reaslistic and better than nothing.

2) Flash is on it's way out, so by the time they drop support for Flash off
Mozilla it won't matter.

3) There is plenty of time for Mozilla to pick up support for the new Google
style plug-in if it's usful for them to do.

It's one reason to avoind proprietary stuff where you have no control if they
suddenly decide (for what ever reason) to pull the plug.


The most common speculation around  is that Flash will be replaced by
HTML 5.  The lack of Flash on iOS seems to have given this a push. There
is therefore an argument going on about DRM on HTML 5 embedded
video. Google, Microsoft and Netflix have put forward a proposal for
this which some bloke from W3C hates. I don't have a link for this
to hand at present.

HTML5 video already works on Linux in Firefox and Chrome - I
occasionally get this from YouTube - I notice because FlashBlock doesn't
kick in, and it just plays the video. What HTML 5 DRM will do is probably:
annoy lots of people
fail to protect their content
fail to work in all browsers
produce several Firefox plug-ins to rip it

MikeD

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Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash

2012-02-25 Thread Dr A. J. Trickett
On Wednesday 22 Feb 2012, Daniel Llewellyn wrote:
 I figure I'll be the first to mention it:
 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chrome-only-future-for-Flash-on-Linu
 x-1440104.html
 
 What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to
 Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing?
 
 My annoyance here is the same as my annoyance with Silverlight - video
 sites (netflix et al) are finding more and more ways to prevent access
 from our favourite OS because of the Movie/TV studio requirement for
 DRM on all streams. With flash leaving the playing field, we're losing
 the last remaining compatible solution that the studios may have
 agreed to a video site using.

I'm not worried at the moment.

1) Adobe said they will support Flash for 5 years, which I don't believe but 
two years is probably more reaslistic and better than nothing.

2) Flash is on it's way out, so by the time they drop support for Flash off 
Mozilla it won't matter.

3) There is plenty of time for Mozilla to pick up support for the new Google 
style plug-in if it's usful for them to do.

It's one reason to avoind proprietary stuff where you have no control if they 
suddenly decide (for what ever reason) to pull the plug.

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Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash

2012-02-22 Thread hantslug
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 14:28:08 Daniel Llewellyn wrote:
 What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to
 Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing?

I shan't convert.  I don't much like Chrome.  But I shall probably run it for 
news items etc. :-(  That is, if I can.  I am still running Lenny - it's a 
long story - and Google, bless it, has disabled the copy of Chrome I already 
had on the grounds that it is too old, and will not allow me to install 
anything on Lenny (too old).

What about Chromium?

Lisi

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