Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash
On 02/25/2012 07:45 PM, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: On Wednesday 22 Feb 2012, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: I figure I'll be the first to mention it: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chrome-only-future-for-Flash-on-Linu x-1440104.html What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing? My annoyance here is the same as my annoyance with Silverlight - video sites (netflix et al) are finding more and more ways to prevent access from our favourite OS because of the Movie/TV studio requirement for DRM on all streams. With flash leaving the playing field, we're losing the last remaining compatible solution that the studios may have agreed to a video site using. I'm not worried at the moment. 1) Adobe said they will support Flash for 5 years, which I don't believe but two years is probably more reaslistic and better than nothing. 2) Flash is on it's way out, so by the time they drop support for Flash off Mozilla it won't matter. 3) There is plenty of time for Mozilla to pick up support for the new Google style plug-in if it's usful for them to do. It's one reason to avoind proprietary stuff where you have no control if they suddenly decide (for what ever reason) to pull the plug. The most common speculation around is that Flash will be replaced by HTML 5. The lack of Flash on iOS seems to have given this a push. There is therefore an argument going on about DRM on HTML 5 embedded video. Google, Microsoft and Netflix have put forward a proposal for this which some bloke from W3C hates. I don't have a link for this to hand at present. HTML5 video already works on Linux in Firefox and Chrome - I occasionally get this from YouTube - I notice because FlashBlock doesn't kick in, and it just plays the video. What HTML 5 DRM will do is probably: annoy lots of people fail to protect their content fail to work in all browsers produce several Firefox plug-ins to rip it MikeD -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash
On Wednesday 22 Feb 2012, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: I figure I'll be the first to mention it: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chrome-only-future-for-Flash-on-Linu x-1440104.html What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing? My annoyance here is the same as my annoyance with Silverlight - video sites (netflix et al) are finding more and more ways to prevent access from our favourite OS because of the Movie/TV studio requirement for DRM on all streams. With flash leaving the playing field, we're losing the last remaining compatible solution that the studios may have agreed to a video site using. I'm not worried at the moment. 1) Adobe said they will support Flash for 5 years, which I don't believe but two years is probably more reaslistic and better than nothing. 2) Flash is on it's way out, so by the time they drop support for Flash off Mozilla it won't matter. 3) There is plenty of time for Mozilla to pick up support for the new Google style plug-in if it's usful for them to do. It's one reason to avoind proprietary stuff where you have no control if they suddenly decide (for what ever reason) to pull the plug. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK The problem with cruel and unusual punishment is that you have to keep being creative. For example, some may call it cruel and unusual to turn a spammer into spam, but by the time you feed the hundredth into the woodchipper it's become quite usual. -- Anthony de Boer in the Monastery -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 14:28:08 Daniel Llewellyn wrote: What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing? I shan't convert. I don't much like Chrome. But I shall probably run it for news items etc. :-( That is, if I can. I am still running Lenny - it's a long story - and Google, bless it, has disabled the copy of Chrome I already had on the grounds that it is too old, and will not allow me to install anything on Lenny (too old). What about Chromium? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --