Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:35:41 +
Owain via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Owain,

>It's a shame this list is so much quieter than it used to be, but good 

It's an inevitable consequence of time passing;  There's far more info
available on the 'net now than ten or twenty years ago.  Far more people
connected, too.  Of course, some of that info may no longer be relevant.
Be that as it may, it is therefore, possible to get a fair amount of
advice by a simple search.  IOW, there's often no need to wait for an
answer - it's almost there waiting for you.

>advise is still on hand

I'm sure there will be.


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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Owain via Hampshire]

Thank you for all your printer advice.  It's really made an impression 
(geddit??)


It's a shame this list is so much quieter than it used to be, but good 
advise is still on hand


Owain


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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Dario Cavallaro via Hampshire]

We use a Brother DCP 1610W and couldn't be happier. Costs the double of 
the cheap ink all  in ones, but I haven't changed the toner in 2 years. 
If you don't need colour, I would highly suggest this one.


Dario

On 06/11/2019 17:40, Phillip Chandler via Hampshire wrote:
Epson stylus works great. Go to stinkyink.com and get non branded 
cheaper ink too


Phillip

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*From:* Hampshire  on behalf of 
Peter Salisbury via Hampshire 

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 5:30:51 PM
*To:* Hampshire LUG Discussion List 
*Cc:* Peter Salisbury 
*Subject:* Re: [Hampshire] Printers
We use an HP X576dw in the church office with a continuous ink system.
Not a cheap printer to buy (though bizarrely we had a buy one get one
free offer!) but virtually free to run on a CISS and, having a
stationery pagewide head, it prints as fast as it can feed the paper
through. Works over the LAN or USB and the built in scanner works with
Gimp, XSANE etc.
Best wishes, Peter

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 17:22, Brad Rogers via Hampshire
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:06:44 +
> Owain via Hampshire  wrote:
>
> Hello Owain,
>
> >I am so regretting accepting a free HP Officejet printer.  The software
> >works ok, but for me part of the open source ethic is being able to use
> >non OEM cartridges
>
> I use non-HP ink cartridges in my OfficeJet without issues.
>
> I know there was a time when HP silently blocked the possibility of 
using

> non-HP cartridges, but that decision was soon reversed after a *massive*
> outcry (no doubt followed by a downturn in sales) from pretty much all
> quarters.  All this was in late 2016, BTW.  Maybe a firmware update is
> in order.
>
> Despite the reversal, HP did not apologise for the block.  Nor did they
> say that they wouldn't do it again.  Therefore, once you've performed a
> firmware update (if applicable) I suggest you prevent your printer from
> auto-updating firmware in future.
>
> TBH, the whole debacle seriously knocked my confidence(1) in HP.  
When my

> current printer dies.  I may well buy from another supplier with better
> open-source credentials.
>
> (1)  Possibly too strong a word.  HP's Linux/open-source support is
> patchy, at best.
>
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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Phillip Chandler via Hampshire]

Epson stylus works great. Go to stinkyink.com and get non branded cheaper ink 
too

Phillip

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07464 367512


From: Hampshire  on behalf of Peter 
Salisbury via Hampshire 
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 5:30:51 PM
To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List 
Cc: Peter Salisbury 
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Printers

We use an HP X576dw in the church office with a continuous ink system.
Not a cheap printer to buy (though bizarrely we had a buy one get one
free offer!) but virtually free to run on a CISS and, having a
stationery pagewide head, it prints as fast as it can feed the paper
through. Works over the LAN or USB and the built in scanner works with
Gimp, XSANE etc.
Best wishes, Peter

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 17:22, Brad Rogers via Hampshire
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:06:44 +
> Owain via Hampshire  wrote:
>
> Hello Owain,
>
> >I am so regretting accepting a free HP Officejet printer.  The software
> >works ok, but for me part of the open source ethic is being able to use
> >non OEM cartridges
>
> I use non-HP ink cartridges in my OfficeJet without issues.
>
> I know there was a time when HP silently blocked the possibility of using
> non-HP cartridges, but that decision was soon reversed after a *massive*
> outcry (no doubt followed by a downturn in sales) from pretty much all
> quarters.  All this was in late 2016, BTW.  Maybe a firmware update is
> in order.
>
> Despite the reversal, HP did not apologise for the block.  Nor did they
> say that they wouldn't do it again.  Therefore, once you've performed a
> firmware update (if applicable) I suggest you prevent your printer from
> auto-updating firmware in future.
>
> TBH, the whole debacle seriously knocked my confidence(1) in HP.  When my
> current printer dies.  I may well buy from another supplier with better
> open-source credentials.
>
> (1)  Possibly too strong a word.  HP's Linux/open-source support is
> patchy, at best.
>
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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Peter Salisbury via Hampshire]

We use an HP X576dw in the church office with a continuous ink system.
Not a cheap printer to buy (though bizarrely we had a buy one get one
free offer!) but virtually free to run on a CISS and, having a
stationery pagewide head, it prints as fast as it can feed the paper
through. Works over the LAN or USB and the built in scanner works with
Gimp, XSANE etc.
Best wishes, Peter

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 17:22, Brad Rogers via Hampshire
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:06:44 +
> Owain via Hampshire  wrote:
>
> Hello Owain,
>
> >I am so regretting accepting a free HP Officejet printer.  The software
> >works ok, but for me part of the open source ethic is being able to use
> >non OEM cartridges
>
> I use non-HP ink cartridges in my OfficeJet without issues.
>
> I know there was a time when HP silently blocked the possibility of using
> non-HP cartridges, but that decision was soon reversed after a *massive*
> outcry (no doubt followed by a downturn in sales) from pretty much all
> quarters.  All this was in late 2016, BTW.  Maybe a firmware update is
> in order.
>
> Despite the reversal, HP did not apologise for the block.  Nor did they
> say that they wouldn't do it again.  Therefore, once you've performed a
> firmware update (if applicable) I suggest you prevent your printer from
> auto-updating firmware in future.
>
> TBH, the whole debacle seriously knocked my confidence(1) in HP.  When my
> current printer dies.  I may well buy from another supplier with better
> open-source credentials.
>
> (1)  Possibly too strong a word.  HP's Linux/open-source support is
> patchy, at best.
>
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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:06:44 +
Owain via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Owain,

>I am so regretting accepting a free HP Officejet printer.  The software 
>works ok, but for me part of the open source ethic is being able to use 
>non OEM cartridges 

I use non-HP ink cartridges in my OfficeJet without issues.

I know there was a time when HP silently blocked the possibility of using
non-HP cartridges, but that decision was soon reversed after a *massive*
outcry (no doubt followed by a downturn in sales) from pretty much all
quarters.  All this was in late 2016, BTW.  Maybe a firmware update is
in order.

Despite the reversal, HP did not apologise for the block.  Nor did they
say that they wouldn't do it again.  Therefore, once you've performed a
firmware update (if applicable) I suggest you prevent your printer from
auto-updating firmware in future.

TBH, the whole debacle seriously knocked my confidence(1) in HP.  When my
current printer dies.  I may well buy from another supplier with better
open-source credentials.

(1)  Possibly too strong a word.  HP's Linux/open-source support is
patchy, at best.

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Ian Park via Hampshire]

When we had grief with an HP OfficeJet 8100 printer throwing a wobbly 
with non OEM cartridges, we replaced it with a Canon TR8550 
multi-function printer - we're using cartridges from Ink Factory and the 
printer is happy with them. That works fine with both my Linux Mint 
desktop (and laptop) and my wife's Windows 10 desktop - it's connected 
over the wired network in our house.


BTW, I also have a Canon Pixma 7250 (inkjet printer only, USB & WiFi 
connections) going spare - a friend moved flats and decided she wanted 
to replace her desktop PC (running Linux Mint...) with a tablet, and 
despite nudging from me (I set the printer up so she could print from 
her tablet) she turned out the printer as well. If you're interested, 
contact me off list and we'll see if we can arrange a transfer. I live 
in Newbury.


Best wishes

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On 06/11/2019 16:06, Owain via Hampshire wrote:

Hi all.

I am so regretting accepting a free HP Officejet printer.  The 
software works ok, but for me part of the open source ethic is being 
able to use non OEM cartridges (I suppose that's my philosophical 
rationalisation of being an out-and-out cheapskate).


Does anyone have good recommendations of colour printers that are both 
cheap to run (up front price is less of an issue) and play nicely with 
Linux?


Thanks

Owain




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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Jim Kissel]

Samuel Penn wrote:

On Friday 16 July 2010 10:19:11 James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

Hi,

I have a requirement for a Laser Duplex printer with Ethernet network
 interface. The last time I brought a printer was about 10 years ago.
The previous one was a HP LaserJet 4L.

Does anyone have any recommendations?


I've got a Xerox Phaser 8560DN. It's both duplex and colour.
Takes a while to warm up, but quality is good (and it was the
cheapest colour duplex laser I could find when I got it a few
years ago, but if you just want B&W there will be cheaper
alternatives).

And yes, it does network (and works from CUPS).
I confirm all the the above re the 8560DN.  I does have one drawback 
that I haven't been able to find a solution to, that being, the colour 
is very muddy.  Shifted towards the inside of the colour cube.  I can't 
get bright reds or yellows.  They are just dull, dull, dull and I can't 
find any discussion regarding this problem on the net.  I guess I 
haven't stumbled across the correct magic phrase.


YMMV


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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Samuel Penn]

On Friday 16 July 2010 10:19:11 James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a requirement for a Laser Duplex printer with Ethernet network
>  interface. The last time I brought a printer was about 10 years ago.
> The previous one was a HP LaserJet 4L.
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations?

I've got a Xerox Phaser 8560DN. It's both duplex and colour.
Takes a while to warm up, but quality is good (and it was the
cheapest colour duplex laser I could find when I got it a few
years ago, but if you just want B&W there will be cheaper
alternatives).

And yes, it does network (and works from CUPS).

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Ian Park]

I can second that - I use  Brother HL-5270DN, which does PostScript
emulation and duplex printing. Bought it through Amazon; the only small
wrinkle is that it came from France, but they supplied a UK mains lead
for it as well as the continental one.

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On 16/07/10 10:26, Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> On 16 July 2010 10:19, James Courtier-Dutton  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a requirement for a Laser Duplex printer with Ethernet
> network interface.
> The last time I brought a printer was about 10 years ago.
> The previous one was a HP LaserJet 4L.
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations?
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> James
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> I'm on my second Brother laser printer, the previous one having lasted
> eleven years: excellent!
> 
> The current model is an HL-5250. Highly recommended.
> 
> Chris.
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> 
> 
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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Russell Morris]

We also have some 4300n printers (and others in the series), and they've
been solid; I don't think we paid half as much as £1000, though!


On 16 July 2010 10:38, Paul Stimpson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've used the HP Laserjet 4300n (and 4200n - the same but a little slower)
> and they are excellent devices. They are fairly compact and modular so you
> buy the bits you need (duplexer, paper trays, stapler/stacker, trolley...)
> If you can find one there are preloaded ones where the model numbers end
> "dn" (Duplex + Network) and "dtn" (Duplex + jumbo 2nd paper Tray + Network)
> that come with the options pre-installed.
>
> The base printer with just network and no options was originally over £1000
> and they do something like 18000 pages from a cartridge (chipped).  They are
> rated at something like 30,000 pages a month and you can pick ex-lease ones
> up (that have only done something like 25,000 pages total and have a half
> full cartridge) on eBay for a couple of hundred pounds. I've seen the
> duplexer and the jumbo 2nd paper tray on eBay too. If you find one without
> the "n" (no network) then the Jetdirect Ethernet module is also available as
> a self-install option on eBay.
>
> I've not had one to try yet but the Samsung colour lasers seem to have
> duplex and Ethernet and seem to be penguin-friendly.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul.
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Courtier-Dutton 
> Sender: hampshire-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:19:11
> To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List
> Reply-To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List 
> Subject: [Hampshire] Printers
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a requirement for a Laser Duplex printer with Ethernet network
> interface.
> The last time I brought a printer was about 10 years ago.
> The previous one was a HP LaserJet 4L.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
> Kind Regards
>
> James
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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Paul Stimpson]

Hi,

I've used the HP Laserjet 4300n (and 4200n - the same but a little slower) and 
they are excellent devices. They are fairly compact and modular so you buy the 
bits you need (duplexer, paper trays, stapler/stacker, trolley...) If you can 
find one there are preloaded ones where the model numbers end "dn" (Duplex + 
Network) and "dtn" (Duplex + jumbo 2nd paper Tray + Network) that come with the 
options pre-installed. 

The base printer with just network and no options was originally over £1000 and 
they do something like 18000 pages from a cartridge (chipped).  They are rated 
at something like 30,000 pages a month and you can pick ex-lease ones up (that 
have only done something like 25,000 pages total and have a half full 
cartridge) on eBay for a couple of hundred pounds. I've seen the duplexer and 
the jumbo 2nd paper tray on eBay too. If you find one without the "n" (no 
network) then the Jetdirect Ethernet module is also available as a self-install 
option on eBay. 

I've not had one to try yet but the Samsung colour lasers seem to have duplex 
and Ethernet and seem to be penguin-friendly. 

Cheers,
Paul. 


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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:19:11 
To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List
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Subject: [Hampshire] Printers

Hi,

I have a requirement for a Laser Duplex printer with Ethernet network interface.
The last time I brought a printer was about 10 years ago.
The previous one was a HP LaserJet 4L.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

Kind Regards

James

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Chris. Aubrey-Smith]

On 16 July 2010 10:19, James Courtier-Dutton  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a requirement for a Laser Duplex printer with Ethernet network
> interface.
> The last time I brought a printer was about 10 years ago.
> The previous one was a HP LaserJet 4L.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
> Kind Regards
>
> James
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I'm on my second Brother laser printer, the previous one having lasted
eleven years: excellent!

The current model is an HL-5250. Highly recommended.

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Stephen Davies]

I've used several Kyocera FS series printers from Linux.
I currently use a Samsung CL350 Colour Laser and an Epson 2100 Inkjet.

As an aside, the Linux Cups driver for the 2100 has more features that 
the one shipped with OS/X which is ironic as Apple is the Cups 
maintainer. I can print panoramas 5ft long on 8in wide paper from Linux 
whereas both Windows & OSX fail miserable.

I'd avoid Lexmark printers though. The (AFAIK) specifically do not 
support any operation from Linux even if it is over a LAN.

Stephen D


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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Paul Stimpson]

Leo wrote:
> I'm thinking of getting a printer and was just wondering if anyone could 
> recommend a make that works easily and well with Linux (Ubuntu).
>
> Thanks,
> Leo
>
>   

Hi,

I've used the following:

* HP Laserjet 4000n
* HP Laserjet 4200n
* HP Laserjet 4300n
* HP Deskjet 895Cxi
* HP 1310 multifunction **
* HP Color Laserjet 2820  **
* HP Color Laserjet 5500
* HP Color Laserjet 8550
* Samsung ML1750
* Xerox Workcentre Pro 40 ***
* Xerox Workcentre 7345 

** I have also successfully scanned with these.
*** No driver for it but the Pro 128 driver seemed to work fine.
 The Linux driver can't control the finisher so the stapler doesn't 
work.

All of these printers have worked out the box.

The guy down in our print room (an employee of Xerox on contract) says 
that he considers the build quality of the small Xeroxes to be 
comparable to the big ones and that he would buy them for home even 
though he doesn't get employee discount. He commented that HP running 
costs are much higher than Xerox per page.

I always regard HP as a safe bet. Epson are very much "in" with the OSS 
community too.

I was going to suggest looking into the new Kodak ESP series printers 
(cheap ink that doesn't fade) but an initial Google seems to suggest 
that they're boat-anchors when it comes to Linux.

Cheers,
Paul.



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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[john lewis]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:06:05 +0100
Leo  wrote:

> I'm thinking of getting a printer and was just wondering if anyone
> could recommend a make that works easily and well with Linux (Ubuntu).

I only require b&w printing so got a Kyocera FS-1100 laser printer with
network interface, it works fine with cups and a downloaded
kyocera.ppd. No problems printing from Debian or XP systems on our
home network.

It is listed in the openprinting.org/printer_list so knew I was safe in
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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Lisi]

On Thursday 27 August 2009 20:55:05 Leo wrote:
> It appears as though the Canon I was
> looking at is probably not the best choice

I have tried to install Canons that other people already owned.  The 
experience can best be summed up with "Ouch!"

> so now I'm thinking a HP 
> Deskjet 6940

In addition to HPLIP which Al mentioned, there is also hpijs.  Those two with 
CUPS make using most HPs child's play.

I have also had success with Samsungs.  I myself have an ML1510 and I have 
installed more recent models for other people.  Samsung supplies Linux 
drivers, but I have found the ones that come with CUPS more satisfactory.

Lisi



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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Alan Pope]

2009/8/27 Leo :
> Thank you for the quick come back. It appears as though the Canon I was
> looking at is probably not the best choice so now I'm thinking a HP
> Deskjet 6940 (although it appears to have been around a while!).
>

I have a 6310 which is a printer/scanner/copier/fax and it "Just
Works". Plugged it in and the drivers for the printer were already
installed and ready to print before I'd sat down and put paper in it.
There's also a tool called HPLIP which lets you know ink levels and so
on, so it works much like it would on windows, but without the crappy
bloated HP mess that they call a driver.

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Leo]

Thank you for the quick come back. It appears as though the Canon I was 
looking at is probably not the best choice so now I'm thinking a HP 
Deskjet 6940 (although it appears to have been around a while!).

Leo

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Ian Park]

Leo wrote:
> I'm thinking of getting a printer and was just wondering if anyone could 
> recommend a make that works easily and well with Linux (Ubuntu).
> 
> Thanks,
> Leo
> 
I have a Brother HL-5270DN - Postscript emulation, automatic
double-sided printing and an Ethernet interface - works fine on my home
network with both Ubuntu and Windoze machines.

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Keith Edmunds]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:06:05 +0100, li...@fractal.me.uk said:

>  anyone could 
> recommend a make that works easily and well with Linux

http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi

Lists many printers and exactly how well they work with Linux.

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Clive Woodfine]

2009/8/27 Leo :
> I'm thinking of getting a printer and was just wondering if anyone could
> recommend a make that works easily and well with Linux (Ubuntu).
>
> Thanks,
> Leo
>
All HP's have worked for me.

Clive Woodfine

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