[Hardhats-members] Re: Configuration Project -- update
OK, Something to play with. Thanks, Kevin gra'pa Z -- Original Message --- From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Configuration Project -- update Let's try this again. I think I have the correct files uploaded now. -- beware the sarcoptic mange --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fwd: Text of Article from Modern Physician
we are working on an interface. -Original Message- From: A. Forrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fwd: Text of Article from Modern Physician The issue of lab data communication has largely been addressed by to sets of messaging standards: 1) Instrument Interface with lab information systems (particulalry Point-of-Care instrumentation) is address by NCCLS (1 Nov to be: Clinical and Laboratory Standards Institutue - CLSI) POCT1A 2) HL7 v2.x standards and CLSI LIS2A and LIS5A which define instrument-computer and computer-computer system data exchanges. #1 uses message formats from #2 but defines low-lvel protocols similar to LIS1A (the CLSI stds were previously ASTM E-31). The EHR locations of these data (ASTM E-1384) have been mapped to the lab standards and are being related to the newer V3 HL7 standards. VistA has an HL7 messaging module that can deal with these messaging flow how ever the CLSI POCT1A use with respect to lab data flow is in a later state of evolution. Discussions are underway with World VistA about work with the clinical lab specialty societies to address these issues in concert with society educational forums and other meetings. The lab companies below usually have this capability but use of the LOINC vocabulary (present in VistA) within healthcare enterpise business processes is an additional dimension that both lab service and lab information system Suppliers have had difficulty with. Thus this probleme area will require collbaorative work with these healthcare disciplines. On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Nancy E. Anthracite wrote: I suspect by lab interface Kevin is referring to getting lab results back from Lab Corp, Quest and the like and entering the results directly into the EMR. Some years ago, the cost to do that was usually about $5000 collected by the EMR company and another $5000 collected by the lab for an interface for ONE lab. I don't know it that is true any longer, but I strongly suspect it is. Getting labs to make their output compliant with some standard would be a big step forward and one that I think may have to be mandated by the government sooner or later as there will be little incentive to change otherwise. Now if the VA did not do their own lab for the most part, they are big enough to force a standardized interface. On Tuesday 19 October 2004 02:22 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: I think those are excellent observations! As for lab results, most lab instruments have electronic interfaces built in. (In my experience, even the oldest equipment had at least a rudimentary electronic output.) With regard to upgrading, the VA has been extremely conservative with regard to what kind of equipment the end user needs for access to VistA, as well as the server side hardware and software. Unless you're getting into diagnostic imaging, hardware (and code set license) costs will be in line with support costs (I would guess support costs over a 3 to 5 year upgrade cycle would be nearly the same as the hardware and license fees for the same time period). Having standard health data interchange standards as ubiquitous as the exchange standards banks use is critical to the VA's and the rest of the world's success at providing a cost saving HER. It's among the VHA's highest priority if not THE highest. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fwd: Text of Article from Modern Physician Hello all, In Tennessee, our medical malpractice company is hosting an EMR conference this December (and why it is them is interesting) . My office manager and I will be attending at the request of my medical group. The group had previously agreed (tenatively) to go with VistA, but they still want me to look at other alternatives. I haven't seen the actual report, but I have heard that AAFP is now strongly recommending that physicians get an EMR system. I think this will push many into buying in--perhaps for fear of liability if something happens after such a strong directive is ignored. This will be an business expense, not an investment, because there will be little (and I suspect no) financial return on this expendature. But frankly, I worry that this will be an expensive wild goose chase. I believe the power of an EMR will not be realized unless there is interoperability. For example, if labs are not obtained in a standard format that could be shared with others, then users will end up scanning the report and storing it as a graphic. This is no better than a paper chart. And while many labs probably have such an interface, I know that my hospital doesn't. And I suspect a majority of small hospitals don't (and remember that MUCH of America's health
[Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
Hello all, I need to do some terminal scripting. As I try to download old progress notes from my server, it keeps stopping and asking me a pointless question (1000's of times!). I need a simple terminal script that enters N. I know that TeraTerm Pro will do scripting, but I can't get it to properly emulate an 3151 terminal that our server expects. The bash shell, however, does fine: all the functions keys work as needed etc. So I know that there is a scripting language built into bash. Is there any easy to write a program that simply scans for a given phrase (i.e. Is this the same patient?) and then automatically enter N. And if not found, then stay out of the way? Thanks Kevin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
Kevin, What problem are you having with TeraTerm? For scripting, terminal type usually isn't an issue. The keyboard config file allows for redefining most of the keys. (I can help with this.) It also has TEK4010 emulation which perhaps your system can handle. - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hardhats Sourceforge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:22 PM Subject: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? Hello all, I need to do some terminal scripting. As I try to download old progress notes from my server, it keeps stopping and asking me a pointless question (1000's of times!). I need a simple terminal script that enters N. I know that TeraTerm Pro will do scripting, but I can't get it to properly emulate an 3151 terminal that our server expects. The bash shell, however, does fine: all the functions keys work as needed etc. So I know that there is a scripting language built into bash. Is there any easy to write a program that simply scans for a given phrase (i.e. Is this the same patient?) and then automatically enter N. And if not found, then stay out of the way? Thanks Kevin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
OK, I'm going to think out loud. Please let me know if I am off track. In my bash script, I will need to initiate a connection to my old (AIX) server. We're on a VPN, so are using telnet. #begin script telnet xx.xx.xx.xx echo goodbyte #end script The above script will not show goodbye until after the connection to the server is closed. This won't help. So I need to somehow control the input and output of the telnet program. Sounds like redirection is needed. #begin script telnet xx.xx.xx.xx SomeScript SomeScript echo goodbyte #end script The above should launch telnet as well as SomeScript, and put all output to SomeScript, and get all input from the same. But my question is, will this direct IO to a process, or will it overwrite SomeScript as a simple text file? Kevin --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I need to do some terminal scripting. As I try to download old progress notes from my server, it keeps stopping and asking me a pointless question (1000's of times!). I need a simple terminal script that enters N. I know that TeraTerm Pro will do scripting, but I can't get it to properly emulate an 3151 terminal that our server expects. The bash shell, however, does fine: all the functions keys work as needed etc. So I know that there is a scripting language built into bash. Is there any easy to write a program that simply scans for a given phrase (i.e. Is this the same patient?) and then automatically enter N. And if not found, then stay out of the way? Thanks Kevin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Re: Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
You need a way to hook GTM to your 3151 terminal, whatever that is. Then you could use MUMPS for your scripting. Used to be easy when dumb terminals were sufficiently dumb. gra'pa Z -- Original Message --- From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hardhats Sourceforge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
You should be able to remote shell (rsh) into the mahine. Ex. rsh command or script To do the same thing Thank you, Marc Aylesworth Health Specialist Technician Oneida Indian Nation 223 Genesee Street Oneida, New York 13421 (315) 829-8909 This electronic transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. You are also requested to please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? OK, I'm going to think out loud. Please let me know if I am off track. In my bash script, I will need to initiate a connection to my old (AIX) server. We're on a VPN, so are using telnet. #begin script telnet xx.xx.xx.xx echo goodbyte #end script The above script will not show goodbye until after the connection to the server is closed. This won't help. So I need to somehow control the input and output of the telnet program. Sounds like redirection is needed. #begin script telnet xx.xx.xx.xx SomeScript SomeScript echo goodbyte #end script The above should launch telnet as well as SomeScript, and put all output to SomeScript, and get all input from the same. But my question is, will this direct IO to a process, or will it overwrite SomeScript as a simple text file? Kevin --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I need to do some terminal scripting. As I try to download old progress notes from my server, it keeps stopping and asking me a pointless question (1000's of times!). I need a simple terminal script that enters N. I know that TeraTerm Pro will do scripting, but I can't get it to properly emulate an 3151 terminal that our server expects. The bash shell, however, does fine: all the functions keys work as needed etc. So I know that there is a scripting language built into bash. Is there any easy to write a program that simply scans for a given phrase (i.e. Is this the same patient?) and then automatically enter N. And if not found, then stay out of the way? Thanks Kevin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88alloc_id065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
Kea! Does have a scripting language that allows just that option. Something like if the last string received is Hit and Key to continue then Kea! Will insert a carriage return. However, I have found all terminal emulators to have their own script language, everything from Basic based to Java based, but never quite the same. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:23 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? Hello all, I need to do some terminal scripting. As I try to download old progress notes from my server, it keeps stopping and asking me a pointless question (1000's of times!). I need a simple terminal script that enters N. I know that TeraTerm Pro will do scripting, but I can't get it to properly emulate an 3151 terminal that our server expects. The bash shell, however, does fine: all the functions keys work as needed etc. So I know that there is a scripting language built into bash. Is there any easy to write a program that simply scans for a given phrase (i.e. Is this the same patient?) and then automatically enter N. And if not found, then stay out of the way? Thanks Kevin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88alloc_id065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
Kevin, If escape sequences are necessary to navigate, and if you don't know the escape sequences, then how will you write a script which contains all of the necessary characters? The following termcap segment came from www.blueemulations.com/e3151doc.shtml :f1=\Ea\r:f2=\Eb\r:f3=\Ec\r:f4=\Ed\r:f5=\Ee\r: :f6=\Ef\r:f7=\Eg\r:f8=\Eh\r:f9=\Ei\r:f10=\Ej\r: :f11=\Ek\r:f12=\El\r: :F1=\E!a\r:F2=\E!b\r:F3=\E!c\r:F4=\E!d\r:F5=\E!e\r: :F6=\E!f\r:F7=\E!g\r:F8=\Ew\r:F9=\E!i\r:F10=\E!j\r: :F11=\E!k\r:F12=\E!l\r: :^f1=\Ea\r:^f2=\Eb\r:^f3=\Ec\r:^f4=\Ed\r:^f5=\Ee\r: :^f6=\Ef\r:^f7=\Eg\r:^f8=\Eh\r:^f9=\Ei\r:^f10=\Ej\r: :^f11=\Ek\r:^f12=\El\r: -maury- - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? Maury, I spent a full day a month or so ago trying to get TeraTerm to work with our server, and finally gave up. In order to navigate on the server, I have to use F1-F12 keys. I spent a long time trying to figure out the escape sequences that should be sent when F1 etc is pressed, but couldn't ever get it to work. I know that key mapping would allow for any arbitrary sequence to be sent when a key is pressed. But again, I couldn't figure out what they should be. Thanks Kevin --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, What problem are you having with TeraTerm? For scripting, terminal type usually isn't an issue. The keyboard config file allows for redefining most of the keys. (I can help with this.) It also has TEK4010 emulation which perhaps your system can handle. - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hardhats Sourceforge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:22 PM Subject: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? Hello all, I need to do some terminal scripting. As I try to download old progress notes from my server, it keeps stopping and asking me a pointless question (1000's of times!). I need a simple terminal script that enters N. I know that TeraTerm Pro will do scripting, but I can't get it to properly emulate an 3151 terminal that our server expects. The bash shell, however, does fine: all the functions keys work as needed etc. So I know that there is a scripting language built into bash. Is there any easy to write a program that simply scans for a given phrase (i.e. Is this the same patient?) and then automatically enter N. And if not found, then stay out of the way? Thanks Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
If escape sequences are necessary to navigate, and if you don't know the escape sequences, then how will you write a script which contains all of the necessary characters? The following termcap segment came from www.blueemulations.com/e3151doc.shtml :f1=\Ea\r:f2=\Eb\r:f3=\Ec\r:f4=\Ed\r:f5=\Ee\r: :f6=\Ef\r:f7=\Eg\r:f8=\Eh\r:f9=\Ei\r:f10=\Ej\r: :f11=\Ek\r:f12=\El\r: :F1=\E!a\r:F2=\E!b\r:F3=\E!c\r:F4=\E!d\r:F5=\E!e\r: :F6=\E!f\r:F7=\E!g\r:F8=\Ew\r:F9=\E!i\r:F10=\E!j\r: :F11=\E!k\r:F12=\E!l\r: :^f1=\Ea\r:^f2=\Eb\r:^f3=\Ec\r:^f4=\Ed\r:^f5=\Ee\r: :^f6=\Ef\r:^f7=\Eg\r:^f8=\Eh\r:^f9=\Ei\r:^f10=\Ej\r: :^f11=\Ek\r:^f12=\El\r: - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? Maury, I spent a full day a month or so ago trying to get TeraTerm to work with our server, and finally gave up. In order to navigate on the server, I have to use F1-F12 keys. I spent a long time trying to figure out the escape sequences that should be sent when F1 etc is pressed, but couldn't ever get it to work. I know that key mapping would allow for any arbitrary sequence to be sent when a key is pressed. But again, I couldn't figure out what they should be. Thanks Kevin --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, What problem are you having with TeraTerm? For scripting, terminal type usually isn't an issue. The keyboard config file allows for redefining most of the keys. (I can help with this.) It also has TEK4010 emulation which perhaps your system can handle. - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hardhats Sourceforge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:22 PM Subject: [Hardhats-members] Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting? Hello all, I need to do some terminal scripting. As I try to download old progress notes from my server, it keeps stopping and asking me a pointless question (1000's of times!). I need a simple terminal script that enters N. I know that TeraTerm Pro will do scripting, but I can't get it to properly emulate an 3151 terminal that our server expects. The bash shell, however, does fine: all the functions keys work as needed etc. So I know that there is a scripting language built into bash. Is there any easy to write a program that simply scans for a given phrase (i.e. Is this the same patient?) and then automatically enter N. And if not found, then stay out of the way? Thanks Kevin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Linux console as terminal emulator, with scripting?
On 10/26/04 5:22 PM, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Setenv DISPLAY=vt-100 ksh: Setenv: not found. # Export DISPLAY=vt-100 ksh: Export: not found. AIX commands are case-sensitive. Make certain you're using 'setenv/export' instead of 'Setenv/Export' . --- Floyd Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members