[Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call
*** VistA Community Call -- Friday at NOON EDT *** TOPIC: Improving the Image of VistA DATE: Friday, May 5 TIME: 12:00 Noon EDT DURATION: 1 hour. CONFERENCE CALL DIAL IN NUMBERS USA 866-483-4159 (toll free) Outside USA 706-634-0093 Conference ID Number: 6554848 !!! !!! Please send suggested topics for future calls to: !!! mpepper *at* worldvista *dot* org !!! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Thanks to Hewlett-Packard and Sharon Mobley for providing the teleconferencing facilities. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't ping 2 VistA GT.M implementations
Thank you for the explanation. Your response is another example of the first rate help and education that this list provides - from detailed computer theory to the more mundane, it is one of the finest sources for help. It would appear that a compilation and editing of many of the submissions would provide the content for an introductory textbook for VistA users. The concept of HL7 ping was for one Vista client system to verify that a remote Vista listener was up and configured properly on the node and port defined on the client system. When the high level ping fails, the client makes a call to DNS to see if the Vista listener has been moved to another node. If DNS returns a list of nodes, each node is pinged in sequence. If there is a successful connection on an alternate node, the client's local database is updated with the new information. The key is to have DNS contain all possible nodes that a listener could run on. That way the listener can be moved to a different server when the original one is taken out of service. John Clemens Mon-Fri, 0730-1600 phone 650.464.7585 (personal cell) -- Ismet B. Kursunoglu, MD, FCCP Medical Director Alaska Clinic, LLC 3750 E. Country Field Circle, STE B Wasilla, Alaska 99654-6659 [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice (907)357-7240 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't ping 2 VistA GT.M implementations
Usha -- IO command parameters are different for each MUMPS implementation. I know of no known GT.M bugs in this area. You may well have to break the problem down and/or trace the application code to find out why it is not working. Incidentally, have you checked the error logs. Regards -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Usha Sent: Thu 5/4/2006 11:26 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't ping 2 VistA GT.M implementations The same configuration successfully HL7 pings two Cache implementations of VistA. Then why doesn't it work with GT.M? Regards Usha winmail.dat
RE: [Hardhats-members] Migrating vista console module routines to client side GUIs
I think this is the voice of reason, the whole reason for open source is for choices, there should not be replacement but supplement of user interfaces so that someone can choose the best interface that fits his/her situation. Thanks Marc Aylesworth RRC C3I Group AFRL/IFSE Systems and Information Interoperability Branch 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:33 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Migrating vista console module routines to cleint side GUIs I think a big part of the problem is that we're speaking as if GUI interfaces can all be lumped together as one user interface style. We all quietly accept that roll and scroll is one style of character based user interface, but no one stops to consider whether there aer different styles of GUI interfaces? I'm somewhat at a disadvantage when it comes to coming up with examples because I'm not a Linux user and so will not be able to provide examples that are Linux desktop applications. But consider Outlook with its list of objects (messages) and separate pane representing the contents of that message, and compare this with a tabbed propery dialog, or even Word which provides the ability to highlight changes to a document and then give you the ability to accept or reject those changes. They are different user interface models corresponding to different tasks or usage patterns. Whether you consider these designs to be good or bad isn't really the point. Rather, it is that user interfaces can be created (possibly through user customization) to support different usage patterns. Roll and scroll is just one paradigm: In some cases it may be just what you want, and in others it may not be. (After all, why do we have ScreenMan and List Manager? Clearly *someone* thought a different pattern of interactions was called for in at least some applications!) === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Tao of VistA: If all you see is MUMPS, you see nothing. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Open Source Free Practice Management System Interfaces
If anyone knows of any practice management systems out there that are willing to have their interfaces to VistA be FLOSS, please let me know as I need some examples of what we be facing when it comes time to trying to build them. -- Nancy Anthracite --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Open Source Free Practice Management System Interfaces
Hi Nancy, Still a rough draft (http://www.unitedswe.com/fll/pms.htm) but I've started looking at Open Source PMS's. Everyone please let me know of others I need to review. So far I've looked at the following. These are all closely related and web-based so far: FreeMed/OpenEMR/MirrorMed (ClearHealth) Tim --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone knows of any practice management systems out there that are willing to have their interfaces to VistA be FLOSS, please let me know as I need some examples of what we be facing when it comes time to trying to build them. -- Nancy Anthracite --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Open Source Free Practice Management System Interfaces
Thanks! On Friday 05 May 2006 09:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nancy, Still a rough draft (http://www.unitedswe.com/fll/pms.htm) but I've started looking at Open Source PMS's. Everyone please let me know of others I need to review. So far I've looked at the following. These are all closely related and web-based so far: FreeMed/OpenEMR/MirrorMed (ClearHealth) Tim --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone knows of any practice management systems out there that are willing to have their interfaces to VistA be FLOSS, please let me know as I need some examples of what we be facing when it comes time to trying to build them. -- Nancy Anthracite --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't ping 2 VistA GT.M implementations
On May 4, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Usha wrote:The same configuration successfully HL7 pings two Cache implementations of VistA. Then why doesn't it work with GT.M? Regards Usha As john Clemens said, I suspect the problem is with your listener setup. If you're using a single listener (I don't recommend this), use netstat to verify that the connection is open and running. Otherwise, you probably want to set up a listener using inetd or xinetd. I don't use Linux, but I've done this many times using TCPIP services (a.k.a. UCX) under VMS. That's pretty much the same thing. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Those who are enamored of practicewithout theory are like a pilot who goesinto a ship without rudder or compass."--Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
Re: [Hardhats-members] Open Source Free Practice Management System Interfaces
Tim Jowers wrote: Hi Nancy, Still a rough draft (http://www.unitedswe.com/fll/pms.htm) but I've started looking at Open Source PMS's. Everyone please let me know of others I need to review. So far I've looked at the following. These are all closely related and web-based so far: FreeMed/OpenEMR/MirrorMed (ClearHealth) The web page could use a title that mentions PMS. It looks like the beginnings of a useful resource. I haven't had time yet to look much at these offerings, but I intend to once we have gotten a little further along with constructing a web based interface for basic VistA functionalities like patient registration, user registration. --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone knows of any practice management systems out there that are willing to have their interfaces to VistA be FLOSS, please let me know as I need some examples of what we be facing when it comes time to trying to build them. --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- M2Web Demonstration with VistA (http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/) (http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/m.cgi) --- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Sun to Make Java More Linux-Friendly
From ACM Tech News,Sun to Make Java More Linux-Friendly CNet (05/04/06) LaMonica, MartinSun Microsystems will announce changes to its licensing provisions at the upcoming JavaOne conference that will make it easier to package Java Runtime Environment with Linux. Sun is modifying the software that enables PCs to run Java in an effort to reach out to open-source systems, particularly Linux and OpenSolaris. "The intention is to make it easier for distributors and developers to get their hands on the runtime with the operating system," said Sun's Laurie Tolson. Sun has long faced pressure to make the entire Java platform open source to encourage development, and Sun has indeed made significant changes to the Java development process and made the source code more accessible, though it has stopped short of formally opening all Java. Sun is also likely to announce a software development kit for Java EE 5, the most recent upgrade to the Java server standard. Last year Sun announced the GlassFish project, a code-sharing initiative that seeks to create a Java application server built on the Java EE 5 standard. Software built on the standard will support the Enterprise Java Beans 3.0 standard that is designed to facilitate accessing data from Java programs and writing transactional systems. Java EE 5 has also been modified to accelerate Web development and the design of Web services. Prebuilt components packaged in software based on Java EE 5 for creating Web applications will use the AJAX Web development method.Click Here to View Full Article Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Those who are enamored of practicewithout theory are like a pilot who goesinto a ship without rudder or compass."--Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call
On May 4, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Maury Pepper wrote: *** VistA Community Call -- Friday at NOON EDT *** TOPIC: Improving the Image of VistA I thought it was a good call and an important topic. I was typically outspoken, but think there really is a lot that we can and should do here. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Those who are enamored of practicewithout theory are like a pilot who goesinto a ship without rudder or compass."--Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
[Hardhats-members] New VistA Project
Wish me Luck! My board just approved a small demonstration project using OpenVistA. I will be the only provider, but using it on real patients in an outpatient clinic setting. We hope to show that VistA is a high quality, low cost alternative to commercial EHRs in the Community Health Care setting and to demonstrate its functionality to other Community Health Centers in our state (AZ). Its a very small project, but may catch the attention of other CHCs, especially AZ CHCs. My IT director and I have installed HUI OV4 onto a small server and are configuring it now; except he just went out of town for a week#%! Ive downloaded CPRS and Putty onto my desktop in my office and will get it to talk to the VistA server. (That hasnt happened yet. I received device errors when I started the RPC Broker, so we will need to troubleshoot that when my IT director returns.) I must say, however, the OV4 installation (on Suse 9.3) went extremely well and very fast! It has automated scripts that really simplify the process. My plan is to gain proficiency on CPRS on my desktop first and then use a wireless laptop in the exam room. Ive been using the CPRS demo to train myself. I am also heavily using the Hui VistA Institute Documentation and the VA VeHU e-Xpress Train web site for additional training: http://www.pacifichui.org http://www.vehu.med.va.gov/vehu/eXpressTrain.cfm I did a survey asking the MAs about their comfort level using a computer. I will need to pick one of them to assist me with the project. Kevin graciously agreed to provide some technical assistance on the project, for which I am thankful. I also would like to thank everyone on the listserve, the Hui project and WorldVistA wiki for their help and support, especially Bhaskar, Nancy, Jim, James Gray, Joseph Dal Molin, and Norman Dodd. I would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have to ensure the success of the project. Matthew M. King, MD Medical Director Clinica Adelante, Inc Surprise, Arizona 85374 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Hardhats-members] Medication Error tracking
I was reading this today: While these numbers are impressive, they are likely to be a significant underestimation of the problem. First, the two studies from which the statistics are extracted are believed to offer conservative figures because they were limited to injuries of a specified level of harm, they required a high threshold to determine whether an adverse event was preventable or negligent, and they included only those errors documented in patient records.2 Second, these statistics represent errors in hospitals only. More recently, Barker and colleagues observed a persistence of the problem in defining 19% of doses administered in health care facilities to be in error and 7% rated as potentially harmful.3 20% of the doses is impressive. Who was working with he Pharmacy modules? Was that Kevin? Is there a means for error reporting and tracking? Ruben --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project
My board just approved a small demonstration project using OpenVistA. Excellent! ... I received device errors when I started the RPC Broker, so we will need to troubleshoot that when my IT director returns.) Sounds like something we can help with here too, so why don't you post a screen log that you get when you try to start the RPC broker (I assume you are talking about the server side) to this message board and let us have a go at it. I must say, however, the OV4 installation (on Suse 9.3) went extremely well and very fast! It has automated scripts that really simplify the process. Great. I'd like to see how it has changed for the better! Kevin graciously agreed to provide some technical assistance on the project, for which I am thankful. You may find that you develop the skills yourself :-) That would be the best way overall, but I'll help however I can, and I know others will as well. Keep us in touch. Kevin --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Medication Error tracking
See below On 5/5/06, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reading this today: While these numbers are impressive, What numbers? Did you mean to include a link to an article? they are likely to be a significant underestimation of the problem. First, the two studies from which the statistics are extracted are believed to offer conservative figures because they were limited to injuries of a specified level of harm, they required a high threshold to determine whether an adverse event was preventable or negligent, and they included only those errors documented in patient records.2 Second, these statistics represent errors in hospitals only. More recently, Barker and colleagues observed a persistence of the problem in defining 19% of doses administered in health care facilities to be in error and 7% rated as potentially harmful.3 20% of the doses is impressive. Reuben, I am always very skeptical of these studies. Does 20% of all doses make any sense to you? I have a hard time believing it. A typical patient may well be on 8 drugs in the hospital, and TID -- 24 doses a day. So 20%=5 erroneous does a day? I bet this is a statistacal aberration. Or else I am very nieve. Perhaps the bigger the numbers quoted, the more likely that one will get one's paper published? Who was working with he Pharmacy modules? Was that Kevin? Is there a means for error reporting and tracking? I haven't seen anything about error tracking, but I am very focused on a small part of the pharmacy package right now ... drug classifications with the VA classes. What a headache! I thought I was done, and then found 5,000 more drugs in the FDA database that were completely new to the VA database, so there are no potential matches that can be used to suggest drug classes for the new drugs. Also, I have never seen so many drugs that I have never heard of in my life. All kinds of combination tablets with unfamiliar tradenames Kevin --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project
Kevin and Matt; I might further suggest that, Matt, you have a community of folks who have seen many of the challenges you will be facing and that they will be happy to throw their experience into the discussions if you can articulate the problems you are seeing. We would suggest that if you have any additional insights that may make it easier for the next guy in your situation,please bring them on to the group, either here or on the wiki. We are growing up a massive knowledge base of such lessons learned and want the community to prosper from these experiences. Good luck and you are not alone. - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project My board just approved a small demonstration project using OpenVistA. Excellent! ... I received device errors when I started the RPC Broker, so we will need to troubleshoot that when my IT director returns.) Sounds like something we can help with here too, so why don't you post a screen log that you get when you try to start the RPC broker (I assume you are talking about the server side) to this message board and let us have a go at it. I must say, however, the OV4 installation (on Suse 9.3) went extremely well and very fast! It has automated scripts that really simplify the process. Great. I'd like to see how it has changed for the better! Kevin graciously agreed to provide some technical assistance on the project, for which I am thankful. You may find that you develop the skills yourself :-) That would be the best way overall, but I'll help however I can, and I know others will as well. Keep us in touch. Kevin --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Migrating vista console module routines to client side GUIs
Marc Aylesworth wrote: the whole reason for open source is for choices, That is certainly part of it. The essence of it to me is freedom of information, particularly of the deep knowledge necessary to keep vital systems like VistA viable and moving forward with new technology. there should not be replacement but supplement of user interfaces so that someone can choose the best interface that fits his/her situation. Certainly, the challenge at this point is to construct a complete non-CHUI interface to VistA so that potential users can choose a richer user interface than can be provided by a VT100 terminal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:33 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Migrating vista console module routines to cleint side GUIs I think a big part of the problem is that we're speaking as if GUI interfaces can all be lumped together as one user interface style. We Lumping GUI interfaces together as a matter of style seems like an obvious misconception. The major distinction between GUI and CHUI is simply that CHUI displays are limited to an array of character cells where GUI displays are based on pixels. GUI has a more fundamental and general basis so that CHUI (terminal emulators for instance) can be represented within GUI. all quietly accept that roll and scroll is one style of character based user interface, but no one stops to consider whether there aer different styles of GUI interfaces? I would think that most people would be aware of major differences in user interface style even just within web interfaces. And of course, not all web browsers are GUI. There are some very capable CHUI web browsers, they just can't represent images as well as GUI browsers directly. Some can represent images as ASCII art or they can call helper applications to display images separately. Web interfaces should be considered a separate category independent of GUI and CHUI. The essential features of web applications are simply HTML and HTTP. The choice between roll-and-scroll and other styles or modes of interaction does not have to be all or nothing in either GUI or CHUI. One of the first things I did in defining a CHUI for VMACS twenty something years ago was to restrict roll-and-scroll interactions from touching regions of the VT display reserved for input forms, menus, and status indicators. This allowed us to use features from classic fileman within a more sophisticated and higher performance overall CHUI user interface. Another example is the web based command shell in M2Web. That combines some of the best features of roll-and-scroll with the richer interface capabilities of a web browser. You submit command lines from a text input field (or textarea for multiple command lines). There is a dropdown list that can be used to insert items from your command history into the text field. When you submit a command, the text of it is appended to your results history followed by any output it produces in plain text or HTML (including graphics, tables, hypertext, input forms, Javascript, etc). Each item in the results history can be collapsed or individually removed so that the display is not dominated by long listings or output that is no longer interesting. --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- M2Web Demonstration with VistA (http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/) (http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/m.cgi) --- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Medication Error tracking
On 5/5/06, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Yes - not only does it make sense, but I've confirmed this rate in my own studies both in ***ambutitary*** care settings (ir: at the counter in Rite-Aid) and in the hospital (following the nurses around). And this is while I was watching them. In fact, my data showed nearly 27% of the doses to be medically incorrect, and nearly 47% of the IV drugs given on the floors as being incorrect, and that was just from what I could see and not accounting for dosing errors, or miss use of drugs by physicians which my students and I did not catch even before following the nurse around. So can you give some examples? Would this be like using septra DS once daily instead of the usual BID? Are these prescription writing errors that you, the pharmacist, would catch? I mess up prescriptions not infrequently, i.e. --forget to put a quantity, forget to specify direction etc. But I don't often get the sig wrong in terms of actual dosing instructions. At one point it was discussed about what to do with Physician Order Entry and interaction warnings. I strongly recommend the inclusion of those warnings. In addition, if it was me, nobody would ever order a med without the prescribing information on the screen write next to the drug and annotation from the department heads and the pharmacy. Such systems have been designed, and impatient doctors don't usually tolerate them.. Not a surprise. My gut tells me that the FDA listing is not the best place to work off of. True, but when I was asking around, it was the only database I could find, and no one had a better suggestion. So now I am stuck with it. But ANY database that is complete will have all this old 'junk' in it. Kevin --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
