[Hardhats-members] Getting this again

2006-03-29 Thread aodor
I'm getting this error again. I'm using Outlook 2003 to read and post to the
list.

Alberto Odor, MD


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RE: [Hardhats-members] RE: VA's VistA Goes Big in Mexico

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Getting this again

2006-03-29 Thread aodor
Yes, I'm positive. If I send the message to the list with the same email through
a webmail app it gets correctly in the list (like this message will), but if I
send it through Outlook it does not and shows the approval pending message.

I'm using Outool 2003 SP2

I know some of you will say: use Firefox instead or Eudora or XXXmail, but I
have been using Outlook for years (good or bad) and have no intentions to
switch to anything else. I have posted to the list using Outool before.

Alberto




Are you positive you used the same email address when you signed up for the
list?  If not, you can sign up with multiple email addresses but not receive
mail at all of them.  I forgot how that is done though.

On Wednesday 29 March 2006 12:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm getting this error again. I'm using Outlook 2003 to read and post to the
list.

Alberto Odor, MD


Your mail to 'Hardhats-members' with the subject

RE: [Hardhats-members] RE: VA's VistA Goes Big in Mexico

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Re: [Hardhats-members] == Map of Routines in Cache and/or GTM ==

2005-09-29 Thread aodor
Thanks a lot Jim, your info is really useful, but it would be great to have 
those fields populated. Looking forward to meet you as soon as I arrive in 
Sacramento next January.

Alberto



Quoting Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Fileman files with numbers in the range between 9 and 10 seem to be
 intended as part
 of what you are asking for.
 
 http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?
dbfile=FILEformat=NAMEindex=FileNofind=9.4:9.8
 
 File number 9.8 (ROUTINE) fields for brief and extended descriptions as well
 as for
 globals referenced, local variables used, tags and parameters, routines
 invoked, routines
 invoked by etc.
 
 http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?dbfile=ROUTINEformat=EXTENDEDindex=Name
 
 Unfortunately, all of these are blank in my OpenVistA installations. Anyone
 here know what
  to invoke to update this data from current routine sources?
 
 Alberto Odor wrote:
 Tens of thousands of VistA routines are stored in Cache (in the database)
 and in GT.M (in the file system), their names are really cryptic to say
 the
 less.
 
  
 
 Is there some way to know what each routine does without having to open
 each of them and try to find out? Is there some document which has this
 info in some ordered way?
 
  
 
 If not, is there some way to make a “Map” of how the routines interact
 with
 each other? UML? Something else?
 
  
 
 Alberto Odor
 Mexico City
 
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 VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: == Map of Routines in Cache and/or GTM ==

2005-09-29 Thread aodor
That's why they are so cryptic. Why TIU for documents instead of DOC? Why Mag 
for images instead of IMG? Every time I see the list of Routines I feel lost.

Alberto

Quoting Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Alberto,
 
 You probably already know this, but the reason the module names are so
 cryptic is because the first 3-4 characters are used for the namespace
 (i.t. TIU for documents, MAG for imaging etc.)  and then they have to
 fit their entire module name into 4-5 characters.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 On 9/28/05, Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The Fileman files with numbers in the range between 9 and 10 seem to be
  intended as part
  of what you are asking for.
 
 
 http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?
dbfile=FILEformat=NAMEindex=FileNofind=9.4:9.8
 
  File number 9.8 (ROUTINE) fields for brief and extended descriptions as
 well
  as for
  globals referenced, local variables used, tags and parameters, routines
  invoked, routines
  invoked by etc.
 
 
 http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?dbfile=ROUTINEformat=EXTENDEDindex=Name
 
  Unfortunately, all of these are blank in my OpenVistA installations.
 Anyone
  here know what
   to invoke to update this data from current routine sources?
 
  Alberto Odor wrote:
  Tens of thousands of VistA routines are stored in Cache (in the
 database)
  and in GT.M (in the file system), their names are really cryptic to say
  the
  less.
  
  
  
  Is there some way to know what each routine does without having to open
  each of them and try to find out? Is there some document which has this
  info in some ordered way?
  
  
  
  If not, is there some way to make a Map of how the routines interact
  with
  each other? UML? Something else?
  
  
  
  Alberto Odor
  Mexico City
 
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  Systems Architect, Lead Developer
  VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
  (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself)
 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: == Map of Routines in Cache and/or GTM ==

2005-09-29 Thread aodor
Thanks nancy. The file is good, and also the file Formal Packages  
Parents.txt in the same site.

Alberto

Mensaje citado por Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Have you seen the document on the ftp.va.gov/vista/Software site called 
 Namespaces.txt ?  It can be a BIG help.
 
 On Thursday 29 September 2005 10:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's why they are so cryptic. Why TIU for documents instead of DOC? Why
 Mag
 for images instead of IMG? Every time I see the list of Routines I feel
 lost.
 
 Alberto
 
 Quoting Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Alberto,
 
  You probably already know this, but the reason the module names are so
  cryptic is because the first 3-4 characters are used for the namespace
  (i.t. TIU for documents, MAG for imaging etc.)  and then they have to
  fit their entire module name into 4-5 characters.
 
  Kevin
 
  On 9/28/05, Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The Fileman files with numbers in the range between 9 and 10 seem to be
   intended as part
   of what you are asking for.
 
  http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?
 
 dbfile=FILEformat=NAMEindex=FileNofind=9.4:9.8
 
   File number 9.8 (ROUTINE) fields for brief and extended descriptions as
 
  well
 
   as for
   globals referenced, local variables used, tags and parameters, routines
   invoked, routines
   invoked by etc.
 
 
 http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?dbfile=ROUTINEformat=EXTENDEDindex=Na
 me
 
   Unfortunately, all of these are blank in my OpenVistA installations.
 
  Anyone
 
   here know what
to invoke to update this data from current routine sources?
  
   Alberto Odor wrote:
   Tens of thousands of VistA routines are stored in Cache (in the
 
  database)
 
   and in GT.M (in the file system), their names are really cryptic to
 say
  
   the
  
   less.
   
   
   
   Is there some way to know what each routine does without having to
 open
   each of them and try to find out? Is there some document which has
 this
   info in some ordered way?
   
   
   
   If not, is there some way to make a Map of how the routines interact
  
   with
  
   each other? UML? Something else?
   
   
   
   Alberto Odor
   Mexico City
  
   ---
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   Systems Architect, Lead Developer
   VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
   (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself)
  
  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: == Map of Routines in Cache and/or GTM ==

2005-09-29 Thread aodor
WOW the ERDiagrams look great too!
I'll get some ink for my plotter today, but I'll need a LARGE wall to assemble 
it.

Alberto



Mensaje citado por Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Have you seen the document on the ftp.va.gov/vista/Software site called 
 Namespaces.txt ?  It can be a BIG help.
 
 On Thursday 29 September 2005 10:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's why they are so cryptic. Why TIU for documents instead of DOC? Why
 Mag
 for images instead of IMG? Every time I see the list of Routines I feel
 lost.
 
 Alberto
 
 Quoting Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Alberto,
 
  You probably already know this, but the reason the module names are so
  cryptic is because the first 3-4 characters are used for the namespace
  (i.t. TIU for documents, MAG for imaging etc.)  and then they have to
  fit their entire module name into 4-5 characters.
 
  Kevin
 
  On 9/28/05, Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The Fileman files with numbers in the range between 9 and 10 seem to be
   intended as part
   of what you are asking for.
 
  http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?
 
 dbfile=FILEformat=NAMEindex=FileNofind=9.4:9.8
 
   File number 9.8 (ROUTINE) fields for brief and extended descriptions as
 
  well
 
   as for
   globals referenced, local variables used, tags and parameters, routines
   invoked, routines
   invoked by etc.
 
 
 http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query?dbfile=ROUTINEformat=EXTENDEDindex=Na
 me
 
   Unfortunately, all of these are blank in my OpenVistA installations.
 
  Anyone
 
   here know what
to invoke to update this data from current routine sources?
  
   Alberto Odor wrote:
   Tens of thousands of VistA routines are stored in Cache (in the
 
  database)
 
   and in GT.M (in the file system), their names are really cryptic to
 say
  
   the
  
   less.
   
   
   
   Is there some way to know what each routine does without having to
 open
   each of them and try to find out? Is there some document which has
 this
   info in some ordered way?
   
   
   
   If not, is there some way to make a Map of how the routines interact
  
   with
  
   each other? UML? Something else?
   
   
   
   Alberto Odor
   Mexico City
  
   ---
   Jim Self
   Systems Architect, Lead Developer
   VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
   (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself)
  
  
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