RE: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
AICN is not a HEC cross reference, it is an MPI cross reference.
There are triggers for HL7 messages to both HEC and MPI when you make
changes to eligibility and identity related information in VistA. These HL7
messages require the HL7 links to be configured, and up and running to go
out. Even if these links are up and running, you will need to be on the
Intranet to actually connect.
There are some things on the inbound messages from HEC that trigger emails
locally, but you should not see any of those because you won't be getting
HL7 messages from HEC.
It's unlikely for email messages to be automatically sent from a site to
HEC. I won't say it doesn't happen, but it probably shouldn't. I do think
its safe to say that the AICN xref does not trigger an email to either HEC
or MPI.
Patients usually don't get deleted, which tells me that maybe something
happened to this one via a direct kill. There may be other pointers and
other cross-references in the system still pointing to this patient.
Instead of cleaning up the xref, I'd look first to see if there isn't
missing patient data. Based on what you find, you might prefer instead to
rebuild the patient in DPT.
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
>From my research, the data dictionary for this AICN crossreference states:
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #2 -- PATIENT FILE APR 27,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]:53:44 PAGE
1
STORED IN ^DPT( (VERSION 5.3)
DATA NAME GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE
--
2,991.01 INTEGRATION CONTROL NUMBER MPI;1 NUMBER (audited)
INPUT TRANSFORM:
K:+X'=X!(X>)!(X<0)!(X?.E1"."1N.N)!
('$D(RGRSICN)) X
LAST EDITED: JUL 13, 2001
HELP-PROMPT: This field can only be edited by MPI/PD!
DESCRIPTION:
Machine to machine identifier for a patient.
AUDIT:YES, ALWAYS
NOTES:--CAN'T BE ALTERED EXCEPT BY PROGRAMMER
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AICN
1)= S ^DPT("AICN",$E(X,1,30),DA)=""
2)= K ^DPT("AICN",$E(X,1,30),DA)
This is a non-lookup cross-reference for the
Integration Control Number Field.
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AHICN^MUMPS
1)= Q
2)= I $T(ICN^VAFCHIS)'="" D
ICN^VAFCHIS(X,DA)
Used to create ICN History, ICN lookup
capability.
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AR^MUMPS
1)= I $T(KILL^VAFCMIS)'="" D
KILL^VAFCMIS(DA)
2)= Q
Cross Reference is used to delete the
'AMPIMIS' cross reference denoting missing
ICN.
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AENR99101^MUMPS
1)= D EVENT^IVMPLOG(DA)
2)= D EVENT^IVMPLOG(DA)
3)= DO NOT DELETE
This cross-reference is used to notify HEC
of
changes that may affect enrollment.
Note:
#1 This is a HEC crossreference, and should not be active on an OpenVistA
system since those outside the VA don't deal with the VA's Eligibility
Center.
#2) I'd be hesitant to re-index any of these cross-references, since they
might send an e-mail to the HEC.
#3) The VAFCMIS call updates ^DPT("AMPIMIS",*) which is used by the MPIFVTQ
routine to maintain the Master Patient Index, which is also not something
non-VA sites should have to deal with.
#4) The IVMPLOG routine is part of INCOME VERIFICATION MATCH which is again
not useful to non-VA sites, as they don't do the same Means Test process as
the VA.
#5) I'm going to make sure that these issues are mentioned at the
Developer's meeting in Seattle in two weeks.
>
> Okay, thanks Kevin.
>
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you could use fileman to recreate/reindex that
> > index? I think this option is under the utility
> > option menus.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > >
> > > I'
Re: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
>From my research, the data dictionary for this AICN crossreference states:
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #2 -- PATIENT FILE APR 27,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]:53:44 PAGE 1
STORED IN ^DPT( (VERSION 5.3)
DATA NAME GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE
--
2,991.01 INTEGRATION CONTROL NUMBER MPI;1 NUMBER (audited)
INPUT TRANSFORM: K:+X'=X!(X>)!(X<0)!(X?.E1"."1N.N)!
('$D(RGRSICN)) X
LAST EDITED: JUL 13, 2001
HELP-PROMPT: This field can only be edited by MPI/PD!
DESCRIPTION:
Machine to machine identifier for a patient.
AUDIT:YES, ALWAYS
NOTES:--CAN'T BE ALTERED EXCEPT BY PROGRAMMER
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AICN
1)= S ^DPT("AICN",$E(X,1,30),DA)=""
2)= K ^DPT("AICN",$E(X,1,30),DA)
This is a non-lookup cross-reference for the
Integration Control Number Field.
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AHICN^MUMPS
1)= Q
2)= I $T(ICN^VAFCHIS)'="" D ICN^VAFCHIS(X,DA)
Used to create ICN History, ICN lookup
capability.
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AR^MUMPS
1)= I $T(KILL^VAFCMIS)'="" D KILL^VAFCMIS(DA)
2)= Q
Cross Reference is used to delete the
'AMPIMIS' cross reference denoting missing
ICN.
CROSS-REFERENCE: 2^AENR99101^MUMPS
1)= D EVENT^IVMPLOG(DA)
2)= D EVENT^IVMPLOG(DA)
3)= DO NOT DELETE
This cross-reference is used to notify HEC of
changes that may affect enrollment.
Note:
#1 This is a HEC crossreference, and should not be active on an OpenVistA
system since those outside the VA don't deal with the VA's Eligibility Center.
#2) I'd be hesitant to re-index any of these cross-references, since they
might send an e-mail to the HEC.
#3) The VAFCMIS call updates ^DPT("AMPIMIS",*) which is used by the MPIFVTQ
routine to maintain the Master Patient Index, which is also not something
non-VA sites should have to deal with.
#4) The IVMPLOG routine is part of INCOME VERIFICATION MATCH which is again
not useful to non-VA sites, as they don't do the same Means Test process as
the VA.
#5) I'm going to make sure that these issues are mentioned at the
Developer's meeting in Seattle in two weeks.
>
> Okay, thanks Kevin.
>
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you could use fileman to recreate/reindex that
> > index? I think this option is under the utility
> > option menus.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > >
> > > I've got about 300,000 paients in the active ICN
> > > index. 299,988 have a corresponding 0 node in
> > ^DPT.
> > > I'm running Cache on VMS.
> > >
> > > After further research it appears that the "AICN"
> > > index is outta wack. I'm guessing either something
> > > bombed during the filing process or someone wrote
> > a
> > > buggy one-shot.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Jim,
> > > >
> > > > Do you have any patients in your system? If you
> > > are
> > > > on GTM, what do you see when you type:
> > > > zwr ^DPT(*)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > --- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no
> > > > > ^DPT(DFN,0)
> > > > > entry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this valid or do I have an index out of
> > sync
> > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Okay, thanks Kevin.
--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe you could use fileman to recreate/reindex that
> index? I think this option is under the utility
> option menus.
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > I've got about 300,000 paients in the active ICN
> > index. 299,988 have a corresponding 0 node in
> ^DPT.
> > I'm running Cache on VMS.
> >
> > After further research it appears that the "AICN"
> > index is outta wack. I'm guessing either something
> > bombed during the filing process or someone wrote
> a
> > buggy one-shot.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > Do you have any patients in your system? If you
> > are
> > > on GTM, what do you see when you type:
> > > zwr ^DPT(*)
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no
> > > > ^DPT(DFN,0)
> > > > entry.
> > > >
> > > > Is this valid or do I have an index out of
> sync
> > ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
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> > > > Jim Mumpalito
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Maybe you could use fileman to recreate/reindex that
index? I think this option is under the utility
option menus.
Kevin
--- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> I've got about 300,000 paients in the active ICN
> index. 299,988 have a corresponding 0 node in ^DPT.
> I'm running Cache on VMS.
>
> After further research it appears that the "AICN"
> index is outta wack. I'm guessing either something
> bombed during the filing process or someone wrote a
> buggy one-shot.
>
> thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > Do you have any patients in your system? If you
> are
> > on GTM, what do you see when you type:
> > zwr ^DPT(*)
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no
> > > ^DPT(DFN,0)
> > > entry.
> > >
> > > Is this valid or do I have an index out of sync
> ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jim Mumpalito
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Hi Kevin,
I've got about 300,000 paients in the active ICN
index. 299,988 have a corresponding 0 node in ^DPT.
I'm running Cache on VMS.
After further research it appears that the "AICN"
index is outta wack. I'm guessing either something
bombed during the filing process or someone wrote a
buggy one-shot.
thanks,
Jim
--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Do you have any patients in your system? If you are
> on GTM, what do you see when you type:
> zwr ^DPT(*)
>
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no
> > ^DPT(DFN,0)
> > entry.
> >
> > Is this valid or do I have an index out of sync ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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> >
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> >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Thanks Gary.
--- GARY MONGER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something's wrong. You might also check to see if
> you have anything at
> ^DPT(DFN). The ICN is hanging on ^DPT(DFN,"MPI").
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Jim
> Wheeler
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:48 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no
> ^DPT(DFN,0)
> entry.
>
> Is this valid or do I have an index out of sync ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Mumpalito
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Jim,
Do you have any patients in your system? If you are
on GTM, what do you see when you type:
zwr ^DPT(*)
Kevin
--- Jim Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no
> ^DPT(DFN,0)
> entry.
>
> Is this valid or do I have an index out of sync ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Mumpalito
>
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Something's wrong. You might also check to see if you have anything at
^DPT(DFN). The ICN is hanging on ^DPT(DFN,"MPI").
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Hi,
I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no ^DPT(DFN,0)
entry.
Is this valid or do I have an index out of sync ?
Thanks,
Jim Mumpalito
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[Hardhats-members] Active ICN Index
Hi,
I have a ^DPT("AICN",ICN,DFN) entry but no ^DPT(DFN,0)
entry.
Is this valid or do I have an index out of sync ?
Thanks,
Jim Mumpalito
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