Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
I would just like to amplify Chris' comments on the Scheduling functionality. The key logical datat structures have been defined some time ago in ASTM E-1384 "Structure and Content of the Electronic Health Record" in the context of the Basic Care Scenario with the help of AHIMA the key health record professional discipline; the VA implemnented its module in that context but the role of scheduling in the context of treatment plans is continuing to evolve and include Clinical Orders as associated record data structures. Current VistA needs to be anlyzed in that context and a statement of how the current implemented architecture can develop an evolutionary trajectory to a configuration that serves both VA and non-VA enterprises should be issued. I am currently looking at how to describe these present VistA functions in the context of these EHR standards for the introductory document on VistA for our Biomedical Health Informatics educational program at UW. Such a description would obvious benefit a wide audience if we had much broader general dialog about both the conceptual framework and the use of the implementing technology in describing these capabilities. I'd hope that Mike Ginsburg would engage the various professional disciplines (including AHIMA at their national association level) in open forums on several levels. I'd also hope that the various VistA-interested organizations (including the VA) would be induced into this open discussion on both Content and Implementation-of-Content. Hopefully, those with more direct information can respond with details. Arden W. Forrey PhD Dept of Restorative Dentistry University of Washington School of Dentistry 206-616-1875 Phone 206-543-7783 FAX On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Chris Richardson wrote: Gentle folk; Scheduling is one of the oldest packages in VistA. As such, it needs the most re-engineering. It is a fertile field for a re-write. Use the functionality as it currently stands as a black box of functionality. From there, we can start re-implementing this central piece of the VistA architecture as a modern piece of reusable tools to employ and make the rest of the pieces of VistA stronger and better integrated. Lots of opportunity to shine here and learn about how VistA and the Kernel work. Best wishes; Chris - Original Message - From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality It appear there have been improvements in scheduling since January2005 if the documentation is any guide, so are you sure, Joseph, that it isn't much better than it used to be? The next FOIA to be posted may do the trick. I just checked. The last FOIA posted was Nov 2004. On Wednesday 09 February 2005 06:58 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: What is the context hospital or primary care clinic/outpatient? I would not recomend VistA scheduling if all you want is a scheduling systemthere are other choices that would be better and much easier to implement at this point in time. Joseph Luke Galea wrote: Hi Hardhat members, We are currently evaluating several patient scheduling systems and would like to take a look at the functionality provided by Vista.. I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the online demo provided so I assume that the "module" isn't deployed in that case. I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) but I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting CPRS up and running to eval. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews
Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
The article is wrong. Scheduling is not included in VistA-Office EHR v1.0. Mike Ginsburg Project Manager Iowa Foundation for Medical Care 410-581-2543 - Office 410-419-9371 - Cell >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/09/05 5:52 PM >>> According to this article, scheduling will be part of VistA Office and is being tested. http://www.ihealthbeat.org/index.cfm?Action=dspItem&itemID=107717 For the VAs VistA, there is documentation, some of which has been recently updated, at www.va.gov/vdl then look under Clinical and Scheduling. On Wednesday 09 February 2005 05:05 pm, Luke Galea wrote: > Hi Hardhat members, > > We are currently evaluating several patient scheduling > systems and would like to take a look at the > functionality provided by Vista.. > > I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the > online demo provided so I assume that the "module" > isn't deployed in that case. > > I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) but > I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it > seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting > CPRS up and running to eval. > > Could someone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks in advance > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
Thanks everyone for all your feedback on this! Joseph: Do you have any specific suggestions as to other scheduling systems that might be a better fit? We are a rehabilitation + research hospital in Canada with both inpatient and outpatient programs. Thanks in advance. --- Joseph Dal Molin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the context hospital or primary care > clinic/outpatient? I would > not recomend VistA scheduling if all you want is a > scheduling > systemthere are other choices that would be > better and much easier > to implement at this point in time. > > Joseph > > Luke Galea wrote: > > Hi Hardhat members, > > > > We are currently evaluating several patient > scheduling > > systems and would like to take a look at the > > functionality provided by Vista.. > > > > I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in > the > > online demo provided so I assume that the "module" > > isn't deployed in that case. > > > > I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) > but > > I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as > it > > seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting > > CPRS up and running to eval. > > > > Could someone point me in the right direction? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > __ > > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > --- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > Start reading now. > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > . > > > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
Gentle folk; Scheduling is one of the oldest packages in VistA. As such, it needs the most re-engineering. It is a fertile field for a re-write. Use the functionality as it currently stands as a black box of functionality. From there, we can start re-implementing this central piece of the VistA architecture as a modern piece of reusable tools to employ and make the rest of the pieces of VistA stronger and better integrated. Lots of opportunity to shine here and learn about how VistA and the Kernel work. Best wishes; Chris - Original Message - From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality > It appear there have been improvements in scheduling since January2005 if the > documentation is any guide, so are you sure, Joseph, that it isn't much > better than it used to be? The next FOIA to be posted may do the trick. I > just checked. The last FOIA posted was Nov 2004. > > > On Wednesday 09 February 2005 06:58 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > > What is the context hospital or primary care clinic/outpatient? I would > > not recomend VistA scheduling if all you want is a scheduling > > systemthere are other choices that would be better and much easier > > to implement at this point in time. > > > > Joseph > > > > Luke Galea wrote: > > > Hi Hardhat members, > > > > > > We are currently evaluating several patient scheduling > > > systems and would like to take a look at the > > > functionality provided by Vista.. > > > > > > I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the > > > online demo provided so I assume that the "module" > > > isn't deployed in that case. > > > > > > I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) but > > > I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it > > > seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting > > > CPRS up and running to eval. > > > > > > Could someone point me in the right direction? > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > __ > > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > > --- > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > . > > > > --- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
Luke, Not to be a wet blanket here, but I wasn't impressed with VistA's scheduling module. It text based (not GUI). Also, most offices (I believe) combine scheduling with their billing software. And VistA is insufficient in that area as well. So our office has chosen to use VistA as a medical record package, but not as a practice management package. Hope that helps. Kevin --- Luke Galea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Hardhat members, > > We are currently evaluating several patient > scheduling > systems and would like to take a look at the > functionality provided by Vista.. > > I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the > online demo provided so I assume that the "module" > isn't deployed in that case. > > I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) > but > I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it > seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting > CPRS up and running to eval. > > Could someone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks in advance > > __ > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
It appear there have been improvements in scheduling since January2005 if the documentation is any guide, so are you sure, Joseph, that it isn't much better than it used to be? The next FOIA to be posted may do the trick. I just checked. The last FOIA posted was Nov 2004. On Wednesday 09 February 2005 06:58 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > What is the context hospital or primary care clinic/outpatient? I would > not recomend VistA scheduling if all you want is a scheduling > systemthere are other choices that would be better and much easier > to implement at this point in time. > > Joseph > > Luke Galea wrote: > > Hi Hardhat members, > > > > We are currently evaluating several patient scheduling > > systems and would like to take a look at the > > functionality provided by Vista.. > > > > I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the > > online demo provided so I assume that the "module" > > isn't deployed in that case. > > > > I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) but > > I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it > > seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting > > CPRS up and running to eval. > > > > Could someone point me in the right direction? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > __ > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > > --- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > . > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
What is the context hospital or primary care clinic/outpatient? I would not recomend VistA scheduling if all you want is a scheduling systemthere are other choices that would be better and much easier to implement at this point in time. Joseph Luke Galea wrote: Hi Hardhat members, We are currently evaluating several patient scheduling systems and would like to take a look at the functionality provided by Vista.. I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the online demo provided so I assume that the "module" isn't deployed in that case. I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) but I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting CPRS up and running to eval. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
According to this article, scheduling will be part of VistA Office and is being tested. http://www.ihealthbeat.org/index.cfm?Action=dspItem&itemID=107717 For the VAs VistA, there is documentation, some of which has been recently updated, at www.va.gov/vdl then look under Clinical and Scheduling. On Wednesday 09 February 2005 05:05 pm, Luke Galea wrote: > Hi Hardhat members, > > We are currently evaluating several patient scheduling > systems and would like to take a look at the > functionality provided by Vista.. > > I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the > online demo provided so I assume that the "module" > isn't deployed in that case. > > I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) but > I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it > seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting > CPRS up and running to eval. > > Could someone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks in advance > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Demo of Scheduling Functionality
Hi Hardhat members, We are currently evaluating several patient scheduling systems and would like to take a look at the functionality provided by Vista.. I couldn't find any scheduling functionality in the online demo provided so I assume that the "module" isn't deployed in that case. I've download OpenVistaVivaGold (the knoppix dvd) but I'm not certain that's the easiest way to eval as it seems theres a fair amount of work in just getting CPRS up and running to eval. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
