[Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I want to use tightVNC on my server so that I can do
remote graphical administration.

I can run the server.  Here is a screen log:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
24601 pts/100:00:00 ps
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ vncserver -name vistaserver

New 'vistaserver' desktop is poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2

Starting applications specified in
/home/kdt0p/.vnc/xstartup
Log file is
/home/kdt0p/.vnc/poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2.log

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
24610 pts/100:00:00 Xvnc
24630 pts/100:00:00 gconfd-2
24631 pts/100:00:00 ps
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$

But when I try to connect with a tightVNC viewer from
another computer, I get an error "Failed to connect to
server."

I suspect that my iptables local firewall is blocking
the port.  But how do I determine what port to try to
open?  The TightVNC viewer allows one to specify the
port, but I don't see how to do that on the server
side.

Thanks
Kevin

P.S. is this a security risk?  To use this at home, I
would have to expose that port to the internet.

Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-25 Thread Mark Street
vncserver listens on 5901

That would be vncviewer poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2
supply the password for the server and boom.  Instant INSECURE access.

but why. when you have a secure way of running graphical applications 
tunneled through ssh.

ssh -Xf [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/k3b

You only need 1 hole (port 22) through the firewall with that command, pure 
ssh baby.  We could use port forwarding with SSH to secure VNC.. how 
about we save that for another day.

On Friday 25 March 2005 14:47, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> I want to use tightVNC on my server so that I can do
> remote graphical administration.
>
> I can run the server.  Here is a screen log:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
>   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> 24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
> 24601 pts/100:00:00 ps
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ vncserver -name vistaserver
>
> New 'vistaserver' desktop is poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2
>
> Starting applications specified in
> /home/kdt0p/.vnc/xstartup
> Log file is
> /home/kdt0p/.vnc/poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2.log
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
>   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> 24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
> 24610 pts/100:00:00 Xvnc
> 24630 pts/100:00:00 gconfd-2
> 24631 pts/100:00:00 ps
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$
>
> But when I try to connect with a tightVNC viewer from
> another computer, I get an error "Failed to connect to
> server."
>
> I suspect that my iptables local firewall is blocking
> the port.  But how do I determine what port to try to
> open?  The TightVNC viewer allows one to specify the
> port, but I don't see how to do that on the server
> side.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
> P.S. is this a security risk?  To use this at home, I
> would have to expose that port to the internet.
>
> Kevin
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Mark,

Is tightVNC also a security risk?  Does it use the
same port?  I think i may have been runing vnc server,
and tightvnc viewer.  I assume these are different?

Of note, when I ran the apt-get, the first thing it
did was to uninstall my "obsolete" vnc.

I have done X forwarding before, and it was quite
painful.  In kate, I would press Ctrl-F for find, and
then wait 10-15 seconds for the dialog box to draw. 
And I have high-speed internet on both ends.

Also, I was hoping to use my desktop with all its
icons etc. and also the startmenu.  I hate having to
remember the path and name of all the apps I want to
run.

Kevin


--- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> vncserver listens on 5901
> 
> That would be vncviewer poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2
> supply the password for the server and boom. 
> Instant INSECURE access.
> 
> but why. when you have a secure way of running
> graphical applications 
> tunneled through ssh.
> 
> ssh -Xf [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/k3b
> 
> You only need 1 hole (port 22) through the firewall
> with that command, pure 
> ssh baby.  We could use port forwarding with SSH to
> secure VNC.. how 
> about we save that for another day.
> 
> On Friday 25 March 2005 14:47, Kevin Toppenberg
> wrote:
> > I want to use tightVNC on my server so that I can
> do
> > remote graphical administration.
> >
> > I can run the server.  Here is a screen log:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
> >   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> > 24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
> > 24601 pts/100:00:00 ps
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ vncserver -name vistaserver
> >
> > New 'vistaserver' desktop is
> poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2
> >
> > Starting applications specified in
> > /home/kdt0p/.vnc/xstartup
> > Log file is
> > /home/kdt0p/.vnc/poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2.log
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
> >   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> > 24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
> > 24610 pts/100:00:00 Xvnc
> > 24630 pts/100:00:00 gconfd-2
> > 24631 pts/100:00:00 ps
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$
> >
> > But when I try to connect with a tightVNC viewer
> from
> > another computer, I get an error "Failed to
> connect to
> > server."
> >
> > I suspect that my iptables local firewall is
> blocking
> > the port.  But how do I determine what port to try
> to
> > open?  The TightVNC viewer allows one to specify
> the
> > port, but I don't see how to do that on the server
> > side.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> > P.S. is this a security risk?  To use this at
> home, I
> > would have to expose that port to the internet.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
In 9/2003 I was having a mighty struggle with VNC and at the end I wrote up a 
document describing the solution to my problems.  I am sending it to you in 
hopes it helps.  Since it has been 2 years, the problems may be totally 
different, but one can hope ...

Both VNC and TIght VNC are security risks - or were, but this document 
includes port forwarding instructions for Windows to Linux.

On Friday 25 March 2005 08:16 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Is tightVNC also a security risk?  Does it use the
> same port?  I think i may have been runing vnc server,
> and tightvnc viewer.  I assume these are different?
>
> Of note, when I ran the apt-get, the first thing it
> did was to uninstall my "obsolete" vnc.
>
> I have done X forwarding before, and it was quite
> painful.  In kate, I would press Ctrl-F for find, and
> then wait 10-15 seconds for the dialog box to draw.
> And I have high-speed internet on both ends.
>
> Also, I was hoping to use my desktop with all its
> icons etc. and also the startmenu.  I hate having to
> remember the path and name of all the apps I want to
> run.
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > vncserver listens on 5901
> >
> > That would be vncviewer poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2
> > supply the password for the server and boom.
> > Instant INSECURE access.
> >
> > but why. when you have a secure way of running
> > graphical applications
> > tunneled through ssh.
> >
> > ssh -Xf [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/k3b
> >
> > You only need 1 hole (port 22) through the firewall
> > with that command, pure
> > ssh baby.  We could use port forwarding with SSH to
> > secure VNC.. how
> > about we save that for another day.
> >
> > On Friday 25 March 2005 14:47, Kevin Toppenberg
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I want to use tightVNC on my server so that I can
> >
> > do
> >
> > > remote graphical administration.
> > >
> > > I can run the server.  Here is a screen log:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
> > >   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> > > 24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
> > > 24601 pts/100:00:00 ps
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ vncserver -name vistaserver
> > >
> > > New 'vistaserver' desktop is
> >
> > poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2
> >
> > > Starting applications specified in
> > > /home/kdt0p/.vnc/xstartup
> > > Log file is
> > > /home/kdt0p/.vnc/poweredge.tmedgroup.com:2.log
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ps
> > >   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> > > 24453 pts/100:00:00 bash
> > > 24610 pts/100:00:00 Xvnc
> > > 24630 pts/100:00:00 gconfd-2
> > > 24631 pts/100:00:00 ps
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$
> > >
> > > But when I try to connect with a tightVNC viewer
> >
> > from
> >
> > > another computer, I get an error "Failed to
> >
> > connect to
> >
> > > server."
> > >
> > > I suspect that my iptables local firewall is
> >
> > blocking
> >
> > > the port.  But how do I determine what port to try
> >
> > to
> >
> > > open?  The TightVNC viewer allows one to specify
> >
> > the
> >
> > > port, but I don't see how to do that on the server
> > > side.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > P.S. is this a security risk?  To use this at
> >
> > home, I
> >
> > > would have to expose that port to the internet.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-25 Thread Mark Street
A quick google brought this up.

http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html


On Friday 25 March 2005 17:16, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Is tightVNC also a security risk?  Does it use the
> same port?  I think i may have been runing vnc server,
> and tightvnc viewer.  I assume these are different?

Same animal, different flavor, both are INsecure.  Tight has extra compression 
algorithms for bitmaps to improve performance over slow links.

> Of note, when I ran the apt-get, the first thing it
> did was to uninstall my "obsolete" vnc.
>
> I have done X forwarding before, and it was quite
> painful.  In kate, I would press Ctrl-F for find, and
> then wait 10-15 seconds for the dialog box to draw.
> And I have high-speed internet on both ends.
>
> Also, I was hoping to use my desktop with all its
> icons etc. and also the startmenu.  I hate having to
> remember the path and name of all the apps I want to
> run.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-26 Thread pat
Mark, Kevin and All
I have been using SSH/VNC for a couple of years now. It allows me to 
look at my home box from work. The article about VNC over SSH should 
help. Let me knpow if you need any other assistance..
Right now I am experimenting with NoMachine. In fact I am using the 
application to write this e-mail ont my worksation in the basement from 
my lap top at the dinning room table. On my home network it's very 
speedy, I don't notice any lag. There was a bit at work tho, not as much 
with VNC however. I wasn't able to start up PlaneShift, an OSS MMPORPG, 
but I think I can do with out that :-).

Information on NoMachine here: www.nomachine.com
Per the information from their site and the Linux Format article that 
led me to it, the server can be set up to:
Share files and printers
Connect to Windows RDP sessions
Connect to Linux VNC sessions
As well as deliver a unix/linux GUI desktop.

Pat
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-28 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Pat,

Thanks.  With your help and Mark's, I got this
working.  It's great!

Kevin

--- pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark, Kevin and All
> 
> I have been using SSH/VNC for a couple of years now.
> It allows me to 
> look at my home box from work. The article about VNC
> over SSH should 
> help. Let me knpow if you need any other
> assistance..
> Right now I am experimenting with NoMachine. In fact
> I am using the 
> application to write this e-mail ont my worksation
> in the basement from 
> my lap top at the dinning room table. On my home
> network it's very 
> speedy, I don't notice any lag. There was a bit at
> work tho, not as much 
> with VNC however. I wasn't able to start up
> PlaneShift, an OSS MMPORPG, 
> but I think I can do with out that :-).
> 
> Information on NoMachine here: www.nomachine.com
> 
> Per the information from their site and the Linux
> Format article that 
> led me to it, the server can be set up to:
> Share files and printers
> Connect to Windows RDP sessions
> Connect to Linux VNC sessions
> As well as deliver a unix/linux GUI desktop.
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help setting up tightVNC server

2005-03-28 Thread pat
Kevin,
Glad to help.
Good to know I have something to contribute
Pat
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