Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
On 3/2/06, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oops. Sorry. I wasn't paying close enough attention. > > > > I guess I don't understand what you are after. If it is a good > > editor, then just configure your system to call an editor in the OS. > > If you are on linux, I can help you make joe, vim etc to launch > > instead of the clunky VistA editor. > > > > But from that last post, it looked like you wanted something that > > would put boxes on the screen etc. The ^XGF functions should do > > that. > > > > So what is missing? > > > > Kevin > > > The problem is that there's no obvious way to run a shell in a window > managed by XGF (a cterm?) I suppose you could do it if you wanted to, > but it would take some work. Basically, you'd have to collect input to > the window, pass it on to Linux, run the command, and display the > ouput. Running a curses based application like vim could be a real challenge. > I think we are talking past one another. I didn't say anything about running a shell in a window managed by XGF. But regarding the external editor, I have posted about this before (indeed I think my code is on the wikki), about the taking the VistA data, saving it to a temp file, calling the editor, then getting the changes back from the file. I have been using this for about a 6-12 months without a hitch. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
On 3/2/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think doing anything with OS shells and non-VistA distributed > solutions would fly for any type of releasable software. I disagree. The system is exactly designed to make use of external editors. In the NEW PERSON file, there is a PREFERRED EDITOR (31.3) field that specifies if the user wants to use an editor other than the usual one. There is pre and post code hooks. It is all set up to use an external editor. > > I have about 70% of my custom editor code (using ^XGF calls) working. I > just didn't want to find out later that there was a VistA API floating > around that would have done what I wanted. That is impressive, and I appreciate what you have done. But why re-invent the wheel? Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
I don't think doing anything with OS shells and non-VistA distributed solutions would fly for any type of releasable software. I have about 70% of my custom editor code (using ^XGF calls) working. I just didn't want to find out later that there was a VistA API floating around that would have done what I wanted. At 05:57 PM 3/2/2006, Greg wrote: The problem is that there's no obvious way to run a shell in a window managed by XGF (a cterm?) I suppose you could do it if you wanted to, but it would take some work. Basically, you'd have to collect input to the window, pass it on to Linux, run the command, and display the ouput. Running a curses based application like vim could be a real challenge. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oops. Sorry. I wasn't paying close enough attention. > > I guess I don't understand what you are after. If it is a good > editor, then just configure your system to call an editor in the OS. > If you are on linux, I can help you make joe, vim etc to launch > instead of the clunky VistA editor. > > But from that last post, it looked like you wanted something that > would put boxes on the screen etc. The ^XGF functions should do > that. > > So what is missing? > > Kevin The problem is that there's no obvious way to run a shell in a window managed by XGF (a cterm?) I suppose you could do it if you wanted to, but it would take some work. Basically, you'd have to collect input to the window, pass it on to Linux, run the command, and display the ouput. Running a curses based application like vim could be a real challenge. === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." --Arthur Schopenhauer --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
Oops. Sorry. I wasn't paying close enough attention. I guess I don't understand what you are after. If it is a good editor, then just configure your system to call an editor in the OS. If you are on linux, I can help you make joe, vim etc to launch instead of the clunky VistA editor. But from that last post, it looked like you wanted something that would put boxes on the screen etc. The ^XGF functions should do that. So what is missing? Kevin On 3/2/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've already examined those (that's why the original message included > "similar to WIN^XGF but that functions like a text editor?"). > > At 12:58 PM 3/2/2006, Kevin wrote: > >Look in the Kernel programmer's manual at the XGF functions: > > > >XGF Function Library > > > >CHGA^XGF Screen Change Attributes > >CLEAN^XGF Screen/Keyboard Exit and Cleanup > >CLEAR^XGF Screen Clear Region > >FRAME^XGF Screen Frame > >INITKB^XGF Keyboard Setup Only > >IOXY^XGF Screen Cursor Placement > >PREP^XGF Screen/Keyboard Setup > >$$READ^XGF Read Using Escape Processing > >RESETKB^XGF Exit XGF Keyboard > >RESTORE^XGF Screen Restore > >SAVE^XGF Screen Save > >SAY^XGF Screen String > >SAYU^XGF Screen String with Attributes > >SETA^XGF Screen Video Attributes > >WIN^XGF Screen Text Window > > > >Kevin > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
I've already examined those (that's why the original message included "similar to WIN^XGF but that functions like a text editor?"). At 12:58 PM 3/2/2006, Kevin wrote: Look in the Kernel programmer's manual at the XGF functions: XGF Function Library CHGA^XGF Screen Change Attributes CLEAN^XGF Screen/Keyboard Exit and Cleanup CLEAR^XGF Screen Clear Region FRAME^XGF Screen Frame INITKB^XGF Keyboard Setup Only IOXY^XGF Screen Cursor Placement PREP^XGF Screen/Keyboard Setup $$READ^XGF Read Using Escape Processing RESETKB^XGF Exit XGF Keyboard RESTORE^XGF Screen Restore SAVE^XGF Screen Save SAY^XGF Screen String SAYU^XGF Screen String with Attributes SETA^XGF Screen Video Attributes WIN^XGF Screen Text Window Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
I mean a method of programatically reusing elements of VPE in my own programming. For example, Windows provides an object that looks like a text window. You can add text on various lines, and then scroll it up and down. VPE seems to have a similar function. When you show a global, for example, it copies the global into a scrollable area. I want to have a documented method of using that. Kevin On 2/28/06, Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not sure what you mean by "API for the functions in VPE". I have the > VPE applications in the (tools) menu system using the ScreenMan editor. Is > there something else you want? What kind of function should we expect from > API? Agree the text editor is sort of clunky, though it will interface with > spell check - which I am not using. > > Thanks, > > thurman > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg > > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:27 PM > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API > > > > Isn't there a text editor built into vista (although it is clunk in my > > opinion). > > > > I have wished we could develop an API for the functions in VPE. From > > what I could see, he wrote fairly modular code--so an interface should > > be possible > > > > Kevin > > > > > > On 2/28/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is there a VistA API that will create a CHUI scrollable window similar > > to > > > WIN^XGF but that functions like a text editor? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > > language > > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > > webcast > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > > territory! > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > > webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > > territory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
Look in the Kernel programmer's manual at the XGF functions: XGF Function Library CHGA^XGF Screen Change Attributes CLEAN^XGF Screen/Keyboard Exit and Cleanup CLEAR^XGF Screen Clear Region FRAME^XGF Screen Frame INITKB^XGF Keyboard Setup Only IOXY^XGF Screen Cursor Placement PREP^XGF Screen/Keyboard Setup $$READ^XGF Read Using Escape Processing RESETKB^XGF Exit XGF Keyboard RESTORE^XGF Screen Restore SAVE^XGF Screen Save SAY^XGF Screen String SAYU^XGF Screen String with Attributes SETA^XGF Screen Video Attributes WIN^XGF Screen Text Window Kevin On 3/1/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the behavior I want (copy and paste into notepad): > > MAIN WINDOW== > | | > | | > | | > | SECOND WINDOW== | > | | This is my text that I | | > | | edit. | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | === | > | | > | | > | | > = > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
This is the behavior I want (copy and paste into notepad): MAIN WINDOW== | | | | | | | SECOND WINDOW== | | | This is my text that I | | | | edit. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | === | | | | | | | = --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
There is a line editor too: CLUNK * 1000! I worked for the VA for 5 years before I found out it could be changed! Dan wrote: As far as I know that editor is full screen only. At 06:26 PM 2/28/2006, you wrote: Isn't there a text editor built into vista (although it is clunk in my opinion). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
As far as I know that editor is full screen only. At 06:26 PM 2/28/2006, you wrote: Isn't there a text editor built into vista (although it is clunk in my opinion). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
I am not sure what you mean by "API for the functions in VPE". I have the VPE applications in the (tools) menu system using the ScreenMan editor. Is there something else you want? What kind of function should we expect from API? Agree the text editor is sort of clunky, though it will interface with spell check - which I am not using. Thanks, thurman > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:27 PM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API > > Isn't there a text editor built into vista (although it is clunk in my > opinion). > > I have wished we could develop an API for the functions in VPE. From > what I could see, he wrote fairly modular code--so an interface should > be possible > > Kevin > > > On 2/28/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a VistA API that will create a CHUI scrollable window similar > to > > WIN^XGF but that functions like a text editor? > > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
Isn't there a text editor built into vista (although it is clunk in my opinion). I have wished we could develop an API for the functions in VPE. From what I could see, he wrote fairly modular code--so an interface should be possible Kevin On 2/28/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a VistA API that will create a CHUI scrollable window similar to > WIN^XGF but that functions like a text editor? > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
As far as I know browser only lets you view data not edit it. Also I don't believe you can control the window size or placement (like you can with WIN^XGF). At 11:00 AM 2/28/2006, Greg wrote: --- Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a VistA API that will create a CHUI scrollable window > similar to > WIN^XGF but that functions like a text editor? > > There's always the Fileman browser, or do I misunderstand what you're looking for? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CHUI scrollable window API
--- Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a VistA API that will create a CHUI scrollable window > similar to > WIN^XGF but that functions like a text editor? > > There's always the Fileman browser, or do I misunderstand what you're looking for? === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." --Arthur Schopenhauer --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
