RE: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
Would there be some interest in adding such a capability to our OpenVistA forum? Those who wish could submit an application and be assigned an official slot in the INSTITUTION file. Perhaps a topic for Boston? A step toward update distributions, KIDS, etc? jlz -- Original Message --- From: "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:21:05 -0500 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file? > > ... For the VHA, the Institution file is now updated at the > central FORUM database and the updates are 'pushed' to all sites. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
It may be that the Institution file update is of little interest to non-VA users (but then again, maybe it is). But more generally, is there a need to update reference files from a master file? I would think that the answer is yes. --- "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin, > >The XUMF variable (ie. secret 'M'aster 'F'ile password) was added > about 3 or 4 years ago during the Institution File Redesign project. > Prior to that, all sites edited/updated their Institution file > manually. > As you can imagine, this led to a lot of inconsistencies between > sites > due to typos, local spelling preferences, missing entries, etc. For > the > VHA, the Institution file is now updated at the central FORUM > database > and the updates are 'pushed' to all sites. >Since you would not be in the same situation as the VHA > (controlling > 100+ copies of an important file that has moderately frequent > updates), > the control mechanism could be bypassed as you have already done or > you > could modify the DD to remove just the part that checks for XUMF. > I'm > not sure why one distributed copy had the check and one did not but > without the "push" software and a central database there is no need > for > the internal control mechanism. > > Thom H. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Kevin > Toppenberg > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:41 PM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on > STATION > field in INSTITUTION file? > > OK Thanks. But this is apparently a new change. > > Kevin > > --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My guess is that XUMF is an override that is set > > when file 4 is sbeing > > updated via an HL7 master file update. It's not > > something that should > > be set (except by Kernel). > > > ... > > > > __ > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
Thanks, that helps. I followed Nancy's guide to checking the fileman version, and it looks like mine might be as old as 1998. So that is probably why I didn't have this problem. I appreciate the info. It helps to understand what's going on. Kevin --- "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin, > >The XUMF variable (ie. secret 'M'aster 'F'ile > password) was added > about 3 or 4 years ago during the Institution File > Redesign project. > Prior to that, all sites edited/updated their > Institution file manually. > As you can imagine, this led to a lot of > inconsistencies between sites > due to typos, local spelling preferences, missing > entries, etc. For the > VHA, the Institution file is now updated at the > central FORUM database > and the updates are 'pushed' to all sites. >Since you would not be in the same situation as > the VHA (controlling > 100+ copies of an important file that has moderately > frequent updates), > the control mechanism could be bypassed as you have > already done or you > could modify the DD to remove just the part that > checks for XUMF. I'm > not sure why one distributed copy had the check and > one did not but > without the "push" software and a central database > there is no need for > the internal control mechanism. > > Thom H. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kevin > Toppenberg > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:41 PM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input > transform on STATION > field in INSTITUTION file? > > OK Thanks. But this is apparently a new change. > > Kevin > > --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My guess is that XUMF is an override that is set > > when file 4 is sbeing > > updated via an HL7 master file update. It's not > > something that should > > be set (except by Kernel). > > > ... > > > > __ > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. > Join the fun. > http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free > today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free > today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
Kevin, The XUMF variable (ie. secret 'M'aster 'F'ile password) was added about 3 or 4 years ago during the Institution File Redesign project. Prior to that, all sites edited/updated their Institution file manually. As you can imagine, this led to a lot of inconsistencies between sites due to typos, local spelling preferences, missing entries, etc. For the VHA, the Institution file is now updated at the central FORUM database and the updates are 'pushed' to all sites. Since you would not be in the same situation as the VHA (controlling 100+ copies of an important file that has moderately frequent updates), the control mechanism could be bypassed as you have already done or you could modify the DD to remove just the part that checks for XUMF. I'm not sure why one distributed copy had the check and one did not but without the "push" software and a central database there is no need for the internal control mechanism. Thom H. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:41 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file? OK Thanks. But this is apparently a new change. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My guess is that XUMF is an override that is set > when file 4 is sbeing > updated via an HL7 master file update. It's not > something that should > be set (except by Kernel). > ... __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
Yes, it is. --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK Thanks. But this is apparently a new change. > > Kevin > > --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My guess is that XUMF is an override that is set > > when file 4 is sbeing > > updated via an HL7 master file update. It's not > > something that should > > be set (except by Kernel). > > > ... > > > > __ > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
OK Thanks. But this is apparently a new change. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My guess is that XUMF is an override that is set > when file 4 is sbeing > updated via an HL7 master file update. It's not > something that should > be set (except by Kernel). > ... __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
My guess is that XUMF is an override that is set when file 4 is sbeing updated via an HL7 master file update. It's not something that should be set (except by Kernel). --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been working on Mark's computer to test my > install program. I have hit an unexpected bump. > > The vista data from his latest FOIA 2005 vista has a > different input transform on the STATION field in the > INSTITUTION file, compared to my older system. > > Mine: > FIELD NAME: STATION NUMBER > > FLD NUMBER: 99 FLD TITLE: > NODE;PIECE: 99;1 HELP FRAME: > > ACCESS: RD:DEL:WR: > >DATA TYPE: Free Text > Input Transform has been modified > in Utility Option > > INPUT TRANSFORM: K:$L(X)>7!($L(X)<3)!'(X?3N.AN) X > > PROMPT MESSAGE: No local station numbers allowed! > > DESCRIPTION: This is the 3 digit station number > plus any modifiers. > > > > Mark's: > 4,99 STATION NUMBER 99;1 FREE TEXT > > INPUT TRANSFORM: > K:$L(X)>7!($L(X)<3)!'(X?3N.AN) X Q:$G(XUMF) K > X > LAST EDITED: MAY 18, 2001 > HELP-PROMPT: No local station > numbers allowed! > DESCRIPTION: This is the 3 digit > station number plus any > modifiers. > > GROUP:RUPP > NOTES:--CAN'T BE ALTERED > EXCEPT BY PROGRAMMER > > > > When I pass this to UPDATE^DIE > > TMGFDA(*) > }~4 >}~+1, > }~.01 = Medical Group of Greeneville > }~.02 = TENNESSEE > }~.05 = The Medical Group (TMG) > }~.06 = OC-IND > }~1.03 = Greeneville > }~1.04 = 37745 > }~13 = OC > }~60 = tmedgroup.com > }~95 = OTHER > }~99 = 777 > > I get this error: > ErrMsg(*) > }~DIERR = 1^1 >}~1 = 701 >| }~PARAM >| | }~0 = 3 >| | }~3 = 777 >| | }~FIELD = 99 >| | }~FILE = 4 >| | >| }~TEXT >| }~1 = The value '777' for field STATION NUMBER > in file INSTITUTION is not valid. >| >| >}~E >}~701 >}~1 = > > > It looks like the variable XUMF needs to >0 for this > to succeed. > > How is XUMF used? Can I just set it? Is this a > universal change? > > Thanks > Kevin > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?
I just set XUMF=1 and it worked. But I wonder why this was put in, and when and where. Kevin --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been working on Mark's computer to test my > install program. I have hit an unexpected bump. > > The vista data from his latest FOIA 2005 vista has a > different input transform on the STATION field in > the > INSTITUTION file, compared to my older system. > > Mine: > FIELD NAME: STATION NUMBER > > FLD NUMBER: 99 FLD TITLE: > NODE;PIECE: 99;1 HELP FRAME: > > ACCESS: RD:DEL:WR: > >DATA TYPE: Free Text > Input Transform has been > modified > in Utility Option > > INPUT TRANSFORM: K:$L(X)>7!($L(X)<3)!'(X?3N.AN) X > > PROMPT MESSAGE: No local station numbers > allowed! > > DESCRIPTION: This is the 3 digit station > number > plus any modifiers. > > > > Mark's: > 4,99 STATION NUMBER 99;1 FREE TEXT > > INPUT TRANSFORM: > K:$L(X)>7!($L(X)<3)!'(X?3N.AN) X Q:$G(XUMF) K > X > LAST EDITED: MAY 18, 2001 > HELP-PROMPT: No local station > numbers allowed! > DESCRIPTION: This is the 3 digit > station number plus any > modifiers. > > GROUP:RUPP > NOTES:--CAN'T BE > ALTERED > EXCEPT BY PROGRAMMER > > > > When I pass this to UPDATE^DIE > > TMGFDA(*) > }~4 >}~+1, > }~.01 = Medical Group of Greeneville > }~.02 = TENNESSEE > }~.05 = The Medical Group (TMG) > }~.06 = OC-IND > }~1.03 = Greeneville > }~1.04 = 37745 > }~13 = OC > }~60 = tmedgroup.com > }~95 = OTHER > }~99 = 777 > > I get this error: > ErrMsg(*) > }~DIERR = 1^1 >}~1 = 701 >| }~PARAM >| | }~0 = 3 >| | }~3 = 777 >| | }~FIELD = 99 >| | }~FILE = 4 >| | >| }~TEXT >| }~1 = The value '777' for field STATION > NUMBER > in file INSTITUTION is not valid. >| >| >}~E >}~701 >}~1 = > > > It looks like the variable XUMF needs to >0 for this > to succeed. > > How is XUMF used? Can I just set it? Is this a > universal change? > > Thanks > Kevin > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free > today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
