Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: perhaps we should have an introduce yourself week? I disagree with the idea that people need to feel pressured into announcing their presence or into saying more than the feel comfortable doing. That's fine for informal discussion groups (on lists I've run in the past I've asked -- meaning encouraged -- people to introduce themselves when they first post.) but I don't think it is appropriate for professional groups like Hardhats or WorldVistA. if people just want to read, that should be their choice, and certainly no one should feel pressured into posting to the Wiki. I do not know how you want to run your organization, but ACM (for example) has meetings, SIGs, journals, and a variety of mailing lists. Or to take an example that is perhaps closer to home (though it really shouldn't be), I occasionally participate in HL7 working group meetings and calls (particularly in what used to be called Control/Query) and sometimes post to the appropriate mailing lists, but I would NOT feel comfortable broadcasting messages to the whole organization, or to jumping into a discussion that is really outside my area of expertise. How Hardhats and WorldVistA choose to run their respective organizations is really a topic for a separate discussion, but please don't make people feel obliged to introduce themselves. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking. -- Albert Einstein --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
Have you considered other alternatives? Since most abusers probably run bots to do their bidding, why not try using is a person there test such as the popular type the code that appears in the graphic below. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
I agree that I do not feel we should throw up any potential barriers for folks who are just kicking the tires. If we do offer a way to introduce oneself if desired, we probably need to think about it carefully. If we don't, we might end up providing a spot for a few elaborate advertisements among the usual introductory posts. On Friday 24 March 2006 08:14, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: perhaps we should have an introduce yourself week? I disagree with the idea that people need to feel pressured into announcing their presence or into saying more than the feel comfortable doing. That's fine for informal discussion groups (on lists I've run in the past I've asked -- meaning encouraged -- people to introduce themselves when they first post.) but I don't think it is appropriate for professional groups like Hardhats or WorldVistA. if people just want to read, that should be their choice, and certainly no one should feel pressured into posting to the Wiki. I do not know how you want to run your organization, but ACM (for example) has meetings, SIGs, journals, and a variety of mailing lists. Or to take an example that is perhaps closer to home (though it really shouldn't be), I occasionally participate in HL7 working group meetings and calls (particularly in what used to be called Control/Query) and sometimes post to the appropriate mailing lists, but I would NOT feel comfortable broadcasting messages to the whole organization, or to jumping into a discussion that is really outside my area of expertise. How Hardhats and WorldVistA choose to run their respective organizations is really a topic for a separate discussion, but please don't make people feel obliged to introduce themselves. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking. -- Albert Einstein --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 08:56, Dan wrote: Have you considered other alternatives? Since most abusers probably run bots to do their bidding, why not try using is a person there test such as the popular type the code that appears in the graphic below. Thats a PIA to code up. Ruben --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 08:52, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Greg, No pressure intended at allthe wording and intent of my suggestion was that it be purely voluntary. I think it is about time we ***all*** found out who this Greg Woodhouse person is. I mean really... who has the name of Wood House?!? Next you'll tell me that your name is Cement Mixer or Paper Doll! Hah! Please do not assume I was speaking for any organizationI wasn't, just myself, who also appreciates anonyimity. When I post on to public list like this one representing an organization and not myself I clearly indicate it in my posts. WorldVistA is just one of 3 organizations I am involved with in the open source/software world. Joseph Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: perhaps we should have an introduce yourself week? I disagree with the idea that people need to feel pressured into announcing their presence or into saying more than the feel comfortable doing. That's fine for informal discussion groups (on lists I've run in the past I've asked -- meaning encouraged -- people to introduce themselves when they first post.) but I don't think it is appropriate for professional groups like Hardhats or WorldVistA. if people just want to read, that should be their choice, and certainly no one should feel pressured into posting to the Wiki. I do not know how you want to run your organization, but ACM (for example) has meetings, SIGs, journals, and a variety of mailing lists. Or to take an example that is perhaps closer to home (though it really shouldn't be), I occasionally participate in HL7 working group meetings and calls (particularly in what used to be called Control/Query) and sometimes post to the appropriate mailing lists, but I would NOT feel comfortable broadcasting messages to the whole organization, or to jumping into a discussion that is really outside my area of expertise. How Hardhats and WorldVistA choose to run their respective organizations is really a topic for a separate discussion, but please don't make people feel obliged to introduce themselves. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking. -- Albert Einstein --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
On mailing lists that I administer, unless I recognize the e-mail address, I always write asking the respondent to confirm that they are a real human being and not a 'bot. Someday, there will be an AI 'bot that will defeat my procedure, but it seems to have worked so far. -- Bhaskar Dan wrote: Have you considered other alternatives? Since most abusers probably run bots to do their bidding, why not try using is a person there test such as the popular type the code that appears in the graphic below. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
Wasn't any big deal when I coded one in Java/JSP. Any popular Wiki software should probably have it as a built in option or there's probably a 3rd party plugin. At 09:29 AM 3/24/2006, Ruben wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 08:56, Dan wrote: Have you considered other alternatives? Since most abusers probably run bots to do their bidding, why not try using is a person there test such as the popular type the code that appears in the graphic below. Thats a PIA to code up. Ruben --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
Vote read free/ managed manipulate thurman --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable. I don't see any much advantage to making requirements to read - it seems rather a disservice. William - Original Message - From: Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 24 March 2006 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable That is my preference. The issue of know who your neighbours are is an important one when considering how to maximize collaboration etc. There are I believe over 500 people on this list now. How to do this is another questionon another list I belong to each person that posts has a short bio (couple of sentences) automatically added to their postbut that isn't helpful if one posts infrequentlyperhaps we should have an introduce yourself week? Joseph Matthew King wrote: I vote the same. I lurked around the site for quite a while before I felt comfortable registering; probably because I'm a lot less technically trained than everyone else. But I am the main driver toward using VistA in our community health center. We have a lot of other CHCs in the state watching us. Matthew M. King, MD Medical Director Clinica Adelante, Inc Surprise, Arizona 85374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Toppenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy On 3/23/06, Mike Schrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable, but I wouldn't terribly mind logging in to a GatedAccess system (However, I'm still waiting for my user ID). I am for this too, but the registration process might be an issue. What will prevent spammers from registering. And if all registration requires your personal attention, then perhaps people like Mike may get frustrated. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable, but I wouldn't terribly mind logging in to a GatedAccess system (However, I'm still waiting for my user ID). Mike Schrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the request of several people in our VistA Community, I am asking for discussion of the issue of whether the OpenForum Wiki should be GatedAccess or GatedWriteable. As the administrator of the Wiki, I was nominated to bring this discussion up as a topic on HardHats. As a HardHats volunteer, I am not clear if this is beyond the purview of the agreement between WorldVistA and Hardhats that VistA related discussions would be best served by a unified mailing list. I would ask the indulgence of the participants in this list to allow a brief (perhaps 2 days) discussion of this topic, as the wiki is an important resource to the community, and it is difficult to hear the views of the broad community as it only has a limited number of active communication channels, an important one of which is this mailing list. To start with, I would like to provide some context. The wiki at http://openforum.worldvista.org/wiki uses the MediaWiki code base, developed originally to support Wikipedia. (PHP and MSQL technology) We initially tried to have a OpenWriteable wiki, but ran into multiple abuses of the wiki by spammers and others who were intending to raise their google rank by exploiting our good will. (if they are referenced by a site of high reputation, such as our wiki, their ranking will rise) There was a discussion on the Friday conference call last month, during which the participants suggested we should have a GatedAccess Wiki. In other words, only those who have accounts on the wiki would be allowed to edit, read, or in any way interact with the wiki. For those who have access to the DVA FORUM system, this the same model used there. Recently, there has been some discussion that the consensus on the conference call does not reflect the consensus of the greater VistA Community. It has been suggested that in contrast to our current policy, that we should have only a GatedWritable wiki policy where accounts are needed to modify or administer the wiki, but where an AnonymousReadOnly policy would allow everyone who is interested to access the documentation on the wiki. The Pros for GatedAccess: GatedAccess allows strengthening the community of people who are using the wiki, by providing names or handles that people can use to communicate. The closed nature of the wiki would require those who want to be a part of the wiki system to identify themselves, allowing a larger sense of how many people are in the community. The small number of active participants on Hardhats might tempt outsiders to characterize the community as being significantly smaller than it actually is. The large number of lurkers on hardhats is not apparent to anyone other than the mailing list administrators, thus allowing detractors to say the VistA community is a fringe group and thus can be easily marginalized. Asking for an login name on the wiki could be a signicant way for a small business to express their interest and advertise their existence. Another argument is that the VistA codebase/database is so large that without help, it is almost impossible to gain traction in looking at the technology. Public acknowledgement of interest would allow the VistA community to do a better job supporting those who are interested, and keep them from wasting time researching information that is easily available from our community experts. The Pros for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable: AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable allows those who are lurking or only evaluating the VistA system to do so without making the commitment of asking for a name on the wiki. It is not clear how many people research VistA before making a commitment to reveal their interest in any public way. The try before you fly option would allow a broader availability of information to anyone who wants to evaluate VistA or share information collected by the community. Issues regarding the size of the communty might be better addressed by attatching a hit-count to the web pages, that would indicate the number of people who visit that page. Perhaps some log-analysis tools could be used to reveal aggregate information about the number of different addresses who accessed the pages. The commitment to open processes, open code, and open documentation of the WorldVistA organization on behalf of the VistA community would be reflected in using the AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable model for the WorldVistA OpenForum wiki. The Pros for AnonymousReadOnly/AnonymousWriteable: The issue of spam and the heavy load of volunteer effort to reduce spam is such that the original policy of AnonymousReadOnly/AnonymousWriteable is not really acceptable. Volunteer effort would be better leveraged in making the content of the Wiki better, rather than keeping vandals from abusing the wiki. So this is the
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
David already knows that I am unequivocally for the AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable policy and strongly oppose the alternative. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
--- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David already knows that I am unequivocally for the AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable policy and strongly oppose the alternative. What is the purpose of the Wiki? If it is documentation, then requiring registration merely to read the content seems inconsistent with an open source project. On the other hand, there is no reason why everyone should be a committer (to borrow a term from CVS or SVN). If it is a discussion forum, then the considerations may be a bit different, but I still think open access is the right course. To be honest, it's not at all clear to me what is to be gained by requiring people to register to read the Wiki. Is it simply encouraging people to register? If so, a carrot may be better than a stick. Tell people what they have to gain by registering, not what will be denied to them if they don't. But why do you need people to register in the first place? Is it to get a head count? Find out how many people are actually trying to use the software, and how many people are simply interested bystanders? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
On 3/23/06, Mike Schrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable, but I wouldn't terribly mind logging in to a GatedAccess system (However, I'm still waiting for my user ID). I am for this too, but the registration process might be an issue. What will prevent spammers from registering. And if all registration requires your personal attention, then perhaps people like Mike may get frustrated. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
I vote the same. I lurked around the site for quite a while before I felt comfortable registering; probably because I'm a lot less technically trained than everyone else. But I am the main driver toward using VistA in our community health center. We have a lot of other CHCs in the state watching us. Matthew M. King, MD Medical Director Clinica Adelante, Inc Surprise, Arizona 85374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Toppenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy On 3/23/06, Mike Schrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable, but I wouldn't terribly mind logging in to a GatedAccess system (However, I'm still waiting for my user ID). I am for this too, but the registration process might be an issue. What will prevent spammers from registering. And if all registration requires your personal attention, then perhaps people like Mike may get frustrated. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable That is my preference. The issue of know who your neighbours are is an important one when considering how to maximize collaboration etc. There are I believe over 500 people on this list now. How to do this is another questionon another list I belong to each person that posts has a short bio (couple of sentences) automatically added to their postbut that isn't helpful if one posts infrequentlyperhaps we should have an introduce yourself week? Joseph Matthew King wrote: I vote the same. I lurked around the site for quite a while before I felt comfortable registering; probably because I'm a lot less technically trained than everyone else. But I am the main driver toward using VistA in our community health center. We have a lot of other CHCs in the state watching us. Matthew M. King, MD Medical Director Clinica Adelante, Inc Surprise, Arizona 85374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Toppenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy On 3/23/06, Mike Schrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable, but I wouldn't terribly mind logging in to a GatedAccess system (However, I'm still waiting for my user ID). I am for this too, but the registration process might be an issue. What will prevent spammers from registering. And if all registration requires your personal attention, then perhaps people like Mike may get frustrated. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
I agree whole heartedly about thanking David for his wiki dedication and all of the other things he does as well. He is pretty quiet about it, but he does a heck of a lot of work! On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:38, JohnLeoZ wrote: I vote to let the whole world read... and hope they do. Registration helps exclude spam (and allows readers to identify who's contributing.) I don't know whether the spam bots can register themselves. Perhaps just requiring the registration step will control that problem. I would suggest a trial at allowing anyone to register without requiring David to spend his time screening and emailing applicants. The Wiki continues to grow more useful to me personally, and I want to thank David Whitten for his dedication. regards, jlz --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
On 3/23/06, Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable perhaps we should have an introduce yourself week? Joseph I would want this on the Wikki though, not email. Too easy to get lost on email. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Call for Discussion: GatedAccess vs GatedWriteable Wiki Policy
Good idea!! Kevin Toppenberg wrote: On 3/23/06, Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for AnonymousReadOnly/GatedWriteable perhaps we should have an introduce yourself week? Joseph I would want this on the Wikki though, not email. Too easy to get lost on email. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
