Re: [Hardhats-members] Trademark openvista
Watching the discussion on this list, I'm not at all sure that #2 isn't the majority opinion! Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 25, 2005, at 5:19 AM, JohnLeo Zimmer wrote: Of course, the name is just bath water and must not obscure the core reality which, IMHO, is not the mere software stack (Linux/M/VistA) but rather that marvelous artifact <>. error: #1 "We can just plug the stack into just any non-VHA hospital and expect it to work better than, say, Cerner." #2 "The software stack is more valuable than the development method." #3 "It's impossible to recreate the old VA's milieu in the outside world." IF #1, pray that the first few implementations are sufficently successfull for our many medical communities to not be frightened off by the expensive lessons that will be learned yet again. We need those few icebreaker implementations to do well enough that the world takes notice. IF #2, look elsewhere for the future. IF #3, just watch us. jlz "born at the right time" --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Trademark openvista
I have applied for the domains OpenSourceVistA .com and .org and already have OpenSourceVistA.net . Should WorldVistA desire to use these, I will transfer them. The TM fees are a bit steep though, so I will wait to see if WV wants them before applying for that! On Monday 25 April 2005 06:52 am, Nancy Anthracite wrote: > As I understand it, the Hui uses Hui OpenVistA, WorldVistA was going to use > OpenVistA and Medsphere would use Medsphere OpenVistA, and at one time the > story I heard was that they had applied for the TM to protect it and it > would be given to WorldVistA. However, so far that has not happened. Until > it does, I am waiting before I make more buttons. > > On Monday 25 April 2005 12:20 am, JohnLeo Zimmer wrote: > > Nancy Anthracite wrote: > > > > Trademark web site of OpenVistA > > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4fule4.2.1 > > > > Nancy, can always be trusted add to the discussion. > > > > I'm just a country doctor here on the west coast of Iowa, > > but Medsphere's application says Filing Date: November 26, 2003 > > > > A press release (dated July 31, 2003) from the Pacific Telehealth and > > Technology Hui seems pertinent: > > > > http://www.pacifichui.org/media/press_releases/HuiOpenVistaInterest.pdf > > > > Quoting Steve Shreeve's words at that time: > > "The Hui has served as a catalyst in the creation and dissemination of > > OpenVista as the first open-source, enterprise healthcare information > > system available in the healthcare market," said Steve Shreeve, > > Medsphere CEO, "Funding the development and technology transfer of > > OpenVista has opened the door to multiple opportunities for our company, > > the open-source community and healthcare organizations worldwide." > > > > Steve seems to be saying that the Hui funded the creation and > > dissemination of OpenVista in which his nascent corporation > > participated... so how does that lead to his <> the name > > OpenVista? I would expect exactly the opposite. > > > > regards, > > jlz > > > > exclusive owner of "Gra'paZ OpenVistA" > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Trademark openvista
A so there is a warm and fuzzy explanation... Thought so glad I didn't insert foot down throat.merely in mouth. ;) On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 06:52 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote: > As I understand it, the Hui uses Hui OpenVistA, WorldVistA was going to use > OpenVistA and Medsphere would use Medsphere OpenVistA, and at one time the > story I heard was that they had applied for the TM to protect it and it would > be given to WorldVistA. However, so far that has not happened. Until it > does, I am waiting before I make more buttons. > > On Monday 25 April 2005 12:20 am, JohnLeo Zimmer wrote: > > Nancy Anthracite wrote: > > > > Trademark web site of OpenVistA > > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4fule4.2.1 > > > > Nancy, can always be trusted add to the discussion. > > > > I'm just a country doctor here on the west coast of Iowa, > > but Medsphere's application says Filing Date: November 26, 2003 > > > > A press release (dated July 31, 2003) from the Pacific Telehealth and > > Technology Hui seems pertinent: > > > > http://www.pacifichui.org/media/press_releases/HuiOpenVistaInterest.pdf > > > > Quoting Steve Shreeve's words at that time: > > "The Hui has served as a catalyst in the creation and dissemination of > > OpenVista as the first open-source, enterprise healthcare information > > system available in the healthcare market," said Steve Shreeve, > > Medsphere CEO, "Funding the development and technology transfer of > > OpenVista has opened the door to multiple opportunities for our company, > > the open-source community and healthcare organizations worldwide." > > > > Steve seems to be saying that the Hui funded the creation and > > dissemination of OpenVista in which his nascent corporation > > participated... so how does that lead to his <> the name > > OpenVista? I would expect exactly the opposite. > > > > regards, > > jlz > > > > exclusive owner of "Gra'paZ OpenVistA" > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Trademark openvista
Of course, the name is just bath water and must not obscure the core reality which, IMHO, is not the mere software stack (Linux/M/VistA) but rather that marvelous artifact <>. error: #1 "We can just plug the stack into just any non-VHA hospital and expect it to work better than, say, Cerner." #2 "The software stack is more valuable than the development method." #3 "It's impossible to recreate the old VA's milieu in the outside world." IF #1, pray that the first few implementations are sufficently successfull for our many medical communities to not be frightened off by the expensive lessons that will be learned yet again. We need those few icebreaker implementations to do well enough that the world takes notice. IF #2, look elsewhere for the future. IF #3, just watch us. jlz "born at the right time" JohnLeo Zimmer wrote: >Quoting Steve Shreeve's words at that time: >"The Hui has served as a catalyst in the creation and dissemination of >OpenVista as the first open-source, enterprise healthcare information >system available in the healthcare market," said Steve Shreeve, >Medsphere CEO, "Funding the development and technology transfer of >OpenVista has opened the door to multiple opportunities for our company, >the open-source community and healthcare organizations worldwide. > --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Trademark openvista
As I understand it, the Hui uses Hui OpenVistA, WorldVistA was going to use OpenVistA and Medsphere would use Medsphere OpenVistA, and at one time the story I heard was that they had applied for the TM to protect it and it would be given to WorldVistA. However, so far that has not happened. Until it does, I am waiting before I make more buttons. On Monday 25 April 2005 12:20 am, JohnLeo Zimmer wrote: > Nancy Anthracite wrote: > > Trademark web site of OpenVistA > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4fule4.2.1 > > Nancy, can always be trusted add to the discussion. > > I'm just a country doctor here on the west coast of Iowa, > but Medsphere's application says Filing Date: November 26, 2003 > > A press release (dated July 31, 2003) from the Pacific Telehealth and > Technology Hui seems pertinent: > > http://www.pacifichui.org/media/press_releases/HuiOpenVistaInterest.pdf > > Quoting Steve Shreeve's words at that time: > "The Hui has served as a catalyst in the creation and dissemination of > OpenVista as the first open-source, enterprise healthcare information > system available in the healthcare market," said Steve Shreeve, > Medsphere CEO, "Funding the development and technology transfer of > OpenVista has opened the door to multiple opportunities for our company, > the open-source community and healthcare organizations worldwide." > > Steve seems to be saying that the Hui funded the creation and > dissemination of OpenVista in which his nascent corporation > participated... so how does that lead to his <> the name > OpenVista? I would expect exactly the opposite. > > regards, > jlz > > exclusive owner of "Gra'paZ OpenVistA" > > > > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
