Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Pharmacy

2006-07-18 Thread Salman Akram
I deleted the ATC MNEMONIC field for a specific drug; ordered it and dispensed the drugs unit from pick list. This time it din't go to ATC but i want to know how will the patient receive the medicine now? (as the order just got lost).

Regards,
Salman Akram
On 7/18/06, chuck5566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Unit Dose - ATC 

Look at the ATC MNEMONIC field (212.2) of the DRUG file (50) for those drugs that the pick list wants to send to the ATC. If there's data, try deleting it (for one or a few at first).





On Jul 17, 2006, at 12:51 PM, ashfaq wrote:




I have a few questions regarding pharmacy. Here is what I have done


A Pharmacy Location has been set up which has to be linked to IV Room (option in the PBM). 
This pharmacy location is linked to a 'primary inventory point' whose special primary type attribute is set to 'D' for drugs. 
Inventory items are created manually in the primary inventory point and linked to a drug item in the local drug file#50. 
Link between the primary inventory point item and local drug file entry is established properly. 
All the items in the local drug file # 50 have their 'current inventory' imported with the files (which are independent of local inventory items and there is no check for verification). 

When a drug is released to the outpatient the inventory in the local drug file #50 is updated automatically (it doesn't ask for a corresponding inventory item neither updates it). 

As far as Inpatient Medications is concerned there are 2 cases 
(1) Unit Dose Medications: 
When unit dose medications are ordered and verified they are sent to the Pick List (which has to be updated for the current orders) and BCMA Virtual Due List (VDL). After they are updated pick list shows all the orders verified and the quantities ordered and gives the option to dispense drugs against the order. When drugs are dispensed now this pick list (corresponding to a ward group) needs to be sent to the ATC (most probably linked with a real ward). But as there is no ATC so system just shows the message 'No ATC Machine Found' and also there is no update corresponding to the drugs entered in the local drug file or pharmacy inventory. 

(2) IV Additives/Solutions: 
In case of IV Additives there is no 'current inventory' in the local drug file, though the additive can be linked to a pharmacy inventory item. IV Orders are just sent to BCMA after verification and again there is no corresponding update of the inventory. 

· 
Inpatient Medications can also provide Medications to Outpatients which are being treated in a clinic which has facility to entertain outpatients but its only for IV Additives/Solutions (most probably because IV additives/solutions aren't easy to be made outside the hospitals. 



my questions are


There seems to be ambiguities in the link between Pharmacy and Inventory. Inventory item is associated with Drug but is never used for item keeping. 


Is there any other way of delivering Inpatient Medication and is there a way to bypass ATC 

The link between outpatient pharmacy and inventory is also not clear 

Drug administration within a ward is not clear 



Regards


Ashfaq Uddin
Project Lead
Kabot International


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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Pharmacy

2006-07-18 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Salman, there might be a little something to help you in the audio file and 
PowerPoint slides about Inpatient Meds for Outpatients on my server here:

http://opensourcevista.net:/NancysVistAServer/VATraining/



On Tuesday 18 July 2006 02:02, Salman Akram wrote:
I deleted the ATC MNEMONIC field for a specific drug; ordered it and
dispensed the drugs unit from pick list. This time it din't go to ATC but i
want to know how will the patient receive the medicine now? (as the order
just got lost).
Regards,
Salman Akram

On 7/18/06, chuck5566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Unit Dose - ATC

 Look at the ATC MNEMONIC field (212.2) of the DRUG file (50)  for those
 drugs that the pick list wants to send to the ATC.   If there's data, try
 deleting it (for one or a few at first).




  On Jul 17, 2006, at 12:51 PM, ashfaq wrote:

   I have a few questions regarding pharmacy.  Here is what I have done


- A Pharmacy Location has been set up which has to be linked to IV
Room (option in the PBM).
- This pharmacy location is linked to a 'primary inventory point'
whose special primary type attribute is set to 'D' for drugs.
- Inventory items are created manually in the primary inventory
point and linked to a drug item in the local drug file#50.
- Link between the primary inventory point item and local drug file
entry is established properly.
- All the items in the local drug file # 50 have their 'current
inventory' imported with the files (which are independent of local
 inventory items and there is no check for verification).
- When a drug is released to the outpatient the inventory in the
local drug file #50 is updated automatically (it doesn't ask for a
corresponding inventory item neither updates it).
- As far as Inpatient Medications is concerned there are 2 cases

 *(1)   **Unit Dose Medications: *When unit dose medications are ordered
 and verified they are sent to the Pick List (which has to be updated for
 the current orders) and BCMA Virtual Due List (VDL). After they are updated
 pick list shows all the orders verified and the quantities ordered and
 gives the option to dispense drugs against the order. When drugs are
 dispensed now this pick list (corresponding to a ward group) needs to be
 sent to the ATC (most probably linked with a real ward). But as there is no
 ATC so system just shows the message 'No ATC Machine Found' and also there
 is no update corresponding to the drugs entered in the local drug file or
 pharmacy inventory. **

 *(2)   **IV Additives/Solutions: *In case of IV Additives there is no
 'current inventory' in the local drug file, though the additive can be
 linked to a pharmacy inventory item. IV Orders are just sent to BCMA after
 verification and again there is no corresponding update of the inventory.
 **
 ·   Inpatient Medications can
 also provide Medications to Outpatients which are being treated in a clinic
 which has facility to entertain outpatients but its only for IV
 Additives/Solutions (most probably because IV additives/solutions aren't
 easy to be made outside the hospitals.
 **
 **
 my questions are

1. There seems to be ambiguities in the link between Pharmacy and
Inventory. Inventory item is associated with Drug but is never used for
 item keeping.
2. Is there any other way of delivering Inpatient Medication and is
there a way to bypass ATC
3. The link between outpatient pharmacy and inventory is also not
clear
4. Drug administration within a ward is not clear




 Regards

 Ashfaq Uddin
 Project Lead
 Kabot International


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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Pharmacy

2006-07-17 Thread chuck5566
Unit Dose - ATCLook at the ATC MNEMONIC field (212.2) of the DRUG file (50)  for those drugs that the pick list wants to send to the ATC.   If there's data, try deleting it (for one or a few at first). On Jul 17, 2006, at 12:51 PM, ashfaq wrote: I have a few questions regarding pharmacy.  Here is what I have done    A Pharmacy Location has been set up which has to be linked to IV Room (option in the PBM).  This pharmacy location is linked to a 'primary inventory point' whose special primary type attribute is set to 'D' for drugs.  Inventory items are created manually in the primary inventory point and linked to a drug item in the local drug file#50.  Link between the primary inventory point item and local drug file entry is established properly.  All the items in the local drug file # 50 have their 'current inventory' imported with the files (which are independent of local inventory items and there is no check for verification).  When a drug is released to the outpatient the inventory in the local drug file #50 is updated automatically (it doesn't ask for a corresponding inventory item neither updates it).  As far as Inpatient Medications is concerned there are 2 cases (1)   Unit Dose Medications:  When unit dose medications are ordered and verified they are sent to the Pick List (which has to be updated for the current orders) and BCMA Virtual Due List (VDL). After they are updated pick list shows all the orders verified and the quantities ordered and gives the option to dispense drugs against the order. When drugs are dispensed now this pick list (corresponding to a ward group) needs to be sent to the ATC (most probably linked with a real ward). But as there is no ATC so system just shows the message 'No ATC Machine Found' and also there is no update corresponding to the drugs entered in the local drug file or pharmacy inventory. (2)   IV Additives/Solutions:  In case of IV Additives there is no 'current inventory' in the local drug file, though the additive can be linked to a pharmacy inventory item. IV Orders are just sent to BCMA after verification and again there is no corresponding update of the inventory. ·   Inpatient Medications can also provide Medications to Outpatients which are being treated in a clinic which has facility to entertain outpatients but its only for IV Additives/Solutions (most probably because IV additives/solutions aren't easy to be made outside the hospitals.   my questions are   There seems to be ambiguities in the link between Pharmacy and Inventory. Inventory item is associated with Drug but is never used for item keeping.   Is there any other way of delivering Inpatient Medication and is there a way to bypass ATC   The link between outpatient pharmacy and inventory is also not clear   Drug administration within a ward is not clear        Regards    Ashfaq Uddin Project Lead Kabot International-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Hardhats-members mailing listHardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -
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