[H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
Imagine Windows users could upgrade to OS X (provided there is driver support). If it does work well for them, MS could have a serious threat on their hands in the long term. Short term effects will be probably next to nothing considering nothing really kicks off strong in its infancy these days. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2005 5:24 To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
At 04:55 AM 6/5/2005, Tony Antoniou typed: Imagine Windows users could upgrade to OS X (provided there is driver support). If it does work well for them, MS could have a serious threat on their hands in the long term. Short term effects will be probably next to nothing considering nothing really kicks off strong in its infancy these days. I bet it spells the doom of Apple. Why would anyone buy a higher priced Apple when they can compare apples to apples or in this case Apples to any other pc they'll quickly seem the price difference just ain't worth it. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
Considering how much x86 hardware is out there, maybe the purpose of the exercise is to drive hardware costs down? But you're right. It could spell doom for them instead. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2005 8:43 To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD I bet it spells the doom of Apple. Why would anyone buy a higher priced Apple when they can compare apples to apples or in this case Apples to any other pc they'll quickly seem the price difference just ain't worth it.
Re: [H] CANNON kitty
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more wasted time :{)
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Re: [H] Software recommend: AutoCD Menu creators?
in the past have used AutoOption http://www.pollensoftware.com/autorun/autoption.html was fun to play with but haven't used it lately. fp At 10:17 PM 6/4/2005, Chris Reeves Poked the stick with: Anyone have one they recommend? Ive been using AutoCD Pro for a long time; bought it about 3 years ago, but now it seems as though the author, webpage, etc. are gone. Ive looked at some of those that I could find, but didnt find anything as intuitive. Anyone have some recommends? I generally use it to make a CD about 4 times a year of anything Ive bought online so that I can have it ready to que up. CW -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Movement To Ban Silly Tag Lines; Send donations to:
RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
This could mean that I would be able to run OSx on my home PC... Mark DodgeMD Computers602-421-0329 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris ReevesSent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:24 AMTo: 'The Hardware List'Subject: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
Re: [H] Software recommend: AutoCD Menu creators?
At 09:54 AM 6/5/2005, FORC5 typed: in the past have used AutoOption http://www.pollensoftware.com/autorun/autoption.html was fun to play with but haven't used it lately. Autorun Maestro FastMenu on the same website look interesting as well. Maybe I should start using one of these on my cds, huh Joe ? ;-) --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
[H] Notebook ?
looking at a couple of notebooks both about the same price, one is 1.5MHz
Pentium M and the other is 2.4MHz Celeron.
First glance tells me the celeron but I wonder if that is true especially if
the PM is 90nm stuff
opinions intel blue gods :{)
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RE: [H] Notebook ?
add's do not say units are at Fry's and are GQ's. I set one up for a customer and thought they were very nice for the bucks. thanks At 07:40 AM 6/5/2005, Mark Dodge Poked the stick with: Pentium M is cooler and based on the latest dye and I think based on a P4, but the Celeron in this case would be just a little faster. What are the video cards in each? Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Honi soit qui mal y pense.
Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
They only say that they're moving to Intel manufactured chips, not necessarily x86. I can't see Apple moving to x86. Nobody will buy any new macs until the hardware switches. Why buy into a dead achetecture? Chris Reeves wrote: http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
RE: [H] Software recommend: AutoCD Menu creators?
A few years ago, I just kep making compilation CDs. But I've discovered over time that I buy almost all my software online. Having a single disc with a menu that will give me the key, or .reg file, etc. + the software is handy. I mean, anymore, I've got all the software that auto-updates (registration lasts forever) that I bought years ago (Coffeecup, Transmac, WinRAR, WinZIP, etc.) that I download the updates for, and then some that I either joined the subscription club etc. (like Mandrake, etc.) And of course, always new stuff (thanks for those that recommended WebCopier Pro Zealot SWF2VID) so you've got to get those on there too.. So, anymore, I just build a DVD or two (so I can stuff the new LINUX ISOs as well) and then build a menu. For right now, I guess I'll stick with autoCD pro.. I found my copy on a CD from about 2 years ago ;) Still works fine, too bad. I wonder what happened to the author. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:23 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Software recommend: AutoCD Menu creators? At 09:54 AM 6/5/2005, FORC5 typed: in the past have used AutoOption http://www.pollensoftware.com/autorun/autoption.html was fun to play with but haven't used it lately. Autorun Maestro FastMenu on the same website look interesting as well. Maybe I should start using one of these on my cds, huh Joe ? ;-) --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
RE: [H] Software recommend: AutoCD Menu creators?
I'll say this as an add-on.. one of the most useful thing I've bought is from the same people that make UltraISO.. they make a product that allows you to multi-boot. So, I just load up different Windows Pre-Installs (98/2k/PE) on a DVD.. works like a charm. CW
Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
There has been some speculation and rumor about this for a few weeks now, all started by a blurb in the Wall Street Journal. If Apple really does completely ditch IBM and go to Intel, then that obviously is a really, really big deal. Current speculation suggests that Apple will use SOME Intel chips (like the XScale ARM based chip) in SOME Apple devices, but not their computers, and they aren't ditching IBM. This seems to make much more sense, but at this moment it is all just conjecture. We'll see. :) Greg - Original Message - From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD They only say that they're moving to Intel manufactured chips, not necessarily x86. I can't see Apple moving to x86. Nobody will buy any new macs until the hardware switches. Why buy into a dead achetecture? Chris Reeves wrote: http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
We haven't cut output or laid anyone off in our chip division. Who knows what's going on at this point. There have been no official announcements on our end. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:12 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD There has been some speculation and rumor about this for a few weeks now, all started by a blurb in the Wall Street Journal. If Apple really does completely ditch IBM and go to Intel, then that obviously is a really, really big deal. Current speculation suggests that Apple will use SOME Intel chips (like the XScale ARM based chip) in SOME Apple devices, but not their computers, and they aren't ditching IBM. This seems to make much more sense, but at this moment it is all just conjecture. We'll see. :) Greg - Original Message - From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD They only say that they're moving to Intel manufactured chips, not necessarily x86. I can't see Apple moving to x86. Nobody will buy any new macs until the hardware switches. Why buy into a dead achetecture? Chris Reeves wrote: http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3- 5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
Well, IBM just inked contracts with both Microsoft for XBOX360 and Nintendo for Revolution.. so uh, I think those will keep it busy.. they probably do same/more volume then Apple ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Klein Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:45 AM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: RE: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD We haven't cut output or laid anyone off in our chip division. Who knows what's going on at this point. There have been no official announcements on our end. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:12 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD There has been some speculation and rumor about this for a few weeks now, all started by a blurb in the Wall Street Journal. If Apple really does completely ditch IBM and go to Intel, then that obviously is a really, really big deal. Current speculation suggests that Apple will use SOME Intel chips (like the XScale ARM based chip) in SOME Apple devices, but not their computers, and they aren't ditching IBM. This seems to make much more sense, but at this moment it is all just conjecture. We'll see. :) Greg - Original Message - From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD They only say that they're moving to Intel manufactured chips, not necessarily x86. I can't see Apple moving to x86. Nobody will buy any new macs until the hardware switches. Why buy into a dead achetecture? Chris Reeves wrote: http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3- 5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
Re: [H] New ABC client available
Did you try it yet? I d/l'd it but haven't had time yet. Jeff From: joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [H] New ABC client available For those of you that use or would like to try the latest ABC (Bit Torrent network client): http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/ 2.6.9 was the last major version; here's the change log: Latest version of ABC is Version 3.0.1b Version 3.0.1b * (3.0.1b - fixed WebService) * Updated to BitTornado 0.3.12 core (includes various fixes) * Updated to wxPython 2.6.0 * More things can be done via menus * Should have slightly lower cpu usage * Better shutdown behavior * Preferences window should appear a little more quickly * More strings added to language file Version 3.0 * Download rate limiting * Upload Rate Manager (URM): automatically start new torrents if upload bandwidth falls below a given threshold. * File priority selection for multi-file torrents * Click on column headings to sort by that column * Right-click on columns to enable/disable columns * New preferences dialog * Unified torrent details window * Logging for torrent status messages * Updated webservice protocol * Fixes for issues reading/writing config files * Support for additional parameters for the BitTornado core Direct download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pingpong-abc/ABC-win32-v3.0.1b.exe?download -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Software recommend: AutoCD Menu creators?
Nah, your CD's are just fine. Wayne Johnson wrote: Autorun Maestro FastMenu on the same website look interesting as well. Maybe I should start using one of these on my cds, huh Joe ? ;-) -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] New ABC client available
Yeah lots of features that I was looking for with the old version. Uses less CPU now also. Just a lot better overall. I'm impressed with it. jeff.lane wrote: Did you try it yet? I d/l'd it but haven't had time yet. -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Magazine
I'm letting my pc mag sub fade away also. Useless anymore and clearly biased. Reviews are hot and miss and theres no content to speak of. Brian Weeden wrote: I know that some people don't like it but I have been subscribing to Wired for a few years now and really like it. It is not a PC mag persay but more of technology and culture. I don't think there is any true PC mag out there right now that I would bother to subscibe to. All of the ones I have seen recently are 70% ads and the 30% of content is dumbed down to the point of being useless. I currently subscribe to the Economist (personal favorite), Wired, Wine Spectator (2nd fave), Computer Gaming World, and Maxim. -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] New ABC client available
Thanks, I'll try it on next week's Dr. Who(Ep 12) - Original Message - From: joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [H] New ABC client available Yeah lots of features that I was looking for with the old version. Uses less CPU now also. Just a lot better overall. I'm impressed with it. jeff.lane wrote: Did you try it yet? I d/l'd it but haven't had time yet. -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005
Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
The great success of Apple, IMHO, (leaving iPod out of it) has been their operating system (and the apps that run on it). Windows has always been compared to it and found lacking. By decoupling OSX from proprietary hardware to IBM generic x86 hardware Microsoft will finally have the competition that everyone has longed for. With the outrageous price of XP Home and XP Pro maybe we'll start to see some reductions in user costs (it's better to buy than steal). The biggest hurdle for Jobs to overcome is the open architecture of x86. If OSX is going to compete with Windows then the Apple faithful are going to have to get used to more incompatibilities (you know like the ones we have to put up with every day). Is there any such thing as an OSX BSOD? I hope this is good for Apple and good for us all. @:| Mark Dodge wrote: This could mean that I would be able to run OSx on my home PC... Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Chris Reeves *Sent:* Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:24 AM *To:* 'The Hardware List' *Subject:* [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005
Re: [H] Magazine
PC World is definitely better that PC Magazine. IMHO @:) Winterlight wrote: It has been a long time since I subscribed to a computer magazine. The web has pretty much filled that need, but there are times now when I would just like to sit down and read a print computer magazine. I use to wait for my PCMAG, but now PCMAG has deteriorated to the point where I'm no longer interested. What other computer magazines are good, and not aimed at the novice. How about MaximumPC?Is this all performance and reviews or does this show you how to do interesting things? Comments?
Re: [H] Magazine
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Winterlight wrote: How about MaximumPC?Is this all performance and reviews or does this show you how to do interesting things? Comments? Maxim I think is your best bet. (Only half joking... I get all my PC news from the internet, I'm not sure a Magazine would be giving me anything more than I already find from the sites I frequent.) Christopher Fisk -- Fry: I've only got two fantasies left: to be invisible in a chocolate factory, and to be romantically linked to a celebrity. Bender: I could pound your head 'til you think that's what happened. Fry: Okay.
Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
Stan Zaske wrote: have the competition that everyone has longed for. With the outrageous price of XP Home and XP Pro maybe we'll start to see some reductions in user costs (it's better to buy than steal). There's only a $70 price difference between XP Home and OSX.
Re: [H] Magazine
Maxim and Network World are definitely your best bets... The latter is free too ;) _ Julian Zottl CTO, Radiant Network Technology, LLC Getting ahead in the tech sector isn't about kissing butt ... you gotta sniff the right packets -- Original Message -- From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:08:26 -0500 The only PC magazine I've found worth a damn recently is CPU (Computer Power User). I currently subscribe to it and Discover magazine...thinking of picking up Scientific American as well. Greg - Original Message - From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [H] Magazine I know that some people don't like it but I have been subscribing to Wired for a few years now and really like it. It is not a PC mag persay but more of technology and culture. I don't think there is any true PC mag out there right now that I would bother to subscibe to. All of the ones I have seen recently are 70% ads and the 30% of content is dumbed down to the point of being useless. I currently subscribe to the Economist (personal favorite), Wired, Wine Spectator (2nd fave), Computer Gaming World, and Maxim.
[H] What is the name of the website...
... that lists one item for sale per day. The items are usually overstocked or liquidation technology and electronic items. I remember seeing it mentioned here before but did not keep a link for it in my favorites. Thanks, Jerry
Re: [H] What is the name of the website...
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Jerry Jones wrote: ... that lists one item for sale per day. The items are usually overstocked or liquidation technology and electronic items. I remember seeing it mentioned here before but did not keep a link for it in my favorites. http://www.woot.com Chris -- If people could put rainbows in zoos, they'd do it. -Hobbes
Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
While all three are PPC based chips they are all different so a chip produced for one will not work on the other. Eli - Original Message - Which might be a problem. If Apple stops being IBM's largest PPC customer, they can't bully them as much for production levels. The XBox360 and Nintendo might mean less chips available for Apple to use.
Re: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD
Not necessarily. Remember your history OS X is based on Nextstep OS from Next (the company Jobs ran for awhile) That OS ran on x86 chips, so the OS isn't completely tied to the PPC core. But that doesn't mean a computer that can run windows can also run OS X as the Next boxes couldn't. Plus if you've followed any of the Mac emulator groups Apple has a poor history of writing software in a generic fashion. What I mean by that is Windows is meant to run on all hardware so really can't have any code in it for specific configurations as there are way to many of those to make that feasible. Apple on the other hand has a very small number of computers the OS can run on and so they have had code that does that. Eli - Original Message - This could mean that I would be able to run OSx on my home PC... Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:24 AM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: [H] Apple to drop PowerPC CPU, Go Intel/AMD http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede Wow. CW
Re: [H] What is the name of the website...
Thanks! - Original Message - From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [H] What is the name of the website... On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Jerry Jones wrote: ... that lists one item for sale per day. The items are usually overstocked or liquidation technology and electronic items. I remember seeing it mentioned here before but did not keep a link for it in my favorites. http://www.woot.com Chris -- If people could put rainbows in zoos, they'd do it. -Hobbes
