RE: [H] Possible Phishing Attack? Fwd: Amazon Payments Billing Issue

[Neil Davidson]

The fact it is addressed to "Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED]"  instead of your
actual name is also a bit of a giveaway

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: 03 December 2005 17:13
> To: hwg
> Subject: [H] Possible Phishing Attack? Fwd: Amazon Payments 
> Billing Issue
> 
> I got the following from Amazon which seems kind of suspicious. 
> Clicking the link looks to me like it does take you to the 
> real Amazon but you can't be 100% sure these days.  I typed 
> in Amazon myself and verified my account settings and 
> everything looked ok.
> 
> The formatting is a bit screwed up because I converted it 
> from Rich Text to plain text for this list.
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 3 Dec 2005 14:28:30 -
> Subject: Amazon Payments Billing Issue - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
>  Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ,
> 
>  Greetings from Amazon
>   Payments.
> 
>   Your bank has contacted 
> us regarding some attempts of charges
> from your credit card via the  Amazon  system. We
> have reasons to believe that you changed your registration 
> information or that someone  else has unauthorized access to 
> your Amazon account  
>   Due to recent activity, including possible
> unauthorized listings  placed on your account, we
> will require a second confirmation  of your
> identity with us in order to allow us to investigate  
>this matter further. Your account is not suspended, but if 
> in 48 hours after you receive this message your account is
>  not confirmed we reserve the right to suspend
> your Amazon  registration. If you received this
> notice and you are not  the authorized account
> holder, please be aware that it is in  violation
> of Amazon policy to represent oneself as another 
> Amazon user. Such action may also be in violation of local,   
>   national, and/or international law. Amazon is committed to  
>assist law enforcement with any inquires related to
> attempts  to misappropriate personal information
> with the intent to  commit fraud or theft.
> Information will be provided at the  request of
> law enforcement agencies to ensure that 
> perpetrators are prosecuted to the full  extent of
> the law.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  To confirm your identity with us click here:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/flex-sign-in/ref=pd_irl_gw_
> r/103-3177084-7567864?opt=oa&page=recs/sign-in-secure.html
> 
>  After responding to the 
> message, we ask that you allow at least 72 hours for the case 
> to be investigated. Emailing us before that time will
> result  in delays. We apologize in advance for any
> inconvenience this  may cause you and we would
> like to thank you for your cooperation  as we
> review this matter.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Thank you for your interest in selling at Amazon.com.
> 
>   Amazon.com Customer Service
>  http://www.amazon.com
> 
> This message and any files or documents attached may contain 
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> Brian
> 

Re: [H] Again - Best Motherboard - Looking for Recs

[Steve Tomporowski]

The only roundup on Anandtech mentioned the DFI Lanparty as tops with
the MSI Neo4 close behind.  I hesitate to use DFI since we had
some of their computers at PMSNA when I was there.  POS every one
of them.  But as we' ve noticed, things change.  

SteveOn 12/3/05, Chris Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Note though: We've had a lot of people have problems with the Gigabyte SLIboard and the 7800GTs (XFX/BFG) because of the way the Northbridge HS islocated.  So, just a note on that ;)
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim Edwards
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:58 PM> To: The Hardware List> Subject: Re: [H] Again - Best Motherboard - Looking for Recs>> At 12/2/2005 08:56 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:> >It's time for an upgrade and I'm looking into AMD
> motherboards.  I want> >to do SLI, but I probably won't do any overclocking.  What's a good> >motherboard?  My last motherboard was the MSI Neo3 Platinum> and that's> >worked reasonably well.  I intent to get a dual core, so that comes
> >into the mix.> >> >Any recommendations?> >> >ThanksSteve>> This is what I got recently.> 
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128306> GIGABYTE GA-K8N-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD> Motherboard Got it on sale for 82 beens. Quick, easy install,> zero hassles so far since 11/20
>>

RE: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs. DualCoreIntel

[Chris Reeves]

Tom's Hardware put out there overview yesterday.  Interesting.  Now, Intel
just has to hit yields :)

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20051203/index.html




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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Boswell
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:38 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD 
> vs. DualCoreIntel
> 
> On 3 Dec 2005, at 00:12:480, Hayes Elkins wrote:
> 
> >> From: James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: The Hardware List 
> >> To: The Hardware List 
> >> Subject: Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs.  
> >> DualCoreIntel
> >> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:52:04 +
> >>
> >>
> >> Good point, the centrino branding is probably quite the 
> moneyspinner  
> >> for them.
> >
> > If I am not mistaken, this is the first year that Intel based 
> > notebooks outsold Intel based desktops. I don't think Intel 
> is crying 
> > too much over AMD's pyrrhic victory in the desktop segment 
> when they 
> > have shifted most of their business to focus on a lucrative mobile 
> > market.
> 
> AMD outsold intel in the retail desktops segment for the past 
> few quarters as I recall, Although I think Intels biggest 
> worry about AMD is the server segment though, they're 
> starting to get some proper recognition there, hell, Ebay 
> just announced they were moving over to a cluster of a few 
> hundred Sun rigs with Opterons in them add that in with 
> FAB36 coming online and AMD actually having CAPACITY with 
> which to make things... and.. well if Ebay and Sun are taking 
> you seriously, you've already made a big impact,
> 
> 
> My main hope is that Intel don't squash AMD like a bug, and 
> it looks like AMD will maintain their interconnect advantage, 
> this is actually a good thing, because it gives AMD a chance 
> to rejig their core and give us (the end user) some tit for 
> tat performance/price wars, rather than getting swatted like 
> flies and having no response and new chips from intel being 
> stupidly overpriced...
> 
> Oh, one thing that should be interesting in the 06/07 
> timeframe, FB- Dimm.. which, more or less means Intel will be 
> on an integrated memory controller, it'll just have a cascade 
> based approach to it..  
> sorta...
> 
> 
> We live in interesting times.
> 
> -_-_
> James Boswell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ : 1653327 | AIM : TorazChryx
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 

Re: [H] Again - Best Motherboard - Looking for Recs

[FORC5]

built a DFI Lanparty for a friend, turned out very nice but was not able to run 
dual channel  mode until the latest bios flash. (memory errors)
fp

At 07:31 AM 12/4/2005, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:
>The only roundup on Anandtech mentioned the DFI Lanparty as tops with the MSI 
>Neo4 close behind.  I hesitate to use DFI since we had some of their computers 
>at PMSNA when I was there.  POS every one of them.  But as we' ve noticed, 
>things change.  
>
>Steve

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RE: [H] Again - Best Motherboard - Looking for Recs

[Mark Dodge]

Here is where I got the info from Anandtech as the 9NPA 
Ultra is his editors choice.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2465&p=28
 
Mark DodgeMD Computers360-772-2433 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve 
  TomporowskiSent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:31 AMTo: 
  The Hardware ListSubject: Re: [H] Again - Best Motherboard - 
  Looking for Recs
  The only roundup on Anandtech mentioned the DFI Lanparty as tops 
  with the MSI Neo4 close behind.  I hesitate to use DFI since we had some 
  of their computers at PMSNA when I was there.  POS every one of 
  them.  But as we' ve noticed, things change.  Steve
  On 12/3/05, Chris 
  Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Note 
though: We've had a lot of people have problems with the Gigabyte 
SLIboard and the 7800GTs (XFX/BFG) because of the way the Northbridge HS 
islocated.  So, just a note on that 
;) 
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-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Jim Edwards > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:58 
PM> To: The Hardware List> Subject: Re: [H] Again - Best 
Motherboard - Looking for Recs>> At 12/2/2005 08:56 AM, Steve 
Tomporowski wrote:> >It's time for an upgrade and I'm looking into 
AMD > motherboards.  I want> >to do SLI, but I 
probably won't do any overclocking.  What's a good> 
>motherboard?  My last motherboard was the MSI Neo3 
Platinum> and that's> >worked reasonably well.  I 
intent to get a dual core, so that comes > >into the mix.> 
>> >Any recommendations?> >> 
>ThanksSteve>> This is what I got recently.> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128306> 
GIGABYTE GA-K8N-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD> 
Motherboard Got it on sale for 82 beens. Quick, easy install,> zero 
hassles so far since 11/20 
>>

[H] IE Bug Lets Hackers Phish With Google Desktop

[warpmedia]

Sure sounds like why I never installed Google Desktop!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20051202/tc_pcworld/123826

A bug in Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser gives phishers a way to 
scan the hard drives of Google Desktop users, according to an Israeli 
hacker. Because of a flaw in the way IE processes Web pages, a malicious 
Web site could use the attack to steal sensitive information like credit 
card numbers or passwords from the hard drives of its visitors.

Re: [H] IE Bug Lets Hackers Phish With Google Desktop

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: [H] IE Bug Lets Hackers Phish With Google Desktop



Sure sounds like why I never installed Google Desktop!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20051202/tc_pcworld/123826



It is sad that people think of software like they think of new vehicles. 
With new vehicles the bells and whistles are usually good things. With 
software the bells and whistles are usually problems. With software, the 
stripped down version is often the best. Some people's browsers etc. look 
more decorated than a Christmas tree with the things that have been added to 
them.


Chuck 

Re: [H] Again - Best Motherboard - Looking for Recs

[Stan Zaske]

There's this engineer that was mainly responsible for Abit's greatest 
past OC'ing boards that left and is now a big shot @ DFI. Forget his 
name but he's somewhat famous in online community. My next mobo will be 
DFI. @:)>


Steve Tomporowski wrote:
The only roundup on Anandtech mentioned the DFI Lanparty as tops with 
the MSI Neo4 close behind.  I hesitate to use DFI since we had some of 
their computers at PMSNA when I was there.  POS every one of them.  But 
as we' ve noticed, things change. 


Steve

On 12/3/05, *Chris Reeves* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Note though: We've had a lot of people have problems with the
Gigabyte SLI
board and the 7800GTs (XFX/BFG) because of the way the Northbridge HS is
located.  So, just a note on that ;)





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 > -Original Message-
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] On Behalf Of Jim Edwards
 > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:58 PM
 > To: The Hardware List
 > Subject: Re: [H] Again - Best Motherboard - Looking for Recs
 >
 > At 12/2/2005 08:56 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
 > >It's time for an upgrade and I'm looking into AMD
 > motherboards.  I want
 > >to do SLI, but I probably won't do any overclocking.  What's a good
 > >motherboard?  My last motherboard was the MSI Neo3 Platinum
 > and that's
 > >worked reasonably well.  I intent to get a dual core, so that comes
 > >into the mix.
 > >
 > >Any recommendations?
 > >
 > >ThanksSteve
 >
 > This is what I got recently.
 > http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128306
 > GIGABYTE GA-K8N-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD
 > Motherboard Got it on sale for 82 beens. Quick, easy install,
 > zero hassles so far since 11/20
 >
 >





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Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs. DualCoreIntel

[Stan Zaske]

I suspect they will considering they announced the construction of 
another .45 nm Fab in Israel the other day. Intel is going to be around 
for a long time and I think they're back on track now. AMD better watch 
out! @:)>



Chris Reeves wrote:

Tom's Hardware put out there overview yesterday.  Interesting.  Now, Intel
just has to hit yields :)

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20051203/index.html




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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Boswell

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:38 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD 
vs. DualCoreIntel


On 3 Dec 2005, at 00:12:480, Hayes Elkins wrote:



From: James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs.  
DualCoreIntel

Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:52:04 +


Good point, the centrino branding is probably quite the 


moneyspinner  


for them.


If I am not mistaken, this is the first year that Intel based 
notebooks outsold Intel based desktops. I don't think Intel 


is crying 

too much over AMD's pyrrhic victory in the desktop segment 


when they 

have shifted most of their business to focus on a lucrative mobile 
market.


AMD outsold intel in the retail desktops segment for the past 
few quarters as I recall, Although I think Intels biggest 
worry about AMD is the server segment though, they're 
starting to get some proper recognition there, hell, Ebay 
just announced they were moving over to a cluster of a few 
hundred Sun rigs with Opterons in them add that in with 
FAB36 coming online and AMD actually having CAPACITY with 
which to make things... and.. well if Ebay and Sun are taking 
you seriously, you've already made a big impact,



My main hope is that Intel don't squash AMD like a bug, and 
it looks like AMD will maintain their interconnect advantage, 
this is actually a good thing, because it gives AMD a chance 
to rejig their core and give us (the end user) some tit for 
tat performance/price wars, rather than getting swatted like 
flies and having no response and new chips from intel being 
stupidly overpriced...


Oh, one thing that should be interesting in the 06/07 
timeframe, FB- Dimm.. which, more or less means Intel will be 
on an integrated memory controller, it'll just have a cascade 
based approach to it..  
sorta...



We live in interesting times.

-_-_
James Boswell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 1653327 | AIM : TorazChryx
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [H] IE Bug Lets Hackers Phish With Google Desktop

[Stan Zaske]

Also why I never use IE. Firefox god, IE baad!! @:)>


warpmedia wrote:

Sure sounds like why I never installed Google Desktop!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20051202/tc_pcworld/123826

A bug in Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser gives phishers a way to 
scan the hard drives of Google Desktop users, according to an Israeli 
hacker. Because of a flaw in the way IE processes Web pages, a malicious 
Web site could use the attack to steal sensitive information like credit 
card numbers or passwords from the hard drives of its visitors.

Re: [H] IE Bug Lets Hackers Phish With Google Desktop

[Stan Zaske]

Yeah, I've got about a dozen Firefox extensions that get me the 7-day 
forecast among other things. @:)>



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


- Original Message - From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: [H] IE Bug Lets Hackers Phish With Google Desktop



Sure sounds like why I never installed Google Desktop!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20051202/tc_pcworld/123826



It is sad that people think of software like they think of new vehicles. 
With new vehicles the bells and whistles are usually good things. With 
software the bells and whistles are usually problems. With software, the 
stripped down version is often the best. Some people's browsers etc. 
look more decorated than a Christmas tree with the things that have been 
added to them.


Chuck