Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead ofupgrade cd

[warpmedia]

Glad to hear it!

Harvey Best wrote:

Thanks peoples, it is upgraded and running!
 
Harveyhbest

RE: Re: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead ofupgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

Thanks peoples, it is upgraded and running!
 
Harvey    hbest



> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead ofupgrade cd> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:17:09 +> > Weird that has never failed for me> > http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/search/B/> > They seem to have accomplished it also> > Do you have multiple installs on this drive?> > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless> > -Original Message-> From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:43:01 > To:"Alt Cpu" > Subject: RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of> upgrade cd> > Ok, deleted, tried the install and it still detects Windows and will not let me "upgrade". So, I shut down, rebooted and Windows won't come up as Win.com is missing. Do I need to boot with a floppy so that I can access the cd to do the install? > >  > >  > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > Subject: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:31:10 +> > > > Dead on do that and it will run like its a regular install but upgrade the existing installation> > > > CW> > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless> > > > -Original Message-> > From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:25:36 > > To:"The Hardware List" > > Subject: RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > > > Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 98 and go?> >  > >  > >  > > Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of this help! > >  > >  > >  > > Harvey> > > > > >  > > > >  > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > > Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > > > > > IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks > > > for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & > > > drivers.> > > > > > Harry McGregor wrote:> > > > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a > > > > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without > > > > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.> > > > > > > >Harry> > > > > > > > Harvey Best wrote:> > > >>> > > >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows > > > >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package > > > >> instead of a full install package?*> > > >>> > > >>  > > > >>> > > >> *How to do it : *> > > >>> > > >> *Windows ME/98/95*> > > >>> > > >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type > > > >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It > > > >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just > > > >> restart the computer and install windows.> > > >>> > > >> *Windows XP*> > > >>> > > >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally > > > >> installed without formatting the drive> > > > > > > > > > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More. > > > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More. > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More.

Re: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead ofupgrade cd

[Chris Reeves]

Ding absolutely correct!

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-Original Message-
From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 17:10:55 
To:"The Hardware List" 
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of
upgrade cd

I was surprised to find that a system this old would let me use a bootable 
cd-rom, but it did and I am now installing. It wanted to install to 
c:\windows.000 but I didn't let it do that, I just changed it to c:\windows. If 
that was wrong, then I guess it was a sign that I just needed to go ahead and 
wipe the hdd and do a clean install of 98.
 
 
 
I'll let ya'll know how it goes.
 
 
 
Thanks again,
 
 
 
Harvey


 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of 
upgrade cd
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:43:01 -0400

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{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Ok, deleted, tried the install and it 
still detects Windows and will not let me "upgrade". So, I shut down, rebooted 
and Windows won't come up as Win.com is missing. Do I need to boot with a 
floppy so that I can access the cd to do the install? 

 

 > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade 
> cd
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:31:10 +
> 
> Dead on do that and it will run like its a regular install but upgrade the existing installation
> 
> CW
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:25:36 
> To:"The Hardware List" 
> Subject: RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd
> 
> Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 98 and go?
>  
>  
>  
> Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of this help! 
>  
>  
>  
> Harvey
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400
> > From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd
> > 
> > IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks 
> > for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & 
> > drivers.
> > 
> > Harry McGregor wrote:
> > > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a 
> > > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without 
> > > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.
> > > 
> > >Harry
> > > 
> > > Harvey Best wrote:
> > >>
> > >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows 
> > >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package 
> > >> instead of a full install package?*
> > >>
> > >>  
> > >>
> > >> *How to do it : *
> > >>
> > >> *Windows ME/98/95*
> > >>
> > >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type 
> > >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It 
> > >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just 
> > >> restart the computer and install windows.
> > >>
> > >> *Windows XP*
> > >>
> > >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally 
> > >> installed without formatting the drive
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead ofupgrade cd

[Chris Reeves]

Weird that has never failed for me

http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/search/B/

They seem to have accomplished it also

Do you have multiple installs on this drive?

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-Original Message-
From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:43:01 
To:"Alt Cpu" 
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of
upgrade cd

Ok, deleted, tried the install and it still detects Windows and will not let me 
"upgrade". So, I shut down, rebooted and Windows won't come up as Win.com is 
missing. Do I need to boot with a floppy so that I can access the cd to do the 
install? 

 

 > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade 
> cd
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:31:10 +
> 
> Dead on do that and it will run like its a regular install but upgrade the existing installation
> 
> CW
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:25:36 
> To:"The Hardware List" 
> Subject: RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd
> 
> Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 98 and go?
>  
>  
>  
> Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of this help! 
>  
>  
>  
> Harvey
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400
> > From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd
> > 
> > IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks 
> > for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & 
> > drivers.
> > 
> > Harry McGregor wrote:
> > > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a 
> > > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without 
> > > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.
> > > 
> > >Harry
> > > 
> > > Harvey Best wrote:
> > >>
> > >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows 
> > >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package 
> > >> instead of a full install package?*
> > >>
> > >>  
> > >>
> > >> *How to do it : *
> > >>
> > >> *Windows ME/98/95*
> > >>
> > >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type 
> > >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It 
> > >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just 
> > >> restart the computer and install windows.
> > >>
> > >> *Windows XP*
> > >>
> > >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally 
> > >> installed without formatting the drive
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

I was surprised to find that a system this old would let me use a bootable cd-rom, but it did and I am now installing. It wanted to install to c:\windows.000 but I didn't let it do that, I just changed it to c:\windows. If that was wrong, then I guess it was a sign that I just needed to go ahead and wipe the hdd and do a clean install of 98.
 
I'll let ya'll know how it goes.
 
Thanks again,
 
Harvey


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comSubject: RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cdDate: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:43:01 -0400


Ok, deleted, tried the install and it still detects Windows and will not let me "upgrade". So, I shut down, rebooted and Windows won't come up as Win.com is missing. Do I need to boot with a floppy so that I can access the cd to do the install? 

> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:31:10 +> > Dead on do that and it will run like its a regular install but upgrade the existing installation> > CW> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless> > -Original Message-> From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:25:36 > To:"The Hardware List" > Subject: RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 98 and go?>  >  >  > Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of this help! >  >  >  > Harvey> > >  > >  > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > > > IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks > > for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & > > drivers.> > > > Harry McGregor wrote:> > > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a > > > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without > > > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.> > > > > >Harry> > > > > > Harvey Best wrote:> > >>> > >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows > > >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package > > >> instead of a full install package?*> > >>> > >>  > > >>> > >> *How to do it : *> > >>> > >> *Windows ME/98/95*> > >>> > >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type > > >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It > > >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just > > >> restart the computer and install windows.> > >>> > >> *Windows XP*> > >>> > >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally > > >> installed without formatting the drive> > > > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More. > 

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RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

Ok, deleted, tried the install and it still detects Windows and will not let me "upgrade". So, I shut down, rebooted and Windows won't come up as Win.com is missing. Do I need to boot with a floppy so that I can access the cd to do the install? 

> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:31:10 +> > Dead on do that and it will run like its a regular install but upgrade the existing installation> > CW> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless> > -Original Message-> From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:25:36 > To:"The Hardware List" > Subject: RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 98 and go?>  >  >  > Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of this help! >  >  >  > Harvey> > >  > >  > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > > > IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks > > for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & > > drivers.> > > > Harry McGregor wrote:> > > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a > > > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without > > > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.> > > > > >Harry> > > > > > Harvey Best wrote:> > >>> > >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows > > >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package > > >> instead of a full install package?*> > >>> > >>  > > >>> > >> *How to do it : *> > >>> > >> *Windows ME/98/95*> > >>> > >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type > > >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It > > >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just > > >> restart the computer and install windows.> > >>> > >> *Windows XP*> > >>> > >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally > > >> installed without formatting the drive> > > > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More. > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More.

RE: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

Thanks again everybody! 

> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:31:10 +> > Dead on do that and it will run like its a regular install but upgrade the existing installation> > CW> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless> > -Original Message-> From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:25:36 > To:"The Hardware List" > Subject: RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 98 and go?>  >  >  > Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of this help! >  >  >  > Harvey> > >  > >  > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > > > IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks > > for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & > > drivers.> > > > Harry McGregor wrote:> > > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a > > > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without > > > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.> > > > > >Harry> > > > > > Harvey Best wrote:> > >>> > >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows > > >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package > > >> instead of a full install package?*> > >>> > >>  > > >>> > >> *How to do it : *> > >>> > >> *Windows ME/98/95*> > >>> > >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type > > >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It > > >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just > > >> restart the computer and install windows.> > >>> > >> *Windows XP*> > >>> > >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally > > >> installed without formatting the drive> > > > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More. > Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes Upgrade today

Re: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Chris Reeves]

Dead on do that and it will run like its a regular install but upgrade the 
existing installation

CW
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-Original Message-
From: "Harvey Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:25:36 
To:"The Hardware List" 
Subject: RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 
98 and go?
 
 
 
Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of 
this help! 
 
 
 
Harvey


 

 > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd
> 
> IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks 
> for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & 
> drivers.
> 
> Harry McGregor wrote:
> > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a 
> > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without 
> > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.
> > 
> >Harry
> > 
> > Harvey Best wrote:
> >>
> >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows 
> >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package 
> >> instead of a full install package?*
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >> *How to do it : *
> >>
> >> *Windows ME/98/95*
> >>
> >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type 
> >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It 
> >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just 
> >> restart the computer and install windows.
> >>
> >> *Windows XP*
> >>
> >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally 
> >> installed without formatting the drive
> 




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RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

Ok, let me confirm: delete C:\windows\win.com file, then put in the OEM cd of 98 and go?
 
Want to make sure I am understanding the info. I really do appreciate all of this help! 
 
Harvey

> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks > for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & > drivers.> > Harry McGregor wrote:> > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a > > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without > > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.> > > >Harry> > > > Harvey Best wrote:> >>> >> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows > >> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package > >> instead of a full install package?*> >>> >>  > >>> >> *How to do it : *> >>> >> *Windows ME/98/95*> >>> >> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type > >> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It > >> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just > >> restart the computer and install windows.> >>> >> *Windows XP*> >>> >> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally > >> installed without formatting the drive> Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More.

Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Chris Reeves]

Dead on correct works everytime

CW

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-Original Message-
From: warpmedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:33 
To:The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks 
for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & 
drivers.

Harry McGregor wrote:
> That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a 
> reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without 
> reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.
> 
>Harry
> 
> Harvey Best wrote:
>>
>> *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows 
>> keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package 
>> instead of a full install package?*
>>
>>  
>>
>> *How to do it : *
>>
>> *Windows ME/98/95*
>>
>> You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type 
>> the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It 
>> will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just 
>> restart the computer and install windows.
>>
>> *Windows XP*
>>
>> You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally 
>> installed without formatting the drive

Re: [H] XP Pro and two NICs

[warpmedia]

Could be the metric or routing issue then, dumping the routing tables 
when it happens would help tell you diagnose it.


So they have a 98 machine on a live IP & no router/firewall? This is 
just stupid.



Thane Sherrington (S) wrote:

At 03:27 AM 30/05/2006, warpmedia wrote:
Is it that the NIC attached to the DSL won't get a new IP or is it a 
metric issue where the internal network becomes the preferred route?


The NIC attached to the DSL get's it's IP even before I do a fix, but it 
appears that the internal network becomes the preferred route.


Sounds to me like you are trying to ICS to share the DSL with the 
internal network? This would be a non-issue if using a router/firewall 
appliance to deal with the DSL connectivity.


Actually, they don't want the internal network to have internet access 
(I suggested putting in a router but they don't want anyone on the other 
computers to be able to waste time on the net.)  I'm replacing an older 
machine that had this hardware config but was running Win98, and they 
wanted it replicated.


T

Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[warpmedia]

IIRC the trick was deleting the C:\windows\win.com file that OEM looks 
for and then it will do an upgrade preserving the registry, software & 
drivers.


Harry McGregor wrote:
That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a 
reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without 
reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.


   Harry

Harvey Best wrote:


*I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows 
keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package 
instead of a full install package?*


 


*How to do it : *

*Windows ME/98/95*

You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type 
the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It 
will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just 
restart the computer and install windows.


*Windows XP*

You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally 
installed without formatting the drive

RE: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

Thanks. Would it be possible to do a "parallel" install and then I could pull the drivers that 98 needed, and then wipe the old 95 directory? 
 
Harvey



> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:41:38 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd> > That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a > reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without > reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.> > Harry> > Harvey Best wrote:> >> > *I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows > > keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package > > instead of a full install package?*> >> >  > >> > *How to do it : *> >> > *Windows ME/98/95*> >> > You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type > > the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It > > will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just > > restart the computer and install windows.> >> > *Windows XP*> >> > You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally > > installed without formatting the drive> >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:11:52 -0400> > Subject: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of> > upgrade cd> >> > I know, you are already scratching your head wondering if I am> > insane. Am doing a little job for a friend of mine. He has an old> > Packard Bell (I know, I know), an Intel (ditto, ditto) 233, and> > only 24 megs of ram. He has a body shop. To mix the paints he> > needs for all the different makes, models, colors, etc. his paint> > supplier gave him a cd that prints out the formula he needs to> > mix. The program on the cd needs to run on at least Win 98, or up> > OS. I have 7 cd's of W98. All legal, all with their COA's etc. The> > problem, they are all OEM/full versions, I have no upgrade cd.> >> >  > >> > I know I could wipe the system and just do a clean install, but> > with it being a P Bell, I am afraid of being able to find the> > drivers I will need to re-install. And, I'm lazy. :) All this> > system is going to do, is sit in a shop and spit out a numerical> > paint formula, I don't need any bells or whistles. Is there any> > way I can "trick" the Win 98 full version so that I do an upgrade> > from the Win 95 (also legal version) to 98?> >> >  > >> > I'm headed over to Google to do a little searching, but I know> > there is a tremendous amount of knowledge on this board, so I> > thought I would throw it out there.> >> >  > >> > Any and all help, suggestions, etc. appreciated.> >> >  > >> > Harvey> >> >  > >> > hbest> >> >> > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win a trip to> > Africa Upgrade today> > > >> >> > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of > > a lifetime Learn More. > > <%20http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx>> Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More.

Re: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harry McGregor]

That will nuke the registry, and will NOT be an upgrade, but a 
reinstall, and most programs installed will not run without 
reinstalling, and the drivers will not be kept.


   Harry

Harvey Best wrote:


*I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows 
keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package 
instead of a full install package?*


 


*How to do it : *

*Windows ME/98/95*

You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type 
the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It 
will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just 
restart the computer and install windows.


*Windows XP*

You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally 
installed without formatting the drive



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:11:52 -0400
Subject: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of
upgrade cd

I know, you are already scratching your head wondering if I am
insane. Am doing a little job for a friend of mine. He has an old
Packard Bell (I know, I know), an Intel (ditto, ditto) 233, and
only 24 megs of ram. He has a body shop. To mix the paints he
needs for all the different makes, models, colors, etc. his paint
supplier gave him a cd that prints out the formula he needs to
mix. The program on the cd needs to run on at least Win 98, or up
OS. I have 7 cd's of W98. All legal, all with their COA's etc. The
problem, they are all OEM/full versions, I have no upgrade cd.

 


I know I could wipe the system and just do a clean install, but
with it being a P Bell, I am afraid of being able to find the
drivers I will need to re-install. And, I'm lazy. :) All this
system is going to do, is sit in a shop and spit out a numerical
paint formula, I don't need any bells or whistles. Is there any
way I can "trick" the Win 98 full version so that I do an upgrade
from the Win 95 (also legal version) to 98?

 


I'm headed over to Google to do a little searching, but I know
there is a tremendous amount of knowledge on this board, so I
thought I would throw it out there.

 


Any and all help, suggestions, etc. appreciated.

 


Harvey

 


hbest



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RE: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

I found this (listed below). Would it get me to 98, or would Windows keep "seeing" the old Windows and tell me I need an upgrade package instead of a full install package?
 
How to do it : 
Windows ME/98/95
You boot up with a Windows ME/98/95 boot disk into MSDOS mode and type the following command from the A:\ prompt  "DELTREE C:\WINDOWS". It will take several minutes for this to work but once finished just restart the computer and install windows.
Windows XP
You install Windows in the same directory as it was originally installed without formatting the drive


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comDate: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:11:52 -0400Subject: [H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd



I know, you are already scratching your head wondering if I am insane. Am doing a little job for a friend of mine. He has an old Packard Bell (I know, I know), an Intel (ditto, ditto) 233, and only 24 megs of ram. He has a body shop. To mix the paints he needs for all the different makes, models, colors, etc. his paint supplier gave him a cd that prints out the formula he needs to mix. The program on the cd needs to run on at least Win 98, or up OS. I have 7 cd's of W98. All legal, all with their COA's etc. The problem, they are all OEM/full versions, I have no upgrade cd. 
 
I know I could wipe the system and just do a clean install, but with it being a P Bell, I am afraid of being able to find the drivers I will need to re-install. And, I'm lazy. :) All this system is going to do, is sit in a shop and spit out a numerical paint formula, I don't need any bells or whistles. Is there any way I can "trick" the Win 98 full version so that I do an upgrade from the Win 95 (also legal version) to 98? 
 
I'm headed over to Google to do a little searching, but I know there is a tremendous amount of knowledge on this board, so I thought I would throw it out there.
 
Any and all help, suggestions, etc. appreciated.
 
Harvey
 
hbest

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[H] OT Need to upgrade with full version instead of upgrade cd

[Harvey Best]

I know, you are already scratching your head wondering if I am insane. Am doing a little job for a friend of mine. He has an old Packard Bell (I know, I know), an Intel (ditto, ditto) 233, and only 24 megs of ram. He has a body shop. To mix the paints he needs for all the different makes, models, colors, etc. his paint supplier gave him a cd that prints out the formula he needs to mix. The program on the cd needs to run on at least Win 98, or up OS. I have 7 cd's of W98. All legal, all with their COA's etc. The problem, they are all OEM/full versions, I have no upgrade cd. 
 
I know I could wipe the system and just do a clean install, but with it being a P Bell, I am afraid of being able to find the drivers I will need to re-install. And, I'm lazy. :) All this system is going to do, is sit in a shop and spit out a numerical paint formula, I don't need any bells or whistles. Is there any way I can "trick" the Win 98 full version so that I do an upgrade from the Win 95 (also legal version) to 98? 
 
I'm headed over to Google to do a little searching, but I know there is a tremendous amount of knowledge on this board, so I thought I would throw it out there.
 
Any and all help, suggestions, etc. appreciated.
 
Harvey
 
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Re: [H] News as junk mail

[Jeff Lane]

I guess when that big spammer, don't recall the name, was prosecuted, and 
turned state's evidence, the rats scurried for cover. It looks like they are 
coming out again.


Jeff


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [H] News as junk mail






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:26 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] News as junk mail

Has any one else noticed that a lot of junk mail has been coming in the
form of news headlines, I get about 30 or so a day. Earthlink is catching
them but I am just wondering if this is something common.what will 
they

think of next

Mark

Mark Dodge


That seems to be the newest wrinkle.. The sewage slowed for awhile as the
Spammers retooled..
SpamPal catches them all.. But I noticed this one too..

Bill

RE: [H] News as junk mail

[Bill]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:26 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: [H] News as junk mail
> 
> Has any one else noticed that a lot of junk mail has been coming in the
> form of news headlines, I get about 30 or so a day. Earthlink is catching
> them but I am just wondering if this is something common.what will they
> think of next
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Dodge

That seems to be the newest wrinkle.. The sewage slowed for awhile as the
Spammers retooled..
SpamPal catches them all.. But I noticed this one too..

Bill

[H] News as junk mail

[Mark]

Has any one else noticed that a lot of junk mail has been coming in the form of 
news headlines, I get about 30 or so a day. Earthlink is catching them but I am 
just wondering if this is something common.what will they think of next

Mark

Mark Dodge

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RE: [SPAM SUSPECT] RE: [H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default save folder

[Bobby Heid]

Hmm, Outlook XP here at work remembers where I lasted saved something and
uses that for the next save.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington (S) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:41 AM
To: Bobby Heid; The Hardware List
Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] RE: [H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default
save folder
Importance: Low


At 09:28 AM 30/05/2006, Bobby Heid wrote:
>IIRC, outlook saves to the last place that it saved before.  As 
>such, if you permanently modify the save as location, then all stuff 
>will want to save there.  Is that ok with your users?

If I tell Outlook to save the attachment, it defaults to the My 
Documents folder.  It's only when I open the Excel attachment 
directly from Outlook that Excel changes the default save folder.

T 

Re: [H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default save folder

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 10:07 AM 30/05/2006, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_=C8abla?= wrote:

This works in Ooutlook 2003 with Windows XP:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Security]
"OutlookSecureTempFolder"="C:\\My work directory\\"

I open Excel attachment from Outllok and for "Save as" i got the default
folder "C:\My work directory\".


Ok, thanks.  I'll give that a try.

T 

Re: [H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default save folder

[Lubomír Čabla]

This works in Ooutlook 2003 with Windows XP:
 
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Security]"OutlookSecureTempFolder"="C:\\My work directory\\" 
I open Excel attachment from Outllok and for "Save as" i got the default
folder "C:\My work directory\". 
On 5/30/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 09:28 AM 30/05/2006, Bobby Heid wrote:>IIRC, outlook saves to the last place that it saved before.  As
>such, if you permanently modify the save as location, then all stuff>will want to save there.  Is that ok with your users?If I tell Outlook to save the attachment, it defaults to the MyDocuments folder.  It's only when I open the Excel attachment
directly from Outlook that Excel changes the default save folder.T

RE: [H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default save folder

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 09:28 AM 30/05/2006, Bobby Heid wrote:
IIRC, outlook saves to the last place that it saved before.  As 
such, if you permanently modify the save as location, then all stuff 
will want to save there.  Is that ok with your users?


If I tell Outlook to save the attachment, it defaults to the My 
Documents folder.  It's only when I open the Excel attachment 
directly from Outlook that Excel changes the default save folder.


T 

RE: [H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default save folder

[Bobby Heid]

Title: Message



IIRC, 
outlook saves to the last place that it saved before.  As such, if you 
permanently modify the save as location, then all stuff will want to save 
there.  Is that ok with your users?
 
Bobby

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Lubomír ÈablaSent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:04 
  AMTo: The Hardware ListSubject: Re: [H] Outlook 
  attachments changes Excel default save folder
  I hope this is what do you want:
  http://www.swinc.com/odefpath/ 
  On 5/30/06, Thane 
  Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  I 
was just looking at a laptop which has the following 
problem:  WhenI open Excel and do a Save As, it defaults to My 
Documents.  But if I open an Excel attachment from Outlook and 
do a Save As, it wants tosave in the Local Settings\Temp 
folder.  I can change the folder, butI'd like it to default to 
My Documents.  Anyone know how to do 
  this?T

Re: [H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default save folder

[Lubomír Čabla]

I hope this is what do you want:
http://www.swinc.com/odefpath/ 
On 5/30/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was just looking at a laptop which has the following problem:  WhenI open Excel and do a Save As, it defaults to My Documents.  But if I
open an Excel attachment from Outlook and do a Save As, it wants tosave in the Local Settings\Temp folder.  I can change the folder, butI'd like it to default to My Documents.  Anyone know how to do this?
T

[H] Outlook attachments changes Excel default save folder

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

I was just looking at a laptop which has the following problem:  When 
I open Excel and do a Save As, it defaults to My Documents.  But if I 
open an Excel attachment from Outlook and do a Save As, it wants to 
save in the Local Settings\Temp folder.  I can change the folder, but 
I'd like it to default to My Documents.  Anyone know how to do this?


T

Re: [H] XP Pro and two NICs

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 03:27 AM 30/05/2006, warpmedia wrote:
Is it that the NIC attached to the DSL won't get a new IP or is it a 
metric issue where the internal network becomes the preferred route?


The NIC attached to the DSL get's it's IP even before I do a fix, but 
it appears that the internal network becomes the preferred route.


Sounds to me like you are trying to ICS to share the DSL with the 
internal network? This would be a non-issue if using a 
router/firewall appliance to deal with the DSL connectivity.


Actually, they don't want the internal network to have internet 
access (I suggested putting in a router but they don't want anyone on 
the other computers to be able to waste time on the net.)  I'm 
replacing an older machine that had this hardware config but was 
running Win98, and they wanted it replicated.


T