Re: [H] When will we see DX10 Video Cards?
Just wait 'til vista comes out and get/build a new machine on that platform. Then upgrade. That way, you won't have to let your hard earned dollars burn a hole in your pockets. :) GPL wrote: :: I have done a lot of reading over the weeks. Reading a lot of :: conflicting information. I'm holding off on building a new PC because :: I'm not sure if DX10 cards will be out Early 2007 or Late 2007! I am :: betting there are people on this list that have been in the biz with :: the info and able to get a better read on what might happen better :: than I can. :: :: I know I will need vista to use DX10. I dont want it. I am fine with :: XP. I know I will need it. WHY? I'm a private pilot that is not able :: to fly as much as I would like and spend a lot of spare time inside :: Microsofts Flight Simulator. FSX is out and will utilize DX10, and :: its killing a lot of so-called high end machines out there now. My :: P4 3.2, 1GB DDR Ram, ATI 9800XT 256MB rig surely will fall to its :: knees. I have saved enough to build NOW, but am trying with all my :: might to be PATIENT and wait. :: :: If its going to be a year before we see DX10 cards, maybe I'll just :: pull the trigger and build the best dual core PC I can muster with my :: hard saved funds. If its a few months out I'll wait. :: :: BUT NOT KNOWING IS A DIFFICULT PILL TO SWALLOW! Especially when you :: are ready NOW. :: :: What do you folks think? :: :: Thanks!
[H] mem question
OK so I have a really old machine. I'd like to think that it might be "PC66" but now I'm not so sure. It is EDO ram. NOT SDRAM. Got some new DIMMS today, but they do not fit. They were/are SDRAM. At least they are based on where the notches in the DIMM(s) are. Have RMA needs and is in process (tomorrow). They were EDO by chip specs, though. Does anyone have pointers/links to when/what the JIDEC specs are for DIMMS? Looking for the spacing of the locating notches and/or socket specs for the 168-pin pwbas. I've forgotten way too much. I apologize. Just want to get a very OLD dinosaur to run W2K/SP4 @512MB, which mpc.com tells me is possible. I need to retire from this hobby.. One day maybe! Thanks, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
[H] ot-Calling Jim Edwards
Jim, Please contact me off channel. I have a question for you about hwg email routing. Thanks, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] mem question
The first EDO were on SIMMS = Single Inline Memory Module = FPM (Fast Page Mode) and EDO (Extended Data Out) that improved the speed of FPM. Most earlier EDO SIMM boards you could run either FPM or EDO SIMMS, but you were advised not to mix them. EDO SIMMS have to be run in pairs. Next came EDO DIMMS and then SDRAM DIMMS Sounds like you have EDO SIMMS. You can buy these on Ebay up to 128 X 2 = 256 but rare. Most were up to 64 X 2 = 128. This makes me think back to the first time I ever ordered RAM for my PC, a AST 486DX33 in 1993. 4 megs of Samsung FPM for about 160 dollars. At 03:11 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote: OK so I have a really old machine. I'd like to think that it might be "PC66" but now I'm not so sure. It is EDO ram. NOT SDRAM. Got some new DIMMS today, but they do not fit. They were/are SDRAM. At least they are based on where the notches in the DIMM(s) are. Have RMA needs and is in process (tomorrow). They were EDO by chip specs, though. Does anyone have pointers/links to when/what the JIDEC specs are for DIMMS? Looking for the spacing of the locating notches and/or socket specs for the 168-pin pwbas. I've forgotten way too much. I apologize. Just want to get a very OLD dinosaur to run W2K/SP4 @512MB, which mpc.com tells me is possible. I need to retire from this hobby.. One day maybe! Thanks, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] mem question
WinterLight, Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Excuse me. I do know just what I have. They are not SIMMS. They are DIMMS. 168 pins. Notch spacing is the important part! No, I do need EDO DIMMS. With 168 pins, AND, the spacing twixt the center notch and the edge notch to be correct. It's that 0.050 inch that counts for everything. I hope to get there. I may even have to go ECC to get there. Shucks. ... :) Yes, I do understand the history. To bad this old blaster can not take RIMMs, plain old SDRAM DIMMs, or DDR DIMMs. Just too bad. I'll march on. Thanks, Duncan On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:43 , Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > >The first EDO were on SIMMS = Single Inline Memory Module = FPM (Fast Page >Mode) and EDO (Extended Data Out) that improved the speed of FPM. Most >earlier EDO SIMM boards you could run either FPM or EDO SIMMS, but you were >advised not to mix them. EDO SIMMS have to be run in pairs. > >Next came EDO DIMMS and then SDRAM DIMMS > >Sounds like you have EDO SIMMS. You can buy these on Ebay up to 128 X 2 = >256 but rare. Most were up to 64 X 2 = 128. > >This makes me think back to the first time I ever ordered RAM for my PC, a >AST 486DX33 in 1993. 4 megs of Samsung FPM for about 160 dollars. > > > >At 03:11 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote: > >>OK so I have a really old machine. I'd like to think that it might be >>"PC66" but now I'm not >>so sure. It is EDO ram. NOT SDRAM. >> >>Got some new DIMMS today, but they do not fit. They were/are SDRAM. At >>least they are >>based on where the notches in the DIMM(s) are. Have RMA needs and is in >>process (tomorrow). >>They were EDO by chip specs, though. >> >>Does anyone have pointers/links to when/what the JIDEC specs are for >>DIMMS? Looking for >>the spacing of the locating notches and/or socket specs for the 168-pin pwbas. >> >>I've forgotten way too much. I apologize. Just want to get a very OLD >>dinosaur to run >>W2K/SP4 @512MB, which mpc.com tells me is possible. >> >>I need to retire from this hobby.. One day maybe! >>Thanks, >>Duncan >> >> >> >> >>This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] mem question
Hi Duncan, EDO dimms came in two versions, both 168Pin. You could have 3/3.3 volt, and 5 volt EDO dimms. Finding EDO dimms over 64MB can be hard, and over 128 MB without being registered ECC (both must be supported by the chipset). Most chipsets of that time could only address 64mbit chips, which resulted in a 64MB 8 chip dimm or 128MB 16 chip dimm. What chipset is on the board, and how many slots? Does it have both 72pin simm slots, and one or two dimm slots? Harry dhs wrote: OK so I have a really old machine. I'd like to think that it might be "PC66" but now I'm not so sure. It is EDO ram. NOT SDRAM. Got some new DIMMS today, but they do not fit. They were/are SDRAM. At least they are based on where the notches in the DIMM(s) are. Have RMA needs and is in process (tomorrow). They were EDO by chip specs, though. Does anyone have pointers/links to when/what the JIDEC specs are for DIMMS? Looking for the spacing of the locating notches and/or socket specs for the 168-pin pwbas. I've forgotten way too much. I apologize. Just want to get a very OLD dinosaur to run W2K/SP4 @512MB, which mpc.com tells me is possible. I need to retire from this hobby.. One day maybe! Thanks, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
