Re: [H] trying to setup a second WAP
Although they are called routers I suspect they are not proper routers so the 1st device may not be able to route to a second internal subnet, even if you have been able to configure it in some way. Try giving the 2nd device an address like 192.168.1.100 and see what happens. Check the arp table on the 1st device to see what appears in there - you should see the mac address of the 2nd device plus it's IP address. - Original Message - From: Chris Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: FW: [H] trying to setup a second WAP It actually appears to be working now. The first Linksys is giving out a 192.168.1.x IP address, and I can get to the internet. I can open up the config properties for the first router(192.168.1.1. However, I can't reach the 192.168.2.1 router to make config changes. Are you able to reach yours? Thanks again, Chris -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 05/01/2007 11:11
RE: [H] trying to setup a second WAP
Everything at this point is working fine, except I can't get to the 192.168.2.1 address. I guess it's not *that* big of a deal. I can create a static route in the first router, however, nothing appears to work no matter what I put in. I can't ping from the 192.168.1.1 router to the 192.168.2.1 router. I don't know if it's feasible at all at this point. There is no mention anywhere of router2, in router1. Unless it's some config/file somewhere that I don't have access to. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:34 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] trying to setup a second WAP Although they are called routers I suspect they are not proper routers so the 1st device may not be able to route to a second internal subnet, even if you have been able to configure it in some way. Try giving the 2nd device an address like 192.168.1.100 and see what happens. Check the arp table on the 1st device to see what appears in there - you should see the mac address of the 2nd device plus it's IP address. - Original Message - From: Chris Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: FW: [H] trying to setup a second WAP It actually appears to be working now. The first Linksys is giving out a 192.168.1.x IP address, and I can get to the internet. I can open up the config properties for the first router(192.168.1.1. However, I can't reach the 192.168.2.1 router to make config changes. Are you able to reach yours? Thanks again, Chris -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 05/01/2007 11:11
Re: [H] trying to setup a second WAP
Hello Chris, Sunday, January 7, 2007, 12:16:45 AM, you wrote: I have a WRT54G connected to my cable modem. It provides WPA2 Wireless G access to several devices in my apartment, along with a cat 5 connection to my main computer. Something you may want to check into (super-charge your LinkSys) http://www.sveasoft.com/ -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] trying to setup a second WAP
More like super-lame. They got $40 from me, not a dime more, too many problems with Talisman. I've switched to DD-WRT and have had no headaches since. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT http://www.dd-wrt.com/ JOEUSER wrote: Hello Chris, Sunday, January 7, 2007, 12:16:45 AM, you wrote: I have a WRT54G connected to my cable modem. It provides WPA2 Wireless G access to several devices in my apartment, along with a cat 5 connection to my main computer. Something you may want to check into (super-charge your LinkSys) http://www.sveasoft.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: FW: [H] trying to setup a second WAP
I would assume the firewall on the slaved router would filter the IANA subnet, but if it's getting IANA IP via DHCP though it's WAN port from LAN port of master router then you'd think it would just work. Say that 3 time fast! Also, I'd put the GS on the border with DD-WRT before I'd put the older G version there. I'd definitely run DD-WRT on both though with the internal slave running a static IP from the master's subnet leave slave's DHCP running serving a second subnet for it's wireless clients. Of course, here I would disable both DHCP servers since I run a Win2K DC hosting DHCP DNS which work together keeping my local domain DNS straight. Chris Klein wrote: H...didn't think about that. And all of my devices will get an IP address assigned to them from the first/main router, correct? I won't really have any devices plugged into the second one, it's mainly just for wireless. I just tired it and it's not working. Do you have Linksys products at your house? If so I have some specific questions...nothing I try is working -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary VanderMolen You need to plug the cable from the WRT54G into a LAN (not WAN) port on the secondary router. I have a similar setup in my house. In essence that turns the WRT54GS into a switch rather than a router. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[H] Difference between MacBook and Pro?
Finally going to get one and trying to figure out where the differences are. All I can see so far is 2.0 vs 2.33 Core2 Duo and and a double-layer SuperDrive. Anything else I am missing? -- Brian
Re: [H] Difference between MacBook and Pro?
That's it. Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:40:01 To:hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Difference between MacBook and Pro? Finally going to get one and trying to figure out where the differences are. All I can see so far is 2.0 vs 2.33 Core2 Duo and and a double-layer SuperDrive. Anything else I am missing? -- Brian
Re: [H] Consumer reports smokes crack
Ok, I'll revisit this one last time. From experience, these options are necessities. Not in the sense that the laptop stops functioning but in the sense that it becomes hard to use the laptop in both home mobile uses with major hassles money loss. Until I got a spare PSU I'd find myself either willing to chance dying mobile rather than get on the floor under my desk unplug the it because it was a bitch to get out and to put back later. Batteries may last longer per-charge today, but they have a longer overall lifetime if used in pairs because you can run them same as single w/o deep-cycling them thus preventing premature wear out. Mouse I would concede with the poke of let's see you use a trackpad for more than 15 minutes. They are a real PITA but OK, you could go without lugging a usb mouse. Sometimes optimal vs. unnecessary is defined not by absolutes but by mitigating factors of everyday life. Greg Sevart wrote: You're arguing that a laptop is essentially unusable in a mobile capacity without a spare battery, spare power adapter, and USB mouse? Funny, our salespeople do it all the time. With current models hitting 5+ hours of battery life, none of those are -essential-. Yes, it is a minor point that we've spent too much time on. Most people just have a really absurd view of what is needed/necessary and what is optimal/nice-to-have. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 6:50 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Consumer reports smokes crack Laptop implies mobile, which makes all of those absolutely necessary. Whatever, too much thought on too small a problem T. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Perhaps the reviewer considers those items to be essential to a serious laptop user. For example, if you travel and use a laptop exclusively...they might be essential. Thane Sherrington wrote: At 07:58 AM 03/01/2007, j maccraw wrote: Certainly they are essential! Dictionary.com disagrees: es.sen.tial -adjective 1. absolutely necessary; indispensable: Discipline is essential in an army. The laptop would function fine without any of these. That makes them non-essential. Very nice to have, perhaps. Extremely useful. But not essential. T __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [H] Here comes the terabyte hard drive
Downloaded content like music video comes to mind. Backup will be #2 use for Blue-ray or HDDVD burners when the become cheap enough. Certainly not often or even in frequent 1 shot full backup situation, but needs some degree of backup none the less. If my 100GB+ of Mp3's died I'd loose both time money replacing them if not for some degree of backups. So I incremental backup to DVD-R every few months, full once a year or so. In a few years households will have multi-TB NAS setups (likely with built in high capacity discs burners or removable /or spare HDD's for backups) simply because files is how all content is going to end up and inaccessibility will be king. MP3 Video's like TV shows/movies which are just easier to enjoy when stored centrally and accessed from menus rather than digging out a CD or DVD disc. Storage is cheap, buy a few 1TB drives, use one for main storage, another for online backups, a 3rd for offline backups, etc... Greg Sevart wrote: Is there really 1.0TB of home user data that needs to be backed up? I run nightly backups on my machine. Out of over 4TB, there's only about 15GB that I consider essential enough to back up. On the commercial side, the problem already exists with storage arrays of multiple TB or more. High-dollar LTO-3 autoloaders can resolve the backup situation there. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhs Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:56 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Here comes the terabyte hard drive Nice news! But, has anybody thought about backup apps for HD's this big? If I had a drive of 1TB, it would take me about a week to do a backup with a dual P3-1Gz server!! LOL!! I'll wait for Seagate, although I've had very good service from the Hitachi replacement drives in my server. I do like the 7Kx series of HDs from Hitachi. Maybe 'old' IBM drives, but, they are still very strong HDs. Best, Duncan On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:36 , Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: http://news.com.com/Here+comes+the+terabyte+hard+drive/2100-1041- 6147409.html?part=dhttag=nl.e703 Last year, Hitachi Global Storage Technologies predicted hard-drive companies would announce 1 terabyte drives by the end of 2006. Hitachi was only off by a few days. The company said on Thursday that it will come out with a 3.5-inch-diameter 1 terabyte drive for desktops in the first quarter, then follow up in the second quarter with 3.5-inch terabyte drives for digital video recorders, bundled with software called Audio-Visual Storage Manager for easier retrieval of data, and corporate storage systems. The Deskstar 7K1000 will cost $399 when it comes out. That comes to about 40 cents a gigabyte. Hitachi will also come out with a similar 750GB drive. Rival Seagate Technology will come out with a 1 terabyte drive in the first half of 2007. This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [H] Consumer reports smokes crack
At 04:50 PM 07/01/2007, j maccraw wrote: Ok, I'll revisit this one last time. From experience, these options are necessities. Not in the sense that the laptop stops functioning but in the sense that it becomes hard to use the laptop in both home mobile uses with major hassles money loss. I've been using laptop for slightly over two years with a single battery, power adapter, and touchpad. I do a lot of work, and this configuration has never let me down. Now I can imagine situations where these additions would be a necessity, but they are very specific and generally unusual (from the Consumer Reports average reader's standpoint.) So yes, you have a point that in very specific situations these extras become essential but if one is going to do that, then the sky's the limit. Consumer Reports is a magazine aimed at the average casual buyer - not the hard core user, who already knows what he needs. So in this case they are wrong and they are misleading their subscribers. T
Re: [H] Consumer reports smokes crack
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 04:50 PM 07/01/2007, j maccraw wrote: Ok, I'll revisit this one last time. From experience, these options are necessities. Not in the sense that the laptop stops functioning but in the sense that it becomes hard to use the laptop in both home mobile uses with major hassles money loss. I've been using laptop for slightly over two years with a single battery, power adapter, and touchpad. I do a lot of work, and this configuration has never let me down. Now I can imagine situations where these additions would be a necessity, but they are very specific and generally unusual (from the Consumer Reports average reader's standpoint.) So yes, you have a point that in very specific situations these extras become essential but if one is going to do that, then the sky's the limit. Consumer Reports is a magazine aimed at the average casual buyer - not the hard core user, who already knows what he needs. So in this case they are wrong and they are misleading their subscribers. T 1) you cannot assume that because you use your LT a lot that you use it the same way as others who travel a lot do. Do you travel a lot? Your needs are dictated by not only how much you use it but also by how you use it and how you PREFER to use it. I think the reviewer simply has different notions or sensibilities than you do. 2) Consumer Reports is targeted to the consumerand some of those consumers may not be so average in all ways. Some may look to CR to save time. The term essential as used in the article is just a typical misuse of a wordbut this is commonly done in language to day. I consider, in this case, essential to mean recommend or something to consider strongly. I think way too much is being made of this point.
Re: [H] Consumer reports smokes crack
I've been using laptop for slightly over two years with a single battery, power adapter, and touchpad. I do a lot of work, and this configuration has never let me down. Now I can imagine situations where these additions would be a necessity, but they are very specific and generally unusual (from the Consumer Reports average reader's standpoint.) So yes, you have a point that in very specific situations these extras become essential but if one is going to do that, then the sky's the limit. Consumer Reports is a magazine aimed at the average casual buyer - not the hard core user, who already knows what he needs. So in this case they are wrong and they are misleading their subscribers. I just spent the last several minutes on consumerreports.org looking over their comments on laptop. I saw several pages of fairly decent comments on laptop. I no way would one get the impression that they are misleading anyone. Overall, it seems to be fairly balanced and non-remarkable coverage.
Re: [H] trying to setup a second WAP
In order to see both routers (and modem) config screens, I had to set the subnet mask of the first router to 255.255.0.0. Gary VanderMolen - Original Message - From: Chris Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:46 PM Subject: FW: [H] trying to setup a second WAP It actually appears to be working now. The first Linksys is giving out a 192.168.1.x IP address, and I can get to the internet. I can open up the config properties for the first router(192.168.1.1. However, I can't reach the 192.168.2.1 router to make config changes. Are you able to reach yours?
Re: [H] Consumer reports smokes crack
Considering many of the corps. I've deal with sent their people out with batteries that hold no charge there are extremes at both ends where you could still call it functional. By my own admission functionality was lost as I would gamble (and had it bite me a few times) rather than hassle with getting at my PSU. Yet not so much by not having a mouse with me. Batteries I stand fast on advising running in pairs as in your nuts if you don't, but you can run with one. I agree the problem is the word being used and splitting hairs over it rather than seeing it for what it should be which is strongly recommended as has been suggested. Greg Sevart wrote: Can you not recognize that you are the exception, not the norm? MOST users do not need a spare battery or PSU. Even our salespeople, who do travel frequently, do not have these extras...and they do just fine. Believe me, if they requested them, they would get them. You really make my point, though. Essential in this context implies required to perform a job. By your own admission, functionality is not lost; they merely make things easier and save some time---a definitive nice-to-have. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 2:50 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Consumer reports smokes crack Ok, I'll revisit this one last time. From experience, these options are necessities. Not in the sense that the laptop stops functioning but in the sense that it becomes hard to use the laptop in both home mobile uses with major hassles money loss. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [H] trying to setup a second WAP
Likely then what you need is 255.255.252.0 mask if the slave is 192.168.2.1 master 192.168.1.1. If their same subnet, then you have a kludge by ignoring some of the network bits. Gary VanderMolen wrote: In order to see both routers (and modem) config screens, I had to set the subnet mask of the first router to 255.255.0.0. Gary VanderMolen - Original Message - From: Chris Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:46 PM Subject: FW: [H] trying to setup a second WAP It actually appears to be working now. The first Linksys is giving out a 192.168.1.x IP address, and I can get to the internet. I can open up the config properties for the first router(192.168.1.1. However, I can't reach the 192.168.2.1 router to make config changes. Are you able to reach yours? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard
I think you mean Pentium 4-M...there are no P-M's at 3.06GHz. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:29 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like to use it in some sort of desktop system.
Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard
Yes, sorry. Greg Sevart wrote: I think you mean Pentium 4-M...there are no P-M's at 3.06GHz. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:29 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like to use it in some sort of desktop system.
Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard
One of my servers is a 2 gig pentium-M using the AOpen i915GMm-HFS. Rock solid and stable with pretty good TV-output too. lopaka Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like to use it in some sort of desktop system.
