Re: [H] Overheating laptop
Well, I suppose I reacted to the "possible" crack in a sealed tube of liquid. I thought the pipes were solid. H.. :) I do have experience with solid heatpipes. Yes, it was years ago. If all the 'new' ones use liquid, this is a good improvement. I can deal with this forward progress.. :) Thank you for bringing me up to speed about 'heatpipes.' Great share. Now I'm a bit more forward. And, in the future, I will search for heatpipe-type cooler solutions. Right now. Don't need any help. It's all good here with ThermalRight. My share holds. Believe the heatsink may be toast. Best, Duncan At 03:43 01/31/2008 +, you wrote: On 31 Jan 2008, at 01:57, DHSinclair wrote: Well, I do not know the actual construction of the 'suspect' heatsink. Thane is way up north. I am way south and west of him. Snot like I got to put 'eyes' on the problem. I read here it was of the new "heatpipe" varieties. I have no experience with a "heatpipe" type HS yet. I still live in the solid metal chunk heatsink world. They are tough to fail, but I have read about trouble here too! But, I do understand the basic physics that a "heatpipe" plays with. So, I agreed with Thane that it seems that the HS is toast and needs replacement. I was not aware that the heatpipe's might have some sort of liquid as a transfer agent. I thought the current crop of heatpipes used solid tubes to transfer heat to the "radiator." No matter, whether liquid-filled or solid, if any of the "pipes" have broken with the base, the device is toast IMHO. Perhaps I am way off base. I can hang with that. Best, For it to qualify as a heatpipe, it has to be a hollow tube filled with a liquid that has a low boiling point (in a lot of cases this is merely extremely low pressure water) I've never heard of one failing, but I suppose it's possible for one to spring a leak or something of that nature. -JB
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
On 31 Jan 2008, at 01:57, DHSinclair wrote: Well, I do not know the actual construction of the 'suspect' heatsink. Thane is way up north. I am way south and west of him. Snot like I got to put 'eyes' on the problem. I read here it was of the new "heatpipe" varieties. I have no experience with a "heatpipe" type HS yet. I still live in the solid metal chunk heatsink world. They are tough to fail, but I have read about trouble here too! But, I do understand the basic physics that a "heatpipe" plays with. So, I agreed with Thane that it seems that the HS is toast and needs replacement. I was not aware that the heatpipe's might have some sort of liquid as a transfer agent. I thought the current crop of heatpipes used solid tubes to transfer heat to the "radiator." No matter, whether liquid-filled or solid, if any of the "pipes" have broken with the base, the device is toast IMHO. Perhaps I am way off base. I can hang with that. Best, For it to qualify as a heatpipe, it has to be a hollow tube filled with a liquid that has a low boiling point (in a lot of cases this is merely extremely low pressure water) I've never heard of one failing, but I suppose it's possible for one to spring a leak or something of that nature. -JB
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
Well, I do not know the actual construction of the 'suspect' heatsink. Thane is way up north. I am way south and west of him. Snot like I got to put 'eyes' on the problem. I read here it was of the new "heatpipe" varieties. I have no experience with a "heatpipe" type HS yet. I still live in the solid metal chunk heatsink world. They are tough to fail, but I have read about trouble here too! But, I do understand the basic physics that a "heatpipe" plays with. So, I agreed with Thane that it seems that the HS is toast and needs replacement. I was not aware that the heatpipe's might have some sort of liquid as a transfer agent. I thought the current crop of heatpipes used solid tubes to transfer heat to the "radiator." No matter, whether liquid-filled or solid, if any of the "pipes" have broken with the base, the device is toast IMHO. Perhaps I am way off base. I can hang with that. Best, Duncan At 01:16 01/31/2008 +, you wrote: On 31 Jan 2008, at 00:08, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:10 PM 30/01/2008, DHSinclair wrote: OK. I would support your guess. Makes the most sense. And, if the fan is changing speed, the heat logic works. Reads like new heatsink to me. It appears to have been the heatsink. (I had another of the same model lying around so I stole the heatsink from that.) This might be a stupid question.. but... How exactly does a heatsink, which austensibly a chunk of passive metal... fail? warping over time due to heat? -JB
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
On 31 Jan 2008, at 00:08, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:10 PM 30/01/2008, DHSinclair wrote: OK. I would support your guess. Makes the most sense. And, if the fan is changing speed, the heat logic works. Reads like new heatsink to me. It appears to have been the heatsink. (I had another of the same model lying around so I stole the heatsink from that.) This might be a stupid question.. but... How exactly does a heatsink, which austensibly a chunk of passive metal... fail? warping over time due to heat? -JB
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
Nice when a fix works! Best, D At 20:08 01/30/2008 -0400, you wrote: At 05:10 PM 30/01/2008, DHSinclair wrote: OK. I would support your guess. Makes the most sense. And, if the fan is changing speed, the heat logic works. Reads like new heatsink to me. It appears to have been the heatsink. (I had another of the same model lying around so I stole the heatsink from that.) T
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
At 05:10 PM 30/01/2008, DHSinclair wrote: OK. I would support your guess. Makes the most sense. And, if the fan is changing speed, the heat logic works. Reads like new heatsink to me. It appears to have been the heatsink. (I had another of the same model lying around so I stole the heatsink from that.) T
Re: [H] Odd network problem
Hello Wayne, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 2:14:53 PM, you wrote: > At 08:29 PM 1/29/2008, Joe User typed: >>Ugh N - not doing it for awhile. > It works just fine here so I don't know why the Ugh. Standards are solidified now? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] Palm MiniSD cards
At 05:06 PM 30/01/2008, Thane Sherrington wrote: I just bought a Treo 755P and I'm looking for miniSD cards for it. According to Kingston, I can get a 4GB card in either class 2, 4, or 6. What does the class mean? Found it. 2 is 2MB/s, 4 is 4MB/s, etc. T
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
OK. I would support your guess. Makes the most sense. And, if the fan is changing speed, the heat logic works. Reads like new heatsink to me. Best, Duncan At 16:53 01/30/2008 -0400, you wrote: At 04:32 PM 30/01/2008, DHSinclair wrote: Is the heatsink free-standing, or, does it require a physical connection (interference) to some larger metal part for proper thermal dissipation? Odd that the cpu would/could crater in some fashion just to start overheating. You really do find some strange problems. LOL! I see ALL the strange problems. :) It's a heatsink pad that screws onto the motherboard with a pressure connection to the CPU - on top of the pad is a pipe that moves off about 3.5 inches to the side of the case with a fan beside it that blows air across the vanes to cool the coolant liquid inside. So it's possible the thing developed a leak and emptied. T
[H] Palm MiniSD cards
I just bought a Treo 755P and I'm looking for miniSD cards for it. According to Kingston, I can get a 4GB card in either class 2, 4, or 6. What does the class mean? T
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
At 04:33 PM 30/01/2008, Al wrote: Variable speed fan that's not spinning up when needed? Should be able to hear it speed up... I can watch the fan spin up at 62C and it runs faster at 70C but it just can't keep up. Tried a cooling pad with no change. T
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
At 04:32 PM 30/01/2008, DHSinclair wrote: Is the heatsink free-standing, or, does it require a physical connection (interference) to some larger metal part for proper thermal dissipation? Odd that the cpu would/could crater in some fashion just to start overheating. You really do find some strange problems. LOL! I see ALL the strange problems. :) It's a heatsink pad that screws onto the motherboard with a pressure connection to the CPU - on top of the pad is a pipe that moves off about 3.5 inches to the side of the case with a fan beside it that blows air across the vanes to cool the coolant liquid inside. So it's possible the thing developed a leak and emptied. T
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
Is the heatsink free-standing, or, does it require a physical connection (interference) to some larger metal part for proper thermal dissipation? Odd that the cpu would/could crater in some fashion just to start overheating. You really do find some strange problems. LOL! Best, Duncan At 16:15 01/30/2008 -0400, you wrote: I have a laptop that is running about 50C (according to Speedfan, which may be off somewhat) when it is idle, but when I bring the CPU load to 100%, within two minutes it reaches 104C and shutsdown. I have cleaned the heatsink and replaced the thermal compound, but that made minimal change. I've tried a newer BIOS, as it had some power fixes, but that made no difference. Is it the heatsink itself, or could the CPU be failing and running abnormally hot? T
Re: [H] Overheating laptop
Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it the heatsink itself, or > could the CPU be failing and running abnormally hot? Variable speed fan that's not spinning up when needed? Should be able to hear it speed up... Best, Al
Re: [H] Odd network problem
At 04:14 PM 30/01/2008, Wayne Johnson wrote: At 08:29 PM 1/29/2008, Joe User typed: Ugh N - not doing it for awhile. It works just fine here so I don't know why the Ugh. The Intel 4965 chip doesn't work reliably with G routers unless you use the Intel connection software, I've found. But that's not a big deal. I've not gotten a chance to play with an N router yet, and I won't bother with one for myself until I replace my laptop in the next year or two. T
[H] Overheating laptop
I have a laptop that is running about 50C (according to Speedfan, which may be off somewhat) when it is idle, but when I bring the CPU load to 100%, within two minutes it reaches 104C and shutsdown. I have cleaned the heatsink and replaced the thermal compound, but that made minimal change. I've tried a newer BIOS, as it had some power fixes, but that made no difference. Is it the heatsink itself, or could the CPU be failing and running abnormally hot? T
