Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
Hello Jason, Thursday, April 24, 2008, 6:24:30 PM, you wrote: > Greetings, > I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows "parts of > the file which are available" for download as you can see in this > screenshot... > http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png > ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured > I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to > see which has this feature. > Thanks > Jay uTorrent - does that and more, updates when there are bugs or security issues, clean, very low impact/footprint, & stable. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] XP SP RTM?
Cumulative hotfix refresh to 04/2008 patch tuesday release, HD audio, and legit check for MU/WU > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:36:45 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? > > How does the RTM version differ from the RC2 refresh? > > Hayes Elkins wrote: >> >> I gave up and used bittorrent instead. Same crap > with Vista SP1 RTM. Real slap in the face to MSDN > subscribers. >> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >>> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:34:24 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? >>> >>> Haven't tried it yet, but I downloaded it off MS > TechNet. It was posted to >>> TechNet and MSDN yesterday in the Top Downloads > section (not the normal >>> download center). I hate that they do that, but > they use Akamai to >>> distribute new popular items...which seems to be > incompatible with their >>> traditional download center. >>> >>> Greg >>> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:49 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] XP SP RTM? I heard service pack 3 was released to > manufactureTrue? Anyone tried it yet? Gary >>> >>> >> >> > _ >> Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re > ready? >> > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A >> > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _ Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A
Re: [H] XP SP RTM?
Cumulative hotfix refresh to 04/2008 patch tuesday release, HD audio, and legit check for MU/WU > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:36:45 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? > > How does the RTM version differ from the RC2 refresh? > > Hayes Elkins wrote: >> >> I gave up and used bittorrent instead. Same crap > with Vista SP1 RTM. Real slap in the face to MSDN > subscribers. >> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >>> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:34:24 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? >>> >>> Haven't tried it yet, but I downloaded it off MS > TechNet. It was posted to >>> TechNet and MSDN yesterday in the Top Downloads > section (not the normal >>> download center). I hate that they do that, but > they use Akamai to >>> distribute new popular items...which seems to be > incompatible with their >>> traditional download center. >>> >>> Greg >>> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:49 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] XP SP RTM? I heard service pack 3 was released to > manufactureTrue? Anyone tried it yet? Gary >>> >>> >> >> > _ >> Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re > ready? >> > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A >> > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _ Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Locale=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL
Re: [H] UPSes
Well, I went ahead and ordered this: Cyberpower CP1000AVRLCD - USB 1000VA 600W with LCD http://www.provantage.com/cyberpower-cp1000avrlcd~7CYPR03J.htm I decided to try something other than APC since it is not the one that will be connected to my pc. Thanks for all of the suggestions! Bobby
[H] MyRebates411.com
Anyone have experience with this rebate house? I just went thru an 8 month ordeal trying to get a rebate for a Foxconn motherboard purchased from NewEgg. This is the first, and so far only, rebate I have had a problem obtaining. To me, that says a lot about this organization's policies. Just wanted to give you the 411 as I see it on this fraud squad. After eight months, NewEgg is going to refund the rebate although they maintain it is the manufacturer's and rebate house's respondsibility. YMMV and JMHO. Jim Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
The whs plugin is the only thing that makes whs worth considering. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: "Brian Weeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:52:21 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows uTorrent rocks, especially with the RSS loader plugin. Brian On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Jeff Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Utorrent has those features and more. Very easy to use. > > http://www.utorrent.com > > Jeff > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:24 PM > Subject: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows > > > Greetings, > > I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows "parts of > the file which are available" for download as you can see in this > screenshot... > > http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png > > ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured > I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to > see which has this feature. > > Thanks > > Jay > > >
Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
uTorrent rocks, especially with the RSS loader plugin. Brian On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Jeff Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Utorrent has those features and more. Very easy to use. > > http://www.utorrent.com > > Jeff > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:24 PM > Subject: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows > > > Greetings, > > I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows "parts of > the file which are available" for download as you can see in this > screenshot... > > http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png > > ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured > I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to > see which has this feature. > > Thanks > > Jay > > >
Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
Utorrent has those features and more. Very easy to use. http://www.utorrent.com Jeff Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows Greetings, I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows "parts of the file which are available" for download as you can see in this screenshot... http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to see which has this feature. Thanks Jay
Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
Utorrent does basically this. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: "Jason Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:24:30 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows Greetings, I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows "parts of the file which are available" for download as you can see in this screenshot... http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to see which has this feature. Thanks Jay
[H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
Greetings, I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows "parts of the file which are available" for download as you can see in this screenshot... http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to see which has this feature. Thanks Jay
Re: [H] XP SP RTM?
How does the RTM version differ from the RC2 refresh? Hayes Elkins wrote: > > I gave up and used bittorrent instead. Same crap with Vista SP1 RTM. Real slap in the face to MSDN subscribers. > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:34:24 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? >> >> Haven't tried it yet, but I downloaded it off MS TechNet. It was posted to >> TechNet and MSDN yesterday in the Top Downloads section (not the normal >> download center). I hate that they do that, but they use Akamai to >> distribute new popular items...which seems to be incompatible with their >> traditional download center. >> >> Greg >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:49 PM >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >>> Subject: [H] XP SP RTM? >>> >>> I heard service pack 3 was released to manufactureTrue? >>> Anyone tried it yet? >>> >>> Gary >> >> > > _ > Back to work after babyhow do you know when youre ready? > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [H] XP SP RTM?
Well just in case anyone is hit with the GDI patch causing issues: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9077298 JRS wrote: > I put it on one laptop PC, no issues so far. > > It was funny to see SEP pop up and say "NTKernel.exe has changed since the last time it was run, do you want to allow it to continue". hehe.. :) > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [H] XP SP RTM?
I downloaded it last night with Akamai and was get about 450kbs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? I gave up and used bittorrent instead. Same crap with Vista SP1 RTM. Real slap in the face to MSDN subscribers. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:34:24 -0500 > Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? > > Haven't tried it yet, but I downloaded it off MS TechNet. It was posted to > TechNet and MSDN yesterday in the Top Downloads section (not the normal > download center). I hate that they do that, but they use Akamai to > distribute new popular items...which seems to be incompatible with their > traditional download center. > > Greg
Re: [H] Water-cooling
Yes I didn't mention that, I do have an 8CM fan at the front down the bottom pulling air in. Thinking about it though that has been blocked off by a box of junk I put in front of it. I will spend some time over the weekend experimenting with different configurations of air flow within the case and post the results on Monday. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:47 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling Gary, This may be very old-school, but I get the best cooling when I allow air IN from the case front and exhaust warmed air out the back of the case (Lian-Li PC-69's). Does your case have air vents in the front? If not, and all your fans are in the 'exhaust' mode, you may be trying to pull air out of a static pocket. I'd buy into what the Beave said; turn the side cover fans around to blow IN. At least this will give your case positive pressurization. Best, Duncan At 11:55 04/24/2008 -0600, you wrote: >All the fans are pushing the air away from the case. Should I have some >pulling air in and some pushing it out to create more of a flow across >the components? > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Beave >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:59 AM >To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > >The fans on the side door of the case can be a problem. You have the air >going out or going in there? If the air is going outward try making the >air >move inward. This way the air is being pushed from the back of the case. > >I would also make sure the fans on the rear of the case is moving air to >the >back of the case. If you have to, make those move at a higher RPM. > > >Tim "The Beave" Lider >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:32 AM >To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > >My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower >case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: > > > >| | >| X | >| | >| X | >| | >| X X | >| | >- > >The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air >___ >| | >| X X | >| | >| | >| | >| | >| | >--- > >The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe > >Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought >the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. > >The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at >the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration. > > > >If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please >notify the sender >and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and >any attachments >were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of >malicious code. >This message and its attachments could have been infected during >transmission. The >recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so >doing, the >recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take >protective >and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not >liable for any >loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Water-cooling
Beave, Nice PSU! I am envious :) I use the 510W models. At 11:59 04/24/2008 -0700, you wrote: snip BTW, the power Supply is a PC Power Cooling Silencer 750. Regards, Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip
Re: [H] Water-cooling
Gary, This may be very old-school, but I get the best cooling when I allow air IN from the case front and exhaust warmed air out the back of the case (Lian-Li PC-69's). Does your case have air vents in the front? If not, and all your fans are in the 'exhaust' mode, you may be trying to pull air out of a static pocket. I'd buy into what the Beave said; turn the side cover fans around to blow IN. At least this will give your case positive pressurization. Best, Duncan At 11:55 04/24/2008 -0600, you wrote: All the fans are pushing the air away from the case. Should I have some pulling air in and some pushing it out to create more of a flow across the components? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Beave Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:59 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling The fans on the side door of the case can be a problem. You have the air going out or going in there? If the air is going outward try making the air move inward. This way the air is being pushed from the back of the case. I would also make sure the fans on the rear of the case is moving air to the back of the case. If you have to, make those move at a higher RPM. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:32 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: | | | X | | | | X | | | | X X | | | - The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air ___ | | | X X | | | | | | | | | | | --- The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Water-cooling
I would have air going towards the inside of the case to put the air on the components. Have air move out of the case can lead a void spot where there is no air flow. Here's an example of my case: --O-- | | | I | | Video | | | | CPU O | | I HD's PSO - So air goes thru the hard drives to the power supply and out the bottom. Air comes in from the front of the case over to the CPU FAN then out the back. Air is pushed into the case at the Video Card area and is pulled out in a Blow Hole on the top of the case. This works very well in my case. I do use a 680i Asus motherboard, A Zalman CPN9600 CPU fan, an Asus 8800GTX video card. There is no cabling in the way of the components. Even the power supply is kept neatly. BTW, the power Supply is a PC Power Cooling Silencer 750. Regards, Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:56 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling All the fans are pushing the air away from the case. Should I have some pulling air in and some pushing it out to create more of a flow across the components? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Beave Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:59 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling The fans on the side door of the case can be a problem. You have the air going out or going in there? If the air is going outward try making the air move inward. This way the air is being pushed from the back of the case. I would also make sure the fans on the rear of the case is moving air to the back of the case. If you have to, make those move at a higher RPM. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:32 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: | | | X | | | | X | | | | X X | | | - The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air ___ | | | X X | | | | | | | | | | | --- The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Water-cooling
OK, I'll reverse the side fans and see what difference it makes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:30 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling You should have intake air from the front, exhaust through the back. The side fans typically should be intake as they are placed usually above the CPU. > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:55:50 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > All the fans are pushing the air away from the case. Should I have some > pulling air in and some pushing it out to create more of a flow across > the components? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Beave > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:59 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > The fans on the side door of the case can be a problem. You have the air > going out or going in there? If the air is going outward try making the > air > move inward. This way the air is being pushed from the back of the case. > > I would also make sure the fans on the rear of the case is moving air to > the > back of the case. If you have to, make those move at a higher RPM. > > > Tim "The Beave" Lider > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:32 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower > case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: > > > > | | > | X | > | | > | X | > | | > | X X | > | | > - > > The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air > ___ > | | > | X X | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > --- > > The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe > > Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought > the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. > > The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at > the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender > and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments > were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. > This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The > recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the > recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective > and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any > loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. > > > _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Ref resh_realtime_042008 If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Water-cooling
You should have intake air from the front, exhaust through the back. The side fans typically should be intake as they are placed usually above the CPU. > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:55:50 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > All the fans are pushing the air away from the case. Should I have some > pulling air in and some pushing it out to create more of a flow across > the components? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Beave > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:59 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > The fans on the side door of the case can be a problem. You have the air > going out or going in there? If the air is going outward try making the > air > move inward. This way the air is being pushed from the back of the case. > > I would also make sure the fans on the rear of the case is moving air to > the > back of the case. If you have to, make those move at a higher RPM. > > > Tim "The Beave" Lider > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:32 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower > case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: > > > > | | > | X | > | | > | X | > | | > | X X | > | | > - > > The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air > ___ > | | > | X X | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > --- > > The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe > > Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought > the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. > > The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at > the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify > the sender > and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any > attachments > were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious > code. > This message and its attachments could have been infected during > transmission. The > recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, > the > recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take > protective > and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable > for any > loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. > > > _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008
Re: [H] Water-cooling
All the fans are pushing the air away from the case. Should I have some pulling air in and some pushing it out to create more of a flow across the components? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Beave Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:59 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling The fans on the side door of the case can be a problem. You have the air going out or going in there? If the air is going outward try making the air move inward. This way the air is being pushed from the back of the case. I would also make sure the fans on the rear of the case is moving air to the back of the case. If you have to, make those move at a higher RPM. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:32 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: | | | X | | | | X | | | | X X | | | - The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air ___ | | | X X | | | | | | | | | | | --- The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
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Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:58 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1194 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:33:03 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > Any suggestions on a utility that will keep a log file? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:59 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > > I would run a utility to record GPU temps while gaming to gauge what > kind of heat you are outputing before crashing. The 9600GT's run > relatively cool and again I seriously doubt heat is causing the issue. > What NV driver are you using? > > >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:19:41 -0600 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling >> >> I agree 100% and I was trying to get that across in my note. The X38 > is >> head and shoulders better than the 780i. It's just that I had a > burning >> desire to play with SLI. >> >> I think the crashes are certainly heat related as they will only > happen >> whilst I have been playing games for a while. >> >> I am considering swapping out the 9600GT for a 9800GT2 but the NB temp >> is still very concerning, the StrikerII motherboard is the big issue >> here. It's a piece of crap. >> >> So with all that said. I would like to get the 780 running stable just >> because I'm not going to let it get the better of me. (I still have > the >> X38 so will probably switch it back eventually) >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:07 AM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling >> >> >> No offense, but I would call going from an x38 to a 780i a downgrade, >> not an upgrade, unless you must have SLI - and even then I'm not sure > of >> the value/performance ratio of two 9600GTs vs a single 9800GTX. >> >> Water cooling should not be required in a non-overclocked system these >> days, even an SLI rig. You have much deeper problems than heat if you >> are experiencing crashes like that. I wouldn't suspect power either. >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:37:33 -0600 >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >>> Subject: [H] Water-cooling >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Since swapping out my Asus Maximus Formula (X38) for an Asus Striker >> II >>> Formula (780i) my system temperature has jumped a whopping 10 degrees >>> and crashes frequently. I know the Maximus is a far superior board > and >>> chipset but I wanted to play with SLI so I had to go nForce even just >>> temporarily until I give up with the whole SLI thing :-( >>> >>> So I was thinking if I really want this to work I should go for a >> liquid >>> cooling solution. I am currently looking at the Zalman Reserator XT >> and >>> will certainly use it to cool both my CPU and Northbridge. I was >>> wondering could I also plug the GFX card inline or would it reduce > the >>> effectiveness too much (2 x G9600 GT SSC)? Some WWW sites say it > would >>> be OK but I trust this list more than random WWW sites. If anyone > else >>> has gone this way yet do you have an practical advice? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Gary Hunter >>> Consulting Engineer - Core Services >>> Travelport GDS >>> T: (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 >>> M:(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 >>> E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> SITA: HDQOK1G >>> Galileo Product Development Center >>> 6901 S Havana St >>> Centennial, CO 80112 >>> >>> >>> >>> If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please >> notify the sender >>> and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message >> and any attachments >>> were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of >> malicious code. >>> This message and its attachments could have been infected during >> transmission. The >>> recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in > so >> doing, the >>> recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to >> take protective >>> and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not >> liable for any >>> loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. >>> >>> >>> >> >> _ >> Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! >> > http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Local >> e=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL >> If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please > notify the sender >> and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message > and any attachments >> were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of > malicious co
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The fans on the side door of the case can be a problem. You have the air going out or going in there? If the air is going outward try making the air move inward. This way the air is being pushed from the back of the case. I would also make sure the fans on the rear of the case is moving air to the back of the case. If you have to, make those move at a higher RPM. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:32 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: | | | X | | | | X | | | | X X | | | - The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air ___ | | | X X | | | | | | | | | | | --- The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration.
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http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1194 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:33:03 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > Any suggestions on a utility that will keep a log file? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:59 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > > I would run a utility to record GPU temps while gaming to gauge what > kind of heat you are outputing before crashing. The 9600GT's run > relatively cool and again I seriously doubt heat is causing the issue. > What NV driver are you using? > > >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:19:41 -0600 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling >> >> I agree 100% and I was trying to get that across in my note. The X38 > is >> head and shoulders better than the 780i. It's just that I had a > burning >> desire to play with SLI. >> >> I think the crashes are certainly heat related as they will only > happen >> whilst I have been playing games for a while. >> >> I am considering swapping out the 9600GT for a 9800GT2 but the NB temp >> is still very concerning, the StrikerII motherboard is the big issue >> here. It's a piece of crap. >> >> So with all that said. I would like to get the 780 running stable just >> because I'm not going to let it get the better of me. (I still have > the >> X38 so will probably switch it back eventually) >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:07 AM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling >> >> >> No offense, but I would call going from an x38 to a 780i a downgrade, >> not an upgrade, unless you must have SLI - and even then I'm not sure > of >> the value/performance ratio of two 9600GTs vs a single 9800GTX. >> >> Water cooling should not be required in a non-overclocked system these >> days, even an SLI rig. You have much deeper problems than heat if you >> are experiencing crashes like that. I wouldn't suspect power either. >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:37:33 -0600 >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >>> Subject: [H] Water-cooling >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Since swapping out my Asus Maximus Formula (X38) for an Asus Striker >> II >>> Formula (780i) my system temperature has jumped a whopping 10 degrees >>> and crashes frequently. I know the Maximus is a far superior board > and >>> chipset but I wanted to play with SLI so I had to go nForce even just >>> temporarily until I give up with the whole SLI thing :-( >>> >>> So I was thinking if I really want this to work I should go for a >> liquid >>> cooling solution. I am currently looking at the Zalman Reserator XT >> and >>> will certainly use it to cool both my CPU and Northbridge. I was >>> wondering could I also plug the GFX card inline or would it reduce > the >>> effectiveness too much (2 x G9600 GT SSC)? Some WWW sites say it > would >>> be OK but I trust this list more than random WWW sites. If anyone > else >>> has gone this way yet do you have an practical advice? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Gary Hunter >>> Consulting Engineer - Core Services >>> Travelport GDS >>> T: (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 >>> M:(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 >>> E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> SITA: HDQOK1G >>> Galileo Product Development Center >>> 6901 S Havana St >>> Centennial, CO 80112 >>> >>> >>> >>> If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please >> notify the sender >>> and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message >> and any attachments >>> were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of >> malicious code. >>> This message and its attachments could have been infected during >> transmission. The >>> recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in > so >> doing, the >>> recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to >> take protective >>> and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not >> liable for any >>> loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. >>> >>> >>> >> >> _ >> Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! >> > http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Local >> e=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL >> If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please > notify the sender >> and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message > and any attachments >> were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of > malicious code. >> This message and its attachments could have been infected during > transmission. The >> recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so > doing, the >> recipient accepts full responsi
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It's just a bog standard full tower with lots of fans. It's not inverted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:46 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling What's your case? Most (all?) of the 680/780i designs I've seen made pretty extensive use of heatpipe coolers. If your case uses an inverted mount, like a number of Lian Li cases do, those heat pipes don't work worth a damn. They supposedly have a wick inside to allow for inverted operation, but on my 680i (before I replaced it with a wonderful P35), I had stability problems that were heat related until I went water (and some after, but that's 680i for you). I strongly believe it was due to heat caused by ineffective heatpipes when in my inverted-design Lian Li case. Greg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:20 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > I agree 100% and I was trying to get that across in my note. The X38 is > head and shoulders better than the 780i. It's just that I had a burning > desire to play with SLI. > > I think the crashes are certainly heat related as they will only happen > whilst I have been playing games for a while. > > I am considering swapping out the 9600GT for a 9800GT2 but the NB temp > is still very concerning, the StrikerII motherboard is the big issue > here. It's a piece of crap. > > So with all that said. I would like to get the 780 running stable just > because I'm not going to let it get the better of me. (I still have the > X38 so will probably switch it back eventually) > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:07 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > > No offense, but I would call going from an x38 to a 780i a downgrade, > not an upgrade, unless you must have SLI - and even then I'm not sure > of > the value/performance ratio of two 9600GTs vs a single 9800GTX. > > Water cooling should not be required in a non-overclocked system these > days, even an SLI rig. You have much deeper problems than heat if you > are experiencing crashes like that. I wouldn't suspect power either. > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:37:33 -0600 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: [H] Water-cooling > > > > Hi, > > > > Since swapping out my Asus Maximus Formula (X38) for an Asus Striker > II > > Formula (780i) my system temperature has jumped a whopping 10 degrees > > and crashes frequently. I know the Maximus is a far superior board > and > > chipset but I wanted to play with SLI so I had to go nForce even just > > temporarily until I give up with the whole SLI thing :-( > > > > So I was thinking if I really want this to work I should go for a > liquid > > cooling solution. I am currently looking at the Zalman Reserator XT > and > > will certainly use it to cool both my CPU and Northbridge. I was > > wondering could I also plug the GFX card inline or would it reduce > the > > effectiveness too much (2 x G9600 GT SSC)? Some WWW sites say it > would > > be OK but I trust this list more than random WWW sites. If anyone > else > > has gone this way yet do you have an practical advice? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Gary Hunter > > Consulting Engineer - Core Services > > Travelport GDS > > T: (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 > > M:(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 > > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > SITA: HDQOK1G > > Galileo Product Development Center > > 6901 S Havana St > > Centennial, CO 80112 > > > > > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please > notify the sender > > and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message > and any attachments > > were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of > malicious code. > > This message and its attachments could have been infected during > transmission. The > > recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in > so > doing, the > > recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to > take protective > > and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not > liable for any > > loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. > > > > > > > > _ > Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! > http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Loca > l > e=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL > If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please > notify the sender > and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and > any attachments > were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of > malicious code. > This message and
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Any suggestions on a utility that will keep a log file? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling I would run a utility to record GPU temps while gaming to gauge what kind of heat you are outputing before crashing. The 9600GT's run relatively cool and again I seriously doubt heat is causing the issue. What NV driver are you using? > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:19:41 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > I agree 100% and I was trying to get that across in my note. The X38 is > head and shoulders better than the 780i. It's just that I had a burning > desire to play with SLI. > > I think the crashes are certainly heat related as they will only happen > whilst I have been playing games for a while. > > I am considering swapping out the 9600GT for a 9800GT2 but the NB temp > is still very concerning, the StrikerII motherboard is the big issue > here. It's a piece of crap. > > So with all that said. I would like to get the 780 running stable just > because I'm not going to let it get the better of me. (I still have the > X38 so will probably switch it back eventually) > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:07 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling > > > No offense, but I would call going from an x38 to a 780i a downgrade, > not an upgrade, unless you must have SLI - and even then I'm not sure of > the value/performance ratio of two 9600GTs vs a single 9800GTX. > > Water cooling should not be required in a non-overclocked system these > days, even an SLI rig. You have much deeper problems than heat if you > are experiencing crashes like that. I wouldn't suspect power either. > > >> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:37:33 -0600 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: [H] Water-cooling >> >> Hi, >> >> Since swapping out my Asus Maximus Formula (X38) for an Asus Striker > II >> Formula (780i) my system temperature has jumped a whopping 10 degrees >> and crashes frequently. I know the Maximus is a far superior board and >> chipset but I wanted to play with SLI so I had to go nForce even just >> temporarily until I give up with the whole SLI thing :-( >> >> So I was thinking if I really want this to work I should go for a > liquid >> cooling solution. I am currently looking at the Zalman Reserator XT > and >> will certainly use it to cool both my CPU and Northbridge. I was >> wondering could I also plug the GFX card inline or would it reduce the >> effectiveness too much (2 x G9600 GT SSC)? Some WWW sites say it would >> be OK but I trust this list more than random WWW sites. If anyone else >> has gone this way yet do you have an practical advice? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Gary Hunter >> Consulting Engineer - Core Services >> Travelport GDS >> T: (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 >> M:(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 >> E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> SITA: HDQOK1G >> Galileo Product Development Center >> 6901 S Havana St >> Centennial, CO 80112 >> >> >> >> If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please > notify the sender >> and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message > and any attachments >> were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of > malicious code. >> This message and its attachments could have been infected during > transmission. The >> recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so > doing, the >> recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to > take protective >> and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not > liable for any >> loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. >> >> >> > > _ > Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! > http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Local > e=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL > If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender > and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments > were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. > This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The > recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the > recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective > and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any > loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. > > > _ Back to work after baby-how do you know when you're ready? http://lifestyle.m
Re: [H] Water-cooling
My case is very well ventilated using Scythe 12cm fans It's a full tower case and has the fans in this configuration on the side of the case: | | | X | | | | X | | | | X X | | | - The back of the case has two 8CM fans at the top sucking out air ___ | | | X X | | | | | | | | | | | --- The Case isn't too load because the fans are all Scythe Inside the case the cables are relatively tidy, but I would have thought the fans on the side of the case should be moving enough hot air out. The power supply may well be an issue. I may try to take some photo's at the weekend if I have time to help show you the actual configuration. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Beave Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:58 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling Look into your case and make sure your airflow is working well. This means get the power supply cables and mother board cables out of the middle of the case and try to hide them. Also, put some quality fans in the case, may make it loud once the fans turn on full, but at least it will keep the components cool. Another thing you may want to look at is the power supply. Make sure it is moving air thru it and keeping cool. Why? The hotter the power supply the less power the power supply will give to your computer components. Good example of computer wiring: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID= 1157 08980&albumID=1538791&imageID=18943098 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID= 1157 08980&albumID=1538791&imageID=18943150 My current computer is not photographed. Those above are not my current computer. On the next computer rebuild I'll take photos and post them. Regards, Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling I agree 100% and I was trying to get that across in my note. The X38 is head and shoulders better than the 780i. It's just that I had a burning desire to play with SLI. I think the crashes are certainly heat related as they will only happen whilst I have been playing games for a while. I am considering swapping out the 9600GT for a 9800GT2 but the NB temp is still very concerning, the StrikerII motherboard is the big issue here. It's a piece of crap. So with all that said. I would like to get the 780 running stable just because I'm not going to let it get the better of me. (I still have the X38 so will probably switch it back eventually) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Water-cooling No offense, but I would call going from an x38 to a 780i a downgrade, not an upgrade, unless you must have SLI - and even then I'm not sure of the value/performance ratio of two 9600GTs vs a single 9800GTX. Water cooling should not be required in a non-overclocked system these days, even an SLI rig. You have much deeper problems than heat if you are experiencing crashes like that. I wouldn't suspect power either. > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:37:33 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: [H] Water-cooling > > Hi, > > Since swapping out my Asus Maximus Formula (X38) for an Asus Striker II > Formula (780i) my system temperature has jumped a whopping 10 degrees > and crashes frequently. I know the Maximus is a far superior board and > chipset but I wanted to play with SLI so I had to go nForce even just > temporarily until I give up with the whole SLI thing :-( > > So I was thinking if I really want this to work I should go for a liquid > cooling solution. I am currently looking at the Zalman Reserator XT and > will certainly use it to cool both my CPU and Northbridge. I was > wondering could I also plug the GFX card inline or would it reduce the > effectiveness too much (2 x G9600 GT SSC)? Some WWW sites say it would > be OK but I trust this list more than random WWW sites. If anyone else > has gone this way yet do you have an practical advice? > > Thanks, > > > Gary Hunter > Consulting Engineer - Core Services > Travelport GDS > T: (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 > M:(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SITA: HDQOK1G > Galileo Product Development Center > 6901 S Havana St > Centennial, CO 80112 > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender > and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments > were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other
Re: [H] XP SP RTM?
I put it on one laptop PC, no issues so far. It was funny to see SEP pop up and say "NTKernel.exe has changed since the last time it was run, do you want to allow it to continue". hehe.. :) -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: Hayes Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:07:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? I gave up and used bittorrent instead. Same crap with Vista SP1 RTM. Real slap in the face to MSDN subscribers. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:34:24 -0500 > Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? > > Haven't tried it yet, but I downloaded it off MS TechNet. It was posted to > TechNet and MSDN yesterday in the Top Downloads section (not the normal > download center). I hate that they do that, but they use Akamai to > distribute new popular items...which seems to be incompatible with their > traditional download center. > > Greg > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:49 PM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: [H] XP SP RTM? >> >> I heard service pack 3 was released to manufactureTrue? >> Anyone tried it yet? >> >> Gary > > > _ Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A
Re: [H] XP SP RTM?
I gave up and used bittorrent instead. Same crap with Vista SP1 RTM. Real slap in the face to MSDN subscribers. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:34:24 -0500 > Subject: Re: [H] XP SP RTM? > > Haven't tried it yet, but I downloaded it off MS TechNet. It was posted to > TechNet and MSDN yesterday in the Top Downloads section (not the normal > download center). I hate that they do that, but they use Akamai to > distribute new popular items...which seems to be incompatible with their > traditional download center. > > Greg > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:49 PM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: [H] XP SP RTM? >> >> I heard service pack 3 was released to manufactureTrue? >> Anyone tried it yet? >> >> Gary > > > _ Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A
