Re: [H] Intel Eaglelake Pre-Launch Details
On May 25, 2008, at 2:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look at the documentaries of Adam Curtis; how American society is manipulated to adopt a extreme form of Capitalism by the the "captains of industry" because they ware scared shirtless they would loose their chance to control society and make more money. Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it; Those who fail to learn history CORRECTLY.. are simply doomed. It's interesting, but I find that people who attempt to marshall arguments like yours, or buy into these conspiracy beliefs that human nature is somehow fundamentally being changed (or something?!) due to a wide range of events and things in the 20th century would be those who actually know very little history. It's also just the latest brand of "the world is coming to an end" apocalypticism that exists in EVERY generation and no doubt will always exist--it's human nature. The world is always coming to an end, the next generation is always but a shadow of the last. Always interesting to me when looking back, just how many parallels there are... other than technology, nothing is new! Fashion? superficiality? Quoted from wikipedia article you linked to "Where once the political process was about engaging people's rational, conscious minds, as well as facilitating their needs as a society, the documentary shows how by employing the tactics of psychoanalysis, politicians appeal to irrational, primitive impulses that have little apparent bearing on issues outside of the narrow self-interest of a consumer population." For example, I think for someone to say that, they would just have to be monumentally ignorant (that's being charitable--the obvious conclusion is that they're hacks pushing a worldview that forwards their own goals!) of any but the most immediate history. If you took a history of Roman politics and changed a few names around, you could easily have something indistinguishable from current events... Anyway though, I think that's about enough offtopic for me too :-) Scott
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
> Hello, > > What are peoples thoughts on SP3? > SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? > Any and all feedback appreciated. > > -- > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... > > I've done 2 clean installs with no problems.
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
Only true on hp desktops; they used the same acpi driver on both intel and amd, and it screws up the install No problems here on any box. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:02:53 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts I had no problems. Everything I have read seems to indicate the problems occur with AMD CPUs. At 03:42 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote: >Hello, > >What are peoples thoughts on SP3? >SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? >Any and all feedback appreciated. > >-- >Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
After first rolling to 10 machines as a test deployment, we rolled it to the remaining ~100 at work without a single incident. Not much of a mix of hardware (probably 15 unique hardware configurations total), but definitely a good mix of installed software and age of original Windows installation. Greg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe User > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:43 PM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts > > Hello, > > What are peoples thoughts on SP3? > SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? > Any and all feedback appreciated. > > -- > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
Yeah, I have SP3 on my iMac 3.06 gigger, but I did install BootCamp 2.1 first and have had no issues dual-booting into XP so far... On May 25, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: On every normal computer that I've updated, it's been completely invisible--no problems. I don't know if this affects anybody here, but if you are using Bootcamp AND VMware/Parallels on a Mac, be sure to install the bootcamp 2.1 update BEFORE you install SP3. I installed SP3 under Parallels--parallels worked fine, and would start fine--but when I tried to reboot into bootcamp/XP, it would hit an error in the boot process and never get to windows. it's a known problem, and I had to uninstall SP3, install bootcamp 2.1, and then reinstall SP3. Then it was fine. Scott On May 25, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Joe User wrote: Hello, What are peoples thoughts on SP3? SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? Any and all feedback appreciated. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
Got it on 5 PC's so far, no issues.. Did 2 of them as clean slipstreamed installs since I was upgrading my laptops from 4200 to 5400rpm drives anyhow.. On May 25, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Joe User wrote: Hello, What are peoples thoughts on SP3? SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? Any and all feedback appreciated. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
On every normal computer that I've updated, it's been completely invisible--no problems. I don't know if this affects anybody here, but if you are using Bootcamp AND VMware/Parallels on a Mac, be sure to install the bootcamp 2.1 update BEFORE you install SP3. I installed SP3 under Parallels--parallels worked fine, and would start fine--but when I tried to reboot into bootcamp/XP, it would hit an error in the boot process and never get to windows. it's a known problem, and I had to uninstall SP3, install bootcamp 2.1, and then reinstall SP3. Then it was fine. Scott On May 25, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Joe User wrote: Hello, What are peoples thoughts on SP3? SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? Any and all feedback appreciated. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
I had no problems. Everything I have read seems to indicate the problems occur with AMD CPUs. At 03:42 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote: Hello, What are peoples thoughts on SP3? SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? Any and all feedback appreciated. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
At 07:42 PM 25/05/2008, Joe User wrote: Hello, What are peoples thoughts on SP3? SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? Any and all feedback appreciated. No problems here. I've done about 10 machines so far. I've heard no complaints for customers either. T
Re: [H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
Got it on an exiting install and everything works just fine. No issues here. It's just a rollup of all the 100-odd security patches and updates since SP2, nothing really new. There are a couple minor tweaks here and there, like the ability to edit credentials for a RDP session but nothing huge as far as I can tell. Brian On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > What are peoples thoughts on SP3? > SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? > Any and all feedback appreciated. > > -- > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... > >
[H] Windows XP SP3 - Thoughts
Hello, What are peoples thoughts on SP3? SP3 on a clean install / SP3 on an existing install? Any and all feedback appreciated. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] BBC, you got to be kidding
The century of self is an older documentary - I've seen it, so let me say something, though.. the problem with a documentary in which the documentarian is iased is that it stops being a documentary and becomes, largely, propaganda. Now, this is an interesting documentary, and it's aired on PBS here in the states (I wonder what Jeremy Clarkson would say of this, though.. maybe he's too busy testing out the new Bugati, which came not from the states ;) The thing is, though, not that some mass conspiracy brainwashed the public, including those not born - somehow this documentary seems to intone that the titans of industry warped people and repressed alternatives, etc. What it fails to neglect is that the human experience also empowers people to seek what they believe is "better" and that is different for every person, true.. but there are some things in which, titans or no, people generally agreed on. People tended to like the idea of "damn, I can get cool liquid", I'll take a refridgerator! By using Freud and others to evaluate how society works, the documentary devolves into a one-sided arguement of human reaction based on psychological forces and holds this standard true. But this in no way equates with newer, and different psychological thought since the passing of Freud. Then again, I guess we could dig up Carl Jung and Jean Piaget, both scholars in their field, wrote alternative theories and thoughts about the impact of our subconcious and how it renders what we perceive as primary needs. In his case, the documentary uses a fairly self-fulfilling method, by which interviewees are put forward that are known to agree with the heart of his theory, and basically none who provide alternative viewpoints on what compels human desires in the west or anywhere else in the world. Then again, i guess I"ll just go inside, set the thermostat at 72 and enjoy the cool after mowing the lawn (though I use a Reel mower, the Brill, so at least he can "take that!") It's a decent documentary.. as to games and computers.. it's the nature of the world. Look, the best computer game I've ever played is still Sid Mier Civilization II. I enjoy the sequels (IV is very good), but for sheer fun, I'd take CivII. That having been said, there is nothing at work from a psychology standpoint of people wanting something that they perceive of as 'more fun". I suppose we could all go back and make different choices. And society has had moments where it has repeatedly proven that a high-ticket item doesn't necessarily succeed on the "bigger is better" philosophy.. look at the Nintendo Wii. In every sense, the other competing consoles (PS3, XBOX360) have more graphic power and push to them.. but which console gets the most play in my house? The Wii. What game is the most popular? Right now it's the WiiWare "Defending Your Castle" which, I have to tell you is a riot with the WiiMote. We aren't brainwashed into these things by a grand corporate scheme, and if we were, General Motors and Ford would not be worried about having vehicles that are too big while global competitors eat up US marketspace with smaller vehicles. That's the problem with documentaries such as this; it, like Freud, assign too much power to the concept that individuals can be controlled by subconcious cues, whereas, like Jung and others believe, there is a subconcious standing within the id that helps define how we want things. Just as a counterpoint. CW > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Date: 05/25/08 14:04 > Subject: Re: [H] BBC, you got to be kidding > > On Sun, 25 May 2008 11:37:17 -0700 > FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why would anybody of even normal intelligence want to watch anything from > > the prejudiced BBC ? > > > > Sounds like jealousy or just plain ignorance to me > > fp > Hi Fred, > > You pre-judge the documentary on the grounds the producer is prejudiced? > > You can't open your mouth without shooting yourself in the foot. > > Best, > Al
Re: [H] BBC, you got to be kidding
On Sun, 25 May 2008 11:37:17 -0700 FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would anybody of even normal intelligence want to watch anything from the > prejudiced BBC ? > > Sounds like jealousy or just plain ignorance to me > fp Hi Fred, You pre-judge the documentary on the grounds the producer is prejudiced? You can't open your mouth without shooting yourself in the foot. Best, Al
[H] BBC, you got to be kidding
Why would anybody of even normal intelligence want to watch anything from the prejudiced BBC ? Sounds like jealousy or just plain ignorance to me fp At 11:29 AM 5/25/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with: >Indeed, I am "for" toys also. I invite the gentle readers to view this >four part BBC documentary: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_Of_The_Self >http://preview.tinyurl.com/6x5ct4 >http://preview.tinyurl.com/58kmwy >http://preview.tinyurl.com/5wggns >http://preview.tinyurl.com/6az7no > >Take a look at the documentaries of Adam Curtis; how American >society is manipulated to adopt a extreme form of Capitalism by the the >"captains of industry" because they ware scared shirtless they would >loose their chance to control society and make more money. > >Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it; >Those who fail to learn history CORRECTLY.. are simply doomed. > >This has, no doubt, reached the three day limit for off topic topics. > >Regards, >Al > -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Republican rule: The more I get, the better off you are.
Re: [H] Intel Eaglelake Pre-Launch Details
On Fri, 23 May 2008 19:27:04 -0400 Scott Sipe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the HWG is probably not the best place to be arguing against > toys! Indeed, I am "for" toys also. I invite the gentle readers to view this four part BBC documentary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_Of_The_Self http://preview.tinyurl.com/6x5ct4 http://preview.tinyurl.com/58kmwy http://preview.tinyurl.com/5wggns http://preview.tinyurl.com/6az7no Take a look at the documentaries of Adam Curtis; how American society is manipulated to adopt a extreme form of Capitalism by the the "captains of industry" because they ware scared shirtless they would loose their chance to control society and make more money. Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it; Those who fail to learn history CORRECTLY.. are simply doomed. This has, no doubt, reached the three day limit for off topic topics. Regards, Al Big. Big big big. The oversized sandwich. The extra extra large pizza. A house with two zip codes. Somewhere along the way the American dream went from being happy to having more than the other guy. Maybe itÂ’s time to start thinking about quality instead of quantity.
Re: [H] Prog for CD Burning
Thanx for the tips on what to use I too have given up on Nero, have not updated since Version 6.6 due to all the bloat and crapola they keep adding in.. On May 25, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: I use either CDburnerXP or StarBurn, both free and pretty good feature set. Brian On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 10:40 AM 25/05/2008, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Does anyone have any experience with anything else to burn CD, DVD, etc? Deepburner? http://www.deepburner.com/ (there is a free, for pay, and portable version.) And CDBurnerXP has a following: http://cdburnerxp.se/ Al -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] Prog for CD Burning
I use either CDburnerXP or StarBurn, both free and pretty good feature set. Brian On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 10:40 AM 25/05/2008, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > > >Does anyone have any experience with anything else to burn CD, DVD, etc? > > > > Deepburner? http://www.deepburner.com/ (there is a free, for pay, > > and portable version.) > > And CDBurnerXP has a following: > http://cdburnerxp.se/ > > Al > >
Re: [H] Prog for CD Burning
Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:40 AM 25/05/2008, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > >Does anyone have any experience with anything else to burn CD, DVD, etc? > > Deepburner? http://www.deepburner.com/ (there is a free, for pay, > and portable version.) And CDBurnerXP has a following: http://cdburnerxp.se/ Al
Re: [H] Prog for CD Burning
Mostly I just use what is built into windows along with Alcohol 120%, CloneDVD2 Use Nero very little but I do no manipulating of videos hardly anymore. :-( fp At 06:40 AM 5/25/2008, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with: >Nero has gotten to be too much of a hassle and expense to use. Does >anyone have any experience with anything else to burn CD, DVD, etc? > >Thanks...Steve -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Kids? Who said anything about kids?
Re: [H] Possible?
I have a couple of those in the pile fp At 05:35 AM 5/25/2008, mark.dodge Poked the stick with: >Sound Blaster Live comes to mind as an alternative to the AWE64, and has XP >support. Should be had for cheap-cheap. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair >Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:51 PM >To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] Possible? > >JMacCraw, >Yes, I did suspect this. OK. I will live with the inboard drivers until I >find a newer audio card. I've thought about a third Philips Acoustic Edge >card, but I think I will run into PCI IRQ battles I do not wish to have. >This XP machine uses really old hdw ATM. No money for 'new-tech' yet. >Thanks for the link. I will check it out. >I really suspect I may have asked the wrong question. I thought that the >"CD Player" came as part of the sound card files; along with all the other >dashboards for the card. Perhaps not. Anyway, what I am really looking for >is the plain old "CD Player" application. I do have the winblows media >player. Is that my only choice for listening to music CDs in XP? >Best, >Duncan > >At 00:26 05/20/2008 -0700, you wrote: >>Much luck, they stopped making those before WinXP and >>also stopped posting for >>download (for free) software from the bundled CD's >>even before that. >> >>http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/ >> >>Driver is in XP or it's not, don't expect more support >>than that. >> >> >>DHSinclair wrote: >> > Does anyone know of drivers (WinXP) for an old >>Creative (ISA) AWE64-Value? >> > >> > I have an old Creative (ISA) AWE64-Value running in >>my XP test machine >> > for sound (and grins!) It really does work! >> > It is a CT4520 AWE64 Sound Blaster (ISA). >> > The m/b is an Asus CUBX. >> > It does work, sort of :) I do get >>sound from it. From >> > its' rear panel. >> > What I do no HAVE is WinXP drivers for the 'internal >>features' (if any?) >> > of this >> > very old card. OK, my bad! >> > >> > I am trying to integrate this 'old' card's LINE >>output with a current >> > Phillips >> > 'acoustic edge' card LINE output into my current >>Klipsch V.200 speaker >> > system. >> > Best, >> > Duncan >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 5/24/2008 >8:56 AM -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Kids? Who said anything about kids?
Re: [H] Prog for CD Burning
At 10:40 AM 25/05/2008, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Nero has gotten to be too much of a hassle and expense to use. Does anyone have any experience with anything else to burn CD, DVD, etc? Deepburner? http://www.deepburner.com/ (there is a free, for pay, and portable version.) T
[H] Prog for CD Burning
Nero has gotten to be too much of a hassle and expense to use. Does anyone have any experience with anything else to burn CD, DVD, etc? Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] Possible?
Sound Blaster Live comes to mind as an alternative to the AWE64, and has XP support. Should be had for cheap-cheap. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:51 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Possible? JMacCraw, Yes, I did suspect this. OK. I will live with the inboard drivers until I find a newer audio card. I've thought about a third Philips Acoustic Edge card, but I think I will run into PCI IRQ battles I do not wish to have. This XP machine uses really old hdw ATM. No money for 'new-tech' yet. Thanks for the link. I will check it out. I really suspect I may have asked the wrong question. I thought that the "CD Player" came as part of the sound card files; along with all the other dashboards for the card. Perhaps not. Anyway, what I am really looking for is the plain old "CD Player" application. I do have the winblows media player. Is that my only choice for listening to music CDs in XP? Best, Duncan At 00:26 05/20/2008 -0700, you wrote: >Much luck, they stopped making those before WinXP and >also stopped posting for >download (for free) software from the bundled CD's >even before that. > >http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/ > >Driver is in XP or it's not, don't expect more support >than that. > > >DHSinclair wrote: > > Does anyone know of drivers (WinXP) for an old >Creative (ISA) AWE64-Value? > > > > I have an old Creative (ISA) AWE64-Value running in >my XP test machine > > for sound (and grins!) It really does work! > > It is a CT4520 AWE64 Sound Blaster (ISA). > > The m/b is an Asus CUBX. > > It does work, sort of :) I do get >sound from it. From > > its' rear panel. > > What I do no HAVE is WinXP drivers for the 'internal >features' (if any?) > > of this > > very old card. OK, my bad! > > > > I am trying to integrate this 'old' card's LINE >output with a current > > Phillips > > 'acoustic edge' card LINE output into my current >Klipsch V.200 speaker > > system. > > Best, > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 5/24/2008 8:56 AM
