Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
Yeah, I'll be sure to tweak it eventually but I need to get more edumacated on the new BIOS settings and what they mean. My HT speed is running at 1000 which is half what it should be and my NB speed is 1600 which may or may not be stock. DHSinclair wrote: Stan, So happy that you are happy with your new Phenom 2 X3 720 BE. Will be interested about stuff that happens in the future; you will tweak, of course! Can not share. I have moved to C2D. Am happy with how they (3) work so far. Thanks, Duncan At 16:58 02/18/2009 -0600, you wrote: Well, I guess Jim didn't approve of my attachment but that's ok. CPU-z v 1.50 says that its a Phenom 2 X3 720 BE but then you look further down and the specification string shows Phenom 2 X4 20 Black Edition. Notice that it has a "20" instead of "720" and that it says "X4". The screen shot I wanted to show has Window's Task Monitor showing 4 cores running and Core Temp also shows 4 cores. Either I'm dopped up or this particular CPU got past QC without one of the cores being neutered. Anybody want to see that Jpeg just PM me and I'll send it as I really want to get some feedback on what's happening. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined. __ NOD32 3866 (20090218) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
Stan, So happy that you are happy with your new Phenom 2 X3 720 BE. Will be interested about stuff that happens in the future; you will tweak, of course! Can not share. I have moved to C2D. Am happy with how they (3) work so far. Thanks, Duncan At 16:58 02/18/2009 -0600, you wrote: Well, I guess Jim didn't approve of my attachment but that's ok. CPU-z v 1.50 says that its a Phenom 2 X3 720 BE but then you look further down and the specification string shows Phenom 2 X4 20 Black Edition. Notice that it has a "20" instead of "720" and that it says "X4". The screen shot I wanted to show has Window's Task Monitor showing 4 cores running and Core Temp also shows 4 cores. Either I'm dopped up or this particular CPU got past QC without one of the cores being neutered. Anybody want to see that Jpeg just PM me and I'll send it as I really want to get some feedback on what's happening. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined. __ NOD32 3866 (20090218) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
[H] New AMD CPU's at the Egg
The X4 810's finally showed up in OEM and Retail. Plus the X4 920's now have an OEM version with price adjustments all down the line. Glad I got mine before it went up $10.
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
Well, I guess Jim didn't approve of my attachment but that's ok. CPU-z v 1.50 says that its a Phenom 2 X3 720 BE but then you look further down and the specification string shows Phenom 2 X4 20 Black Edition. Notice that it has a "20" instead of "720" and that it says "X4". The screen shot I wanted to show has Window's Task Monitor showing 4 cores running and Core Temp also shows 4 cores. Either I'm dopped up or this particular CPU got past QC without one of the cores being neutered. Anybody want to see that Jpeg just PM me and I'll send it as I really want to get some feedback on what's happening. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined.
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:39:29 -0600 Stan Zaske wrote: > hope I'm not violating list > policy by sending an attachment The server stripped the attachment. regards, Al
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined.
Re: [H] XP Home ?
1. LAN not WAN 2. It gets an IP 3. can talk to one system but not others Can you ping all the other systems? What about internet? Logon in what sense, to a share? FORC5 wrote: Just picked up a netbook for travel. Being XP Home it will not stay connected to my LAN on reboot. Well most anyway. Have 3 systems on the LAN, one it re connects to, the others it does not and I have no idea. Barring putting in Pro there has to be a way to tell Home to reconnect at log on since it does connect to one. I have looked in the past for the answer to this with no luck. Pro has the little box telling it to log back on. Has to be a way to force home to do the same thing. Thanks fp
Re: [H] XP Home ?
Sorry to stray from the conversation, but what did you pick up? I recently bought a asus 1000H and its fantastic except for that damn right shift key placement. Its so annoying, I may buy either the 1000HE or a competitor brand. Other than that the netbook is fantastic!!! On Feb 18, 2009 11:03 PM, "FORC5" wrote: Just picked up a netbook for travel. Being XP Home it will not stay connected to my LAN on reboot. Well most anyway. Have 3 systems on the LAN, one it re connects to, the others it does not and I have no idea. Barring putting in Pro there has to be a way to tell Home to reconnect at log on since it does connect to one. I have looked in the past for the answer to this with no luck. Pro has the little box telling it to log back on. Has to be a way to force home to do the same thing. Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- A fool and his money are soon elected.
[H] XP Home ?
Just picked up a netbook for travel. Being XP Home it will not stay connected to my LAN on reboot. Well most anyway. Have 3 systems on the LAN, one it re connects to, the others it does not and I have no idea. Barring putting in Pro there has to be a way to tell Home to reconnect at log on since it does connect to one. I have looked in the past for the answer to this with no luck. Pro has the little box telling it to log back on. Has to be a way to force home to do the same thing. Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- A fool and his money are soon elected.
[H] Looking for Booting utility
I'm looking for a utility that will allow me to install it onto a USB drive and select a floppy, cd or dvd image to boot from. I'd like for it to be able install directly to the USB, then you would use a utility like linux dd or windows rawwrite to create images of floppy disks, or just take an ISO file and boot from that. Best setup for it would be to be able to just drop the images into a directory on the USB drive, boot from the USB drive and get a selection list where you select which image you want to boot. Anyone know anything that'll do that? Thanks! Christopher Fisk -- Fry: I want to see the edge of the universe. Amy: Ooh, that sounds cool. Zoidberg: It's funny. You live in the universe but you never do these things 'til someone comes to visit. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
