Re: [H] New TV.
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921.html?tag=mncol;rnav http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute best bang for the buck: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s_c=site_search It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too. Bobby Heid wrote: What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] New TV.
Thanks for the links. Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:11 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921 .html?tag=mncol;rnav http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute best bang for the buck: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s _c=site_search It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too. Bobby Heid wrote: What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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At the rate home theater shops near me are folding up you can grab some deals though. A leasing company we work with let their people have 52 lcds for $800 last week. Damn, I wished I had grabbed a stack. I'd avoid plasma like the plague and look for deals. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Veech ve...@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:25:41 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Yepand it's just like the old monitors in that case.the TV people would have advised him regarding that. You can bet it took a long time to do that and leaving the image on the TV for many hours at a time. It's like if you leave channels like Sc-Fi or USA that have their logos on most of the time and run the TV 24 hours a day, it will burn in over a period of timesame with running X-Box, or other games, with the same game for days at a time. Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Veech, What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference to them? Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Mine's on that CNet 'best of' list. :) Samsung PN50A550 50-inch plasma TV, and I recommend it highly. Love it, and have never seen any burn-in on mine, and I use it for Xbox and TV, including sports with the score thingies on the screen for a long time. The new generations seem much better at avoiding that stuff. Mine has a pixel shift mode that helps, as well an all white screen you can use if you see any burn-in. http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 On Mar 13, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921.html?tag=mncol;rnav http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] New TV.
Avia is the one I used. The eighth post on this page has a great little self-help how-to for plasma calibration: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7913037 - Original Message - From: Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:34 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Veech, What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference to them? Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Veech, ThanksI'll spend some time on it. Right now, to be honest, it's way over my head. Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Avia is the one I used. The eighth post on this page has a great little self-help how-to for plasma calibration: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7913037 - Original Message - From: Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:34 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Veech, What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference to them? Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech