Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921.html?tag=mncol;rnav

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0

Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute 
best bang for the buck:


http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s_c=site_search 



It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too.

Bobby Heid wrote:

What do you all think about this TV?

 


Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re 


f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1

 


http://tinyurl.com/cppa28

 


Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?

 


Thanks,

Bobby


  




Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Bobby Heid
Thanks for the links.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:11 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.

http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921
.html?tag=mncol;rnav

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0

Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
 Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute 
 best bang for the buck:


http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s
_c=site_search 


 It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too.

 Bobby Heid wrote:
 What do you all think about this TV?

  

 Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV


http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re


 f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1

  

 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28

  

 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?

  

 Thanks,

 Bobby


   





Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Winterlight

At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote:

What about possible burn-in?  I really don;t know too much about the
plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better.


I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really 
pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox.





-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.

I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it.
Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD.

Jeff


Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between
Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's
hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before
buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well.

I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ.

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
 Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] New TV.

 What do you all think about this TV?



 Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV

 http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-
 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re
 f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1



 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28



 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?



 Thanks,

 Bobby




Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Veech
yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 
minutes.  Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost.  I have a 
Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks.  Good 
part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over 
our couch watching the thing.  Bad is the glare or reflection especially 
during the day.  Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off 
heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen 
up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time.  Get one 
of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' 
from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out 
the image.


Veech




- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.



At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote:

What about possible burn-in?  I really don;t know too much about the
plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better.


I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed 
that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox.





-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.

I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it.
Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD.

Jeff


Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between
Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's
hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before
buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well.

I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ.

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
 Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] New TV.

 What do you all think about this TV?



 Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV

 http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-
 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re
 f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1



 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28



 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?



 Thanks,

 Bobby






Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread tmservo
At the rate home theater shops near me are folding up you can grab some deals 
though.  A leasing company we work with let their people have 52 lcds for $800 
last week.  Damn, I wished I had grabbed a stack.  I'd avoid plasma like the 
plague and look for deals.  
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Veech ve...@earthlink.net

Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:25:41 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 
minutes.  Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost.  I have a 
Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks.  Good 
part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over 
our couch watching the thing.  Bad is the glare or reflection especially 
during the day.  Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off 
heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen 
up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time.  Get one 
of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' 
from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out 
the image.

Veech




- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


 At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote:
What about possible burn-in?  I really don;t know too much about the
plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better.

 I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed 
 that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox.



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.

I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it.
Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD.

Jeff


Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between
Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's
hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before
buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well.

I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ.

Greg

  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: [H] New TV.
 
  What do you all think about this TV?
 
 
 
  Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV
 
  http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-
  1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re
  f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1
 
 
 
  http://tinyurl.com/cppa28
 
 
 
  Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bobby
 


Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Jeff Lane
Yepand it's just like the old monitors in that case.the TV people 
would have advised him regarding that. You can bet it took a long time to do 
that and leaving the image on the TV for many hours at a time. It's like if 
you leave channels like Sc-Fi or USA that have their logos on most of the 
time and run the TV 24 hours a day, it will burn in over a period of 
timesame with running X-Box, or other games, with the same game for days 
at a time.

Jeff


Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote:
What about possible burn-in?  I really don;t know too much about the
plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better.

I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really
pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox.



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.

I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it.
Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD.

Jeff


Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between
Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's
hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before
buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well.

I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ.

Greg

  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: [H] New TV.
 
  What do you all think about this TV?
 
 
 
  Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV
 
  http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-
  1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re
  f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1
 
 
 
  http://tinyurl.com/cppa28
 
 
 
  Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bobby




Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Jeff Lane
Veech,

What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference 
to them?

Jeff


Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45
minutes.  Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost.  I have a
Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks.  Good
part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over
our couch watching the thing.  Bad is the glare or reflection especially
during the day.  Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off
heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen
up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time.  Get one
of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot'
from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out
the image.

Veech




- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


 At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote:
What about possible burn-in?  I really don;t know too much about the
plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better.

 I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed
 that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox.



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.

I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it.
Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD.

Jeff


Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between
Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's
hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before
buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well.

I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ.

Greg

  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: [H] New TV.
 
  What do you all think about this TV?
 
 
 
  Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV
 
  http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-
  1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re
  f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1
 
 
 
  http://tinyurl.com/cppa28
 
 
 
  Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bobby





Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread John R Steinbruner

Mine's on that CNet 'best of' list. :)

Samsung PN50A550 50-inch plasma TV, and I recommend it highly.

Love it, and have never seen any burn-in on mine, and I use it for  
Xbox and TV, including sports with the score thingies on the screen  
for a long time.  The new generations seem much better at avoiding  
that stuff.  Mine has a pixel shift mode that helps, as well an all  
white screen you can use if you see any burn-in.



http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0




On Mar 13, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:


http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921.html?tag=mncol;rnav

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0



--
JRS
stei...@pacbell.net

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.



Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Veech
Avia is the one I used.  The eighth post on this page has a great little 
self-help how-to for plasma calibration:


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7913037


- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:34
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.



Veech,

What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference
to them?

Jeff


Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45
minutes.  Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost.  I have a
Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks.  Good
part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over
our couch watching the thing.  Bad is the glare or reflection especially
during the day.  Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws 
off
heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the 
screen
up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time.  Get 
one
of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set 
hot'
from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash 
out

the image.

Veech




- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.



At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote:

What about possible burn-in?  I really don;t know too much about the
plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better.


I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really 
pissed

that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox.




-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.

I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it.
Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD.

Jeff


Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between
Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's
hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before
buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well.

I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ.

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
 Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] New TV.

 What do you all think about this TV?



 Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV

 http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-
 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re
 f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1



 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28



 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800?



 Thanks,

 Bobby









Re: [H] New TV.

2009-03-13 Thread Jeff Lane
Veech,

ThanksI'll spend some time on it. Right now, to be honest, it's way over 
my head.

Jeff


Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


Avia is the one I used.  The eighth post on this page has a great little
self-help how-to for plasma calibration:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7913037


- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:34
Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


 Veech,

 What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference
 to them?

 Jeff


 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [H] New TV.


 yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45
 minutes.  Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost.  I have a
 Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks.  Good
 part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over
 our couch watching the thing.  Bad is the glare or reflection especially
 during the day.  Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws
 off
 heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the
 screen
 up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time.  Get
 one
 of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set
 hot'
 from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash
 out
 the image.

 Veech