[H] LINUX?
What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam
Re: [H] LINUX?
Mostly Ubuntu and Mint.. I also use Unix-based OS X every day as well. :) -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: Sam Franc fr...@oregonfast.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:30:26 AM Subject: [H] LINUX? What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam
Re: [H] LINUX?
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Sam Franc wrote: What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam Been on Gentoo for years. Portage is great. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
James, Thanks for your personal habitual ritual. I, too, follow your roadmap also. It is interesting that with the latest news about the i5 and i7 direction change, that there are so many i7-level m/b's and cpus still available. As I suspect you do choose to move to i7, I would suggest much homework to get the best service into the future with any new toys at this bleeding edge level. I just finished moving from AMD to Intel c2d E8400/P45/DDR3. The previous AMD machines were going on 10 years old. ATM, my happiness factor is quite high. Well, unless the LGA775 Intel form factor goes away any time soon. I can still look forward to potentially a Quad-core cpu, though I have no idea why I would ever require that much umph.. :) Best, Duncan James Maki wrote: If we are talking price concerns and future upgrades, I can see your point on waiting and concentrating on the upcoming i5 cpu. The fallacy in this philosophy FOR ME is I rarely upgrade within a socket type. The one time I did upgrade, I now feel I spent too much to upgrade a socket 939 (at its end of life) single core AMD64 3700 to an Opteron 185. It gave the system new life, but cost $235 for an obsolete chip. I usually build a system and use it for several years and then build a new system from scratch (at least, mb, cpu, and ram) as much from want as necessity as the technogies change. So I may spend a little more now for an X58 mb, i7 920, and DDR3, but the investment will cover me for the next couple of years till the new next best thing. Only potential pitfall is if the cpu fails (and I have not ever had a cpu fail) and having to spend an arm and leg to replace. In the meantime, I have a (for the time being) state of the art system. The happiness factor has to be worth SOMETHING! Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com Basically, i7 is going to be re-branded as the high end and as such boards and cpu prices will remain very high. Going the i5 route will give a considerably cheaper future upgrade path. -Original Message- From: James Maki -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com With the recent announcement on i7 and i5, I wouldn't even consider an i7 anymore. Not good news either for those of us who jumped on the i7 bandwagon early :( I'm a bit confused by this comment. My understanding is that the i5 is inferior to the i7 and aimed at budget computing. Am I missing something? Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
775 is going away soon. Just thought I'd let you know. :) Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: DHSinclair dx7...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:23:34 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Core i7 new computer James, Thanks for your personal habitual ritual. I, too, follow your roadmap also. It is interesting that with the latest news about the i5 and i7 direction change, that there are so many i7-level m/b's and cpus still available. As I suspect you do choose to move to i7, I would suggest much homework to get the best service into the future with any new toys at this bleeding edge level. I just finished moving from AMD to Intel c2d E8400/P45/DDR3. The previous AMD machines were going on 10 years old. ATM, my happiness factor is quite high. Well, unless the LGA775 Intel form factor goes away any time soon. I can still look forward to potentially a Quad-core cpu, though I have no idea why I would ever require that much umph.. :) Best, Duncan James Maki wrote: If we are talking price concerns and future upgrades, I can see your point on waiting and concentrating on the upcoming i5 cpu. The fallacy in this philosophy FOR ME is I rarely upgrade within a socket type. The one time I did upgrade, I now feel I spent too much to upgrade a socket 939 (at its end of life) single core AMD64 3700 to an Opteron 185. It gave the system new life, but cost $235 for an obsolete chip. I usually build a system and use it for several years and then build a new system from scratch (at least, mb, cpu, and ram) as much from want as necessity as the technogies change. So I may spend a little more now for an X58 mb, i7 920, and DDR3, but the investment will cover me for the next couple of years till the new next best thing. Only potential pitfall is if the cpu fails (and I have not ever had a cpu fail) and having to spend an arm and leg to replace. In the meantime, I have a (for the time being) state of the art system. The happiness factor has to be worth SOMETHING! Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com Basically, i7 is going to be re-branded as the high end and as such boards and cpu prices will remain very high. Going the i5 route will give a considerably cheaper future upgrade path. -Original Message- From: James Maki -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com With the recent announcement on i7 and i5, I wouldn't even consider an i7 anymore. Not good news either for those of us who jumped on the i7 bandwagon early :( I'm a bit confused by this comment. My understanding is that the i5 is inferior to the i7 and aimed at budget computing. Am I missing something? Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
Oops! What is the replacement? Or, I suppose I have to now shop for bigger horsepower now? Darn-it! Duncan tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: 775 is going away soon. Just thought I'd let you know. :) Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: DHSinclair dx7...@bellsouth.net Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:23:34 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Core i7 new computer James, Thanks for your personal habitual ritual. I, too, follow your roadmap also. It is interesting that with the latest news about the i5 and i7 direction change, that there are so many i7-level m/b's and cpus still available. As I suspect you do choose to move to i7, I would suggest much homework to get the best service into the future with any new toys at this bleeding edge level. I just finished moving from AMD to Intel c2d E8400/P45/DDR3. The previous AMD machines were going on 10 years old. ATM, my happiness factor is quite high. Well, unless the LGA775 Intel form factor goes away any time soon. I can still look forward to potentially a Quad-core cpu, though I have no idea why I would ever require that much umph.. :) Best, Duncan James Maki wrote: If we are talking price concerns and future upgrades, I can see your point on waiting and concentrating on the upcoming i5 cpu. The fallacy in this philosophy FOR ME is I rarely upgrade within a socket type. The one time I did upgrade, I now feel I spent too much to upgrade a socket 939 (at its end of life) single core AMD64 3700 to an Opteron 185. It gave the system new life, but cost $235 for an obsolete chip. I usually build a system and use it for several years and then build a new system from scratch (at least, mb, cpu, and ram) as much from want as necessity as the technogies change. So I may spend a little more now for an X58 mb, i7 920, and DDR3, but the investment will cover me for the next couple of years till the new next best thing. Only potential pitfall is if the cpu fails (and I have not ever had a cpu fail) and having to spend an arm and leg to replace. In the meantime, I have a (for the time being) state of the art system. The happiness factor has to be worth SOMETHING! Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com Basically, i7 is going to be re-branded as the high end and as such boards and cpu prices will remain very high. Going the i5 route will give a considerably cheaper future upgrade path. -Original Message- From: James Maki -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com With the recent announcement on i7 and i5, I wouldn't even consider an i7 anymore. Not good news either for those of us who jumped on the i7 bandwagon early :( I'm a bit confused by this comment. My understanding is that the i5 is inferior to the i7 and aimed at budget computing. Am I missing something? Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net
Re: [H] LINUX?
At 11:30 6/3/2009, Sam Franc, wrote: What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam What do you want to do with it? Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] mATX Motherboard recommendation
At 13:33 6/2/2009, Sam Franc, wrote: This seem to be the GIGABYTE GA-M61PME-S2P nvidia geforce 6100 chipset micro ATX form factor Is that the one you like? Yeppers. It still has external ports for PS/2 mouse. Need that for my KVM switches. I have the GA-M61P-S3 and it seems to be fine. I wonder what the main difference is? Sam W. D. wrote: At 11:20 6/2/2009, Sam Franc wrote: WD Your URL for mwave fails to load. Sam Https. Here it is via http: http://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 W. D. wrote: At 07:49 6/2/2009, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Can anyone provide advice for what would be a good and decent mATX motherboard to perhaps use a Q6600 with? I am looking for something with VGA built in, and don't care about 3D acceleration at all. I would prefer if the components would be supported out of the box by Linux and/or Windows 7. GbE would also be a requirement. Other than that price is also a consideration. I don't want something too expensive. This is what I buy these days, supporting AMD: https://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00 Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00 Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
So you are saying Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quads are going away soon? Aren't they all still 775's? So we will only have Core i5 or i7 left for Intel desktop choices?? -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. 775 is going away soon. Just thought I'd let you know. :) Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
This is supposed to be the last year of full production, i5 is supposed to end up supplanting 775. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JRS stei...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:48:00 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Core i7 new computer So you are saying Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quads are going away soon? Aren't they all still 775's? So we will only have Core i5 or i7 left for Intel desktop choices?? -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. 775 is going away soon. Just thought I'd let you know. :) Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] LINUX?
I want to be prepared to get rid of M$. I think it is at the end of it's rope. They just keep making it more complicated. instead of making it easier for the enduser. And M$ is just interested in the bottom line. MONEY! I have not liked anything since W2000. Sam W. D. wrote: At 11:30 6/3/2009, Sam Franc, wrote: What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam What do you want to do with it? Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.52/2152 - Release Date: 06/03/09 05:53:00
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
So, if I choose to stay with LGA775, I should maybe stockpile mb's and cpus now? Can do, but did not really wish to. Was really just thinking of getting 2 more kit-sets of what I have now to sweep away the last of my really old BX, scsi, AMD, etc. machines. I suppose up2date is a really short-time idea any longer. Best, Duncan tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: This is supposed to be the last year of full production, i5 is supposed to end up supplanting 775. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JRS stei...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:48:00 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Core i7 new computer So you are saying Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quads are going away soon? Aren't they all still 775's? So we will only have Core i5 or i7 left for Intel desktop choices?? -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. 775 is going away soon. Just thought I'd let you know. :) Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
Its all going to LGA 1156 and LGA 1366. tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: This is supposed to be the last year of full production, i5 is supposed to end up supplanting 775. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JRS stei...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:48:00 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Core i7 new computer So you are saying Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quads are going away soon? Aren't they all still 775's? So we will only have Core i5 or i7 left for Intel desktop choices?? -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. 775 is going away soon. Just thought I'd let you know. :) Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] LINUX?
At 12:57 6/3/2009, Sam Franc wrote: I want to be prepared to get rid of M$. I think it is at the end of it's rope. They just keep making it more complicated. instead of making it easier for the enduser. And M$ is just interested in the bottom line. MONEY! I have not liked anything since W2000. Sam You be preachin' to da choir! If you are interested in getting a desktop running quickly, then Ubuntu: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%9B%DB%BBI%F0%85%A2%D1%5D%96%AC%FA%BF%F81%06%001O%E0 http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ I'm a fan of FreeBSD for servers: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ W. D. wrote: At 11:30 6/3/2009, Sam Franc, wrote: What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam What do you want to do with it? Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.52/2152 - Release Date: 06/03/09 05:53:00 Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] LINUX?
Ubuntu will also send a physical disk free of charge. Now if I could just get motivated and try it on one of my lesser used boxes... W. D. wrote: At 12:57 6/3/2009, Sam Franc wrote: I want to be prepared to get rid of M$. I think it is at the end of it's rope. They just keep making it more complicated. instead of making it easier for the enduser. And M$ is just interested in the bottom line. MONEY! I have not liked anything since W2000. Sam You be preachin' to da choir! If you are interested in getting a desktop running quickly, then Ubuntu: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%9B%DB%BBI%F0%85%A2%D1%5D%96%AC%FA%BF%F81%06%001O%E0 http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ I'm a fan of FreeBSD for servers: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ W. D. wrote: At 11:30 6/3/2009, Sam Franc, wrote: What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam What do you want to do with it? Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.52/2152 - Release Date: 06/03/09 05:53:00 Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] LINUX?
Hello JRS, Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 12:08:42 PM, you wrote: I also use Unix-based OS X every day as well. :) Oh yeah OS X here also 8) -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] LINUX?
Hello Sam, Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 12:57:27 PM, you wrote: I want to be prepared to get rid of M$. I think it is at the end of it's rope. They just keep making it more complicated. instead of making it easier for the enduser. And M$ is just interested in the bottom line. MONEY! I have not liked anything since W2000. Sam Go Ubuntu then. Nice community. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] LINUX?
Let's call it *nix: RHEL, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, OSX On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 04:08:07PM -0500, Joe User wrote: Hello JRS, Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 12:08:42 PM, you wrote: I also use Unix-based OS X every day as well. :) Oh yeah OS X here also 8) -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] LINUX?
Gentoo and Mandriva What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam
Re: [H] LINUX?
Mandriva. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jason Carson ja...@jasoncarson.ca Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 23:54:03 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] LINUX? Gentoo and Mandriva What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam
