Re: [H] Bioshock
Red stars like noise? That's the kind of thing you see when the video ram is OC'd or overheating AFAIK. I'd be running 3dmark or similar to see if it can be reproduced outside of that game by taxing the hardware to the max. If no issue the I guess you're looking at a compatibility issue thus needing a dual-boot to XP or linux + CodeWeaver's gamer distro. On 1/23/2010 10:17 AM, Winterlight wrote: I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650 with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560 X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on the graphics. I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot) into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire enabled. This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings. I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is there something I can do to continue? thanks W
Re: [H] Off - topic
LOL, if anyone is dumb enough to have HTML turned on or be clicking on attachments these days it might still work. Personally I'd feel real bad for that kind of user though! On 1/23/2010 1:36 PM, Robert Turnbull wrote: Some years ago, a member of the list wrote about an attachment that he mailed to his buddy at work. When it was opened, the sound volume went way up and a loud voice said Look everybody, I'm watching porno, and simultaneously porn pictures briefly flashed on the screen. Instant panic!!! I have a couple of sons in their 40's that I'd like to try this on. Does anyone know the source of this attachment. Be well. Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada
[H] Fwd: Re: Bioshock
Red stars like noise? That's the kind of thing you see when the video ram is OC'd or overheating AFAIK. I guess... I see lots of bright red stars. I am not overclocking the video card... no need for this four year old game with this pair of one year old 4970s. I don't think it is overheating or the board would shut it down, but I may have hit then end of my power curve. I am using a PCPC 750 quiet, but for a overclocked Q9650, 8GB of DDR800, two 4970s and four HDs one SSD, two optical and a floppy so maybe I am pushing it. However I happen to have a PCPC 910 quiet on back order that should show up soon and I will see if that helps. Other people are having problems trying to play the game in 64 bit so you are probably right about compatibility. I should hook up my dual old Xeon 3.06 with a X1950 running XPSP3 to finish the game. I'd be running 3dmark or similar to see if it can be reproduced outside of that game by taxing the hardware to the max. If no issue the I guess you're looking at a compatibility issue thus needing a dual-boot to XP or linux + CodeWeaver's gamer distro. On 1/23/2010 10:17 AM, Winterlight wrote: I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650 with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560 X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on the graphics. I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot) into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire enabled. This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings. I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is there something I can do to continue? thanks W
Re: [H] Cores with Different Temps at Idle?
Rick, Interesting share. I missed the X-Ray pix. And, now, I find in 2010 that I did NOT spread my AS5 properly on my C2D's. DAMN! It is tough when manuals get revised and I miss the revision! I spread my AS5 on the small, round silvery puck of the Intel HSF. Did the old credit-card trick. That puck was SO much smaller than the surface of the C2D, I sensed an immediate OVERHEAT! Very odd I thought at the time (10/08). C2D's were brand new to me at that time. :) I still subscribe to AS5. I am happy to now have a NEW installation manual for AS5. I will continue to use and suggest AS5. My 3 E8400's heat nicely at ~32C idle. I do so love the C2D! Best, Duncan On 01/23/2010 10:40, Rick Glazier wrote: I did a quick scan of that thread at your link. It reminded me about the different patterns Arctic Silver recommends for the CPU top surface heatsink covers. They have showed X-Ray pictures of the covered dies, and EXACTLY where to apply the paste. They approach it like a Science, not an art... I assume you saw that, but if not it might help IF ONLY a little. Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin Well, google is my friend. It turns out this temp diff between cores is quite common for Intel Core 2 chips. Many have reported about it for quad cores. Here is just one thread: http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2t=60434
Re: [H] Off - topic
I'm sure I've seen this as a powerpoint at one time or another. I tried to google for it, but couldn't find anything useful. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: 24 January 2010 15:03 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Off - topic LOL, if anyone is dumb enough to have HTML turned on or be clicking on attachments these days it might still work. Personally I'd feel real bad for that kind of user though! On 1/23/2010 1:36 PM, Robert Turnbull wrote: Some years ago, a member of the list wrote about an attachment that he mailed to his buddy at work. When it was opened, the sound volume went way up and a loud voice said Look everybody, I'm watching porno, and simultaneously porn pictures briefly flashed on the screen. Instant panic!!! I have a couple of sons in their 40's that I'd like to try this on. Does anyone know the source of this attachment. Be well. Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada
[H] Bad Partition
I have a hard drive SATA1 300GB Maxtor, worked fine. I put it in one of my machines and booted into windows, moved off all the data and then did a format NTFS. Then I decided to use it in another machine as the boot drive. I didn't have any partitioning software on this XP machine so I booted off my old Partition Magic 8 floppies. For some reason PM8 DOS reported a partition error on the Maxtor when it started up,.. something about 1024 end point, and asked to fix it... I foolishly said OK and it reported all fixed. But when it finished loading I discovered it had a bad partition no doubt caused by PM8s fixing it. PM8 couldn't delete the partition ... it just showed the bad partition. I thought OK I will use DiskWipe in DOS to wipe it clean. But disk wipe wouldn't load with that DISK hooked up. Nor would a boot floppy, or windows.Only the PM8 DOS floppies will boot and load. I took the drive out, put it on a motherboard with nothing but a cpu, ram, video and a floppy and tried to boot... no can do. There is no data on the drive and it isn't worth much but if I could wipe the drive I could restore it. I can't fix it if I can't boot while it is installed. Have I missed something ... is there a way to fix this? Or is it time to take it apart for the magnets. thanks
[H] Is there any point? [phone]
I think internal phone lines have 4 wires (2 lines). Normally, I see these as Red, Green, Yellow, and Black. No need to further confuse with various White w/stripe wires. I leave this coding to the experts. ATM! Is there any good reason to have a central phone block/box inside the house so I can troubleshoot separate lines inside the house? Like between ME and the TSID? Thanks. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Bad Partition
I'd try DBAN (both the stable 1.x and 2.x beta branches). Boots from CD, and uses a lightweight linux kernel. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:04 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Bad Partition I have a hard drive SATA1 300GB Maxtor, worked fine. I put it in one of my machines and booted into windows, moved off all the data and then did a format NTFS. Then I decided to use it in another machine as the boot drive. I didn't have any partitioning software on this XP machine so I booted off my old Partition Magic 8 floppies. For some reason PM8 DOS reported a partition error on the Maxtor when it started up,.. something about 1024 end point, and asked to fix it... I foolishly said OK and it reported all fixed. But when it finished loading I discovered it had a bad partition no doubt caused by PM8s fixing it. PM8 couldn't delete the partition ... it just showed the bad partition. I thought OK I will use DiskWipe in DOS to wipe it clean. But disk wipe wouldn't load with that DISK hooked up. Nor would a boot floppy, or windows.Only the PM8 DOS floppies will boot and load. I took the drive out, put it on a motherboard with nothing but a cpu, ram, video and a floppy and tried to boot... no can do. There is no data on the drive and it isn't worth much but if I could wipe the drive I could restore it. I can't fix it if I can't boot while it is installed. Have I missed something ... is there a way to fix this? Or is it time to take it apart for the magnets. thanks
Re: [H] Bad Partition
thanks, but the solution turned out to be surprisingly easy... even if old school. I realized that PM8 DOS boot disks were using Caldera to boot and load successfully, although PM8 could not delete the bad partition that it created and that was causing the problem. MS DOS 98 would not boot, nor would any of my Linux disks like DISKWIPE, or Active partition recovery. Seagate, Maxtor Sea Tools would boot with Dr. Dos but couldn't see any drive. Fortunately, I still have a image file for IBM Dr.DOS 6.X. I created a floppy, booted off that and used FDISK to delete the foreign partition, and that was that. Now I am using DISKWIPE to remove all traces of everything off the drive. All this, just so I can finish playing BIOSHOCK on a 32 bit XP machine! At 06:28 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote: I'd try DBAN (both the stable 1.x and 2.x beta branches). Boots from CD, and uses a lightweight linux kernel. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:04 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Bad Partition I have a hard drive SATA1 300GB Maxtor, worked fine. I put it in one of my machines and booted into windows, moved off all the data and then did a format NTFS. Then I decided to use it in another machine as the boot drive. I didn't have any partitioning software on this XP machine so I booted off my old Partition Magic 8 floppies. For some reason PM8 DOS reported a partition error on the Maxtor when it started up,.. something about 1024 end point, and asked to fix it... I foolishly said OK and it reported all fixed. But when it finished loading I discovered it had a bad partition no doubt caused by PM8s fixing it. PM8 couldn't delete the partition ... it just showed the bad partition. I thought OK I will use DiskWipe in DOS to wipe it clean. But disk wipe wouldn't load with that DISK hooked up. Nor would a boot floppy, or windows.Only the PM8 DOS floppies will boot and load. I took the drive out, put it on a motherboard with nothing but a cpu, ram, video and a floppy and tried to boot... no can do. There is no data on the drive and it isn't worth much but if I could wipe the drive I could restore it. I can't fix it if I can't boot while it is installed. Have I missed something ... is there a way to fix this? Or is it time to take it apart for the magnets. thanks
