Re: [H] liquid cooling ?
The CLC/AIO water coolers do generally offer superior performance at high TDP, but in my experience, they are not terribly reliable. Across multiple models, generations, and brands, I've had a number of them fail (pump failure or gradual loss of coolant) long before their design lifetime. As such, I've really soured on them. Good Air is now Good Enough. I do still use a custom loop on my main PC (now a Ryzen 3950X) but I recognize that some degree of maintenance is required from time to time. Greg -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 10:36 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] liquid cooling ? is liquid cooling worth the trouble ? hype. all the reviews I read do not really show any better performance then my Noctua cooler on my 9900K. I get 30/34º c idle and usually no more then 55ºC full load (95+watts on cpu) running RC5 to load. not overclocked, have not pushed anything in years. my bad I find the AIO units interesting and would like to play but I will need a new case (:( Thanks hohoho\ fuf
Re: [H] liquid cooling ?
For these high TDP processors Liquid is the only way to go. On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:35 AM FORC5 wrote: > is liquid cooling worth the trouble ? hype. > > all the reviews I read do not really show any > better performance then my Noctua cooler on > my 9900K. I get 30/34º c idle and usually no > more then 55ºC full load (95+watts on cpu) > running RC5 to load. > > not overclocked, have not pushed anything in > years. my bad > > I find the AIO units interesting and would > like to play but I will need a new case (:( > > Thanks > > hohoho\ > > fuf > > > -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] liquid cooling ?
I agree that closed loop is the best way to go if using liquid cooling.. I'm using 3 closed loop cooling systems and they work well. I don't care to use DIY setups because of possible leaks, etc. 2 of them are single fan + radiator and the 3rd is quad fan + radiator on a threadripper system. lopaka On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:09 AM Winterlight wrote: > > If you are thinking about cooling your CPU it is > easy because it is a closed system with a > radiator, fan and,plate to screw down to your > CPU.You install, run and pretty much forget > about.It. However it is considerably more > expensive then air and really not needed if you don't over clock. > > If you are thinking about a whole case cooling > system that cools down everything quietly... CPU > GPU RAM Hard drive then you probably want a case > with built in radiator. You will need hoses, a > pump and cooling plate attachments in a kit > form. It is not a closed system, requires > maintenance, can leak, will evaporate and require > replenishment and, is something you will be > fiddling with until you find the right balance. I > have not done one but it sounds like way too much > trouble and cost unless you are running at the > extreme edge of performance and are troubled by fan noise. > > At 09:35 AM 5/19/2020, you wrote: > >is liquid cooling worth the trouble ? hype. > > > >all the reviews I read do not really show any > >better performance then my Noctua cooler on my > >9900K. I get 30/34º c idle and usually no more > >then 55ºC full load (95+watts on cpu) running RC5 to load. > > > >not overclocked, have not pushed anything in years. my bad > > > >I find the AIO units interesting and would like > >to play but I will need a new case (:( > > > >Thanks > > > >hohoho\ > > > >fuf > > > > > >
Re: [H] liquid cooling ?
If you are thinking about cooling your CPU it is easy because it is a closed system with a radiator, fan and,plate to screw down to your CPU.You install, run and pretty much forget about.It. However it is considerably more expensive then air and really not needed if you don't over clock. If you are thinking about a whole case cooling system that cools down everything quietly... CPU GPU RAM Hard drive then you probably want a case with built in radiator. You will need hoses, a pump and cooling plate attachments in a kit form. It is not a closed system, requires maintenance, can leak, will evaporate and require replenishment and, is something you will be fiddling with until you find the right balance. I have not done one but it sounds like way too much trouble and cost unless you are running at the extreme edge of performance and are troubled by fan noise. At 09:35 AM 5/19/2020, you wrote: is liquid cooling worth the trouble ? hype. all the reviews I read do not really show any better performance then my Noctua cooler on my 9900K. I get 30/34º c idle and usually no more then 55ºC full load (95+watts on cpu) running RC5 to load. not overclocked, have not pushed anything in years. my bad I find the AIO units interesting and would like to play but I will need a new case (:( Thanks hohoho\ fuf
[H] liquid cooling ?
is liquid cooling worth the trouble ? hype. all the reviews I read do not really show any better performance then my Noctua cooler on my 9900K. I get 30/34º c idle and usually no more then 55ºC full load (95+watts on cpu) running RC5 to load. not overclocked, have not pushed anything in years. my bad I find the AIO units interesting and would like to play but I will need a new case (:( Thanks hohoho\ fuf