Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
Yeah, I'll be sure to tweak it eventually but I need to get more edumacated on the new BIOS settings and what they mean. My HT speed is running at 1000 which is half what it should be and my NB speed is 1600 which may or may not be stock. DHSinclair wrote: Stan, So happy that you are happy with your new Phenom 2 X3 720 BE. Will be interested about stuff that happens in the future; you will tweak, of course! Can not share. I have moved to C2D. Am happy with how they (3) work so far. Thanks, Duncan At 16:58 02/18/2009 -0600, you wrote: Well, I guess Jim didn't approve of my attachment but that's ok. CPU-z v 1.50 says that its a Phenom 2 X3 720 BE but then you look further down and the specification string shows Phenom 2 X4 20 Black Edition. Notice that it has a "20" instead of "720" and that it says "X4". The screen shot I wanted to show has Window's Task Monitor showing 4 cores running and Core Temp also shows 4 cores. Either I'm dopped up or this particular CPU got past QC without one of the cores being neutered. Anybody want to see that Jpeg just PM me and I'll send it as I really want to get some feedback on what's happening. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined. __ NOD32 3866 (20090218) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
Stan, So happy that you are happy with your new Phenom 2 X3 720 BE. Will be interested about stuff that happens in the future; you will tweak, of course! Can not share. I have moved to C2D. Am happy with how they (3) work so far. Thanks, Duncan At 16:58 02/18/2009 -0600, you wrote: Well, I guess Jim didn't approve of my attachment but that's ok. CPU-z v 1.50 says that its a Phenom 2 X3 720 BE but then you look further down and the specification string shows Phenom 2 X4 20 Black Edition. Notice that it has a "20" instead of "720" and that it says "X4". The screen shot I wanted to show has Window's Task Monitor showing 4 cores running and Core Temp also shows 4 cores. Either I'm dopped up or this particular CPU got past QC without one of the cores being neutered. Anybody want to see that Jpeg just PM me and I'll send it as I really want to get some feedback on what's happening. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined. __ NOD32 3866 (20090218) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
Well, I guess Jim didn't approve of my attachment but that's ok. CPU-z v 1.50 says that its a Phenom 2 X3 720 BE but then you look further down and the specification string shows Phenom 2 X4 20 Black Edition. Notice that it has a "20" instead of "720" and that it says "X4". The screen shot I wanted to show has Window's Task Monitor showing 4 cores running and Core Temp also shows 4 cores. Either I'm dopped up or this particular CPU got past QC without one of the cores being neutered. Anybody want to see that Jpeg just PM me and I'll send it as I really want to get some feedback on what's happening. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined.
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:39:29 -0600 Stan Zaske wrote: > hope I'm not violating list > policy by sending an attachment The server stripped the attachment. regards, Al
Re: [H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
The 720's finally showed up at the Egg last Thursday and the UPS man delivered it a couple hours ago. Being my first Phenom I was somewhat confused by the newly unlocked BIOS options on my Biostar 790GX mobo and it kept spontaneously re-booting when I first fired it up. I thought at first it was because I had all four DIMM slots filled but it ran fine with my old CPU and then I looked at the VID and it was set at 1.14v which is seriously low. I bumped it up to the next tic and now its running fine and so far stable. I also fiddled with other confusing settings so I'm not 100% that it was the low VID that was the problem. Anywho, I wanted ask for any body's input about a curious thing that I have been pondering for an hour over. I hope I'm not violating list policy by sending an attachment and if I am then please accept my apology. Take a look at this Jpeg screen capture and tell me what you think of it. Thanks! Stan Zaske wrote: Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined.
[H] AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Review & Overclocking
Check it out guys, I think this is the best bang for the buck to upgrade my old 5400+ BE. :-) http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/ *snip* I think the reason AMD targeted the E8400 is due to the third core, the Phenom II X3 720 BE running at 2.8GHz actually outperforms the Core 2 Duo E8400 running at 3GHz for rendering; thus supporting AMD's marketing strategy that three cores are better than two. That strategy is absolutely true - if the software can support it. If LAME and TMPGEnc had supported more threads, the Phenom II X3 720 would also have beaten the Core 2 Duo E8400 for them. Fortunately, more multi-threaded codecs are becoming available, and I will soon look for one for benchmarking purposes. What the benchmarks don't show you is that with three cores, a system will multi-task more smoothly. For example, using a Phenom II X3 720 for a small server should result in better web server and SQL server performance, as the extra core could be take advantage of. I think the AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition is a great chip - and it is especially good for people who like to tinker and overclock, as with a cheap 780G based motherboard and DDR2 you can put together a nice fast overclocked system for significantly less than it would cost to put together a nicely overclocked E8400 system. Yes, for some benchmarks the E8400 won - but for some others, it was the triple core 720BE that shined.
