Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
So, if one has AnyDVD could one watch blue-ray on a PC without having ot have all of this stuff (other than that $100 blue-ray player that someone posted)? Brian Weeden wrote: Like I said, *legally* you need HDCP to view Blu-Rays :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well not really. The way HDCP is supposed to work is *if* the disk has the secure content flag set to on then the player and the OS should verify that the complete playback chain is HDCP compliant. This is to prevent you from being able copy the digital decoded stream and doing bad things with it. There are a couple of flaws in this (shocking I know). The first is that the copy protection of both HD-DVD and BluRay has been broken by AnyDVD. So you are free to rip and make copies regardless of the HDCP chain. The second is that PowerDVD (arguably the best HD player out there) has a nasty habit of enforcing the HDCP chain even if the title being played doesn't require it. Which is pretty sucky if you ask me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: 29 November 2008 12:47 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc? 1080p is essentially 1920 x 1080, a res that a lot of computer monitors have been able to display for a long time. Of course, to legally play back Blu-rays on a pc you need both a video card and monitor that support HDCP, which sucks.
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
If you use Any-DVD to Rip and strip out the copy protection, then you can use a variety of free codecs, like ffdshow and Haali media splitter to do the playback. But again, that's not the legal route. --- Brian On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do still need software that is capable of playing the content though, and at the moment (and for the foreseeable future) that is all commercial applications. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: 02 December 2008 13:10 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc? Yep. Just rip the Blu-Ray to the hard disk using Any DVD. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So, if one has AnyDVD could one watch blue-ray on a PC without having ot have all of this stuff (other than that $100 blue-ray player that someone posted)? Brian Weeden wrote: Like I said, *legally* you need HDCP to view Blu-Rays :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well not really. The way HDCP is supposed to work is *if* the disk has the secure content flag set to on then the player and the OS should verify that the complete playback chain is HDCP compliant. This is to prevent you from being able copy the digital decoded stream and doing bad things with it. There are a couple of flaws in this (shocking I know). The first is that the copy protection of both HD-DVD and BluRay has been broken by AnyDVD. So you are free to rip and make copies regardless of the HDCP chain. The second is that PowerDVD (arguably the best HD player out there) has a nasty habit of enforcing the HDCP chain even if the title being played doesn't require it. Which is pretty sucky if you ask me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: 29 November 2008 12:47 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc? 1080p is essentially 1920 x 1080, a res that a lot of computer monitors have been able to display for a long time. Of course, to legally play back Blu-rays on a pc you need both a video card and monitor that support HDCP, which sucks.
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
Yep. Just rip the Blu-Ray to the hard disk using Any DVD. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So, if one has AnyDVD could one watch blue-ray on a PC without having ot have all of this stuff (other than that $100 blue-ray player that someone posted)? Brian Weeden wrote: Like I said, *legally* you need HDCP to view Blu-Rays :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well not really. The way HDCP is supposed to work is *if* the disk has the secure content flag set to on then the player and the OS should verify that the complete playback chain is HDCP compliant. This is to prevent you from being able copy the digital decoded stream and doing bad things with it. There are a couple of flaws in this (shocking I know). The first is that the copy protection of both HD-DVD and BluRay has been broken by AnyDVD. So you are free to rip and make copies regardless of the HDCP chain. The second is that PowerDVD (arguably the best HD player out there) has a nasty habit of enforcing the HDCP chain even if the title being played doesn't require it. Which is pretty sucky if you ask me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: 29 November 2008 12:47 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc? 1080p is essentially 1920 x 1080, a res that a lot of computer monitors have been able to display for a long time. Of course, to legally play back Blu-rays on a pc you need both a video card and monitor that support HDCP, which sucks.
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell yes. DVD is 480p, blu-ray is 1080p. Of course, some transfers are better than others but it's still night and day. Cars is one of the better blu-rays i've seen. Is this on a 1080p LCD monitor?
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
1080p is essentially 1920 x 1080, a res that a lot of computer monitors have been able to display for a long time. Of course, to legally play back Blu-rays on a pc you need both a video card and monitor that support HDCP, which sucks. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation Sent from my iPhone On 29-Nov-08, at 4:16 AM, Raul Limos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell yes. DVD is 480p, blu-ray is 1080p. Of course, some transfers are better than others but it's still night and day. Cars is one of the better blu-rays i've seen. Is this on a 1080p LCD monitor?
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
Well not really. The way HDCP is supposed to work is *if* the disk has the secure content flag set to on then the player and the OS should verify that the complete playback chain is HDCP compliant. This is to prevent you from being able copy the digital decoded stream and doing bad things with it. There are a couple of flaws in this (shocking I know). The first is that the copy protection of both HD-DVD and BluRay has been broken by AnyDVD. So you are free to rip and make copies regardless of the HDCP chain. The second is that PowerDVD (arguably the best HD player out there) has a nasty habit of enforcing the HDCP chain even if the title being played doesn't require it. Which is pretty sucky if you ask me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: 29 November 2008 12:47 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc? 1080p is essentially 1920 x 1080, a res that a lot of computer monitors have been able to display for a long time. Of course, to legally play back Blu-rays on a pc you need both a video card and monitor that support HDCP, which sucks.
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
Like I said, *legally* you need HDCP to view Blu-Rays :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well not really. The way HDCP is supposed to work is *if* the disk has the secure content flag set to on then the player and the OS should verify that the complete playback chain is HDCP compliant. This is to prevent you from being able copy the digital decoded stream and doing bad things with it. There are a couple of flaws in this (shocking I know). The first is that the copy protection of both HD-DVD and BluRay has been broken by AnyDVD. So you are free to rip and make copies regardless of the HDCP chain. The second is that PowerDVD (arguably the best HD player out there) has a nasty habit of enforcing the HDCP chain even if the title being played doesn't require it. Which is pretty sucky if you ask me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: 29 November 2008 12:47 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc? 1080p is essentially 1920 x 1080, a res that a lot of computer monitors have been able to display for a long time. Of course, to legally play back Blu-rays on a pc you need both a video card and monitor that support HDCP, which sucks.
[H] Blue-ray on pc?
What is the point of blue-ray on a pc? Is it really better than dvd? Thx. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the point of blue-ray on a pc? Is it really better than dvd? Thx. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
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Re: [H] Blue-ray on pc?
Hell yes. DVD is 480p, blu-ray is 1080p. Of course, some transfers are better than others but it's still night and day. Cars is one of the better blu-rays i've seen. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation Sent from my iPhone On 28-Nov-08, at 6:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the point of blue-ray on a pc? Is it really better than dvd? Thx. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
