Re: [H] Hi All / System stutter problems
Hey Jim Greg, good to hear from you two. How would I check for the AGPGart issue? Greg, I checked and Cool-and-Quiet was disabled, but I: Disabled CPU Thermal Throttling (what does that do? - was at 50%) Upgraded the BIOS Removed the onboard sound and added my Audigy After those 3, stutters seem to at least have been reduced (for now), but I'm afraid this may be something that builds up over time after my computer's been running for awhile. Need to do more testing... Another major problem that may be related is when accessing my optical drives sometimes my system hangs / slows for a short while. A good example is when I start burning a DVD with DVDShrink. When my burner first gets started, I could be typing this email (as I was actually), and typed a few words that didn't show up until a minute later... For the rest of the burn it did okay though... Thoughts? Thanks, --Kyle Yamnitz Your Basic Computer Hardware Page: http://www.BasicHardware.com The Lesson Plans Page: http://www.LessonPlansPage.com -- Original message -- From: Jim Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Going from AGP to PCI-E right? Could the agpgart thing be hanging around causing this? Wild guess here. Good to here from you Kyle. :) At 2/28/2006 10:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Nice to see the list is still running - I've been away for a *long* time :( I applied for voluntary separation plan at my work yesterday though, so maybe I'll get back into this a little (going back to running my business full time instead of 2 careers)... Anyway, I'm having an odd problem that I'm hoping someone may have some experience with. I upgraded my Win XP PC w/o reinstalling the OS (went from nForce 2 Ultra to nForce 4 Ultra board) - I don't really have a choice. Everything works fine, except for this nagging issue. Games play fine and frame rate is high, but I get stutters in games (pause for a split second then jerk forward). Oddly enough, the same thing happens when playing DVDs in PowerDVD and videos in Windows Media Player! :( Another odd issue is that my desktop icons get refreshed occasionally and are slow to redraw... I have the latest mobo drivers, video card drivers, DirectX (reports no problems), etc. Here's my config: DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D Athlon 64 Venice 3500+ EVGA 7800 GT 2 GB Geil PC3200 2-3-2-5 was using onboard sound - about to try my old Audigy 2 older IDE drives, 1 SATA, 2 IDE optical drives BTW, I did use DriverCleaner Pro to clean the cabs, clean for NVIDIA motherboard / video, and clean Creative... I've tried different versions of the video drivers as well. TTYL, --Kyle Yamnitz Your Basic Computer Hardware Page: http://www.BasicHardware.com The Lesson Plans Page: http://www.LessonPlansPage.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 2/28/2006
Re: [H] Hi All / System stutter problems
Have you checked Windows Task Manager to see where your CPU cycles are being used most? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jim Greg, good to hear from you two. How would I check for the AGPGart issue? Greg, I checked and Cool-and-Quiet was disabled, but I: Disabled CPU Thermal Throttling (what does that do? - was at 50%) Upgraded the BIOS Removed the onboard sound and added my Audigy After those 3, stutters seem to at least have been reduced (for now), but I'm afraid this may be something that builds up over time after my computer's been running for awhile. Need to do more testing... Another major problem that may be related is when accessing my optical drives sometimes my system hangs / slows for a short while. A good example is when I start burning a DVD with DVDShrink. When my burner first gets started, I could be typing this email (as I was actually), and typed a few words that didn't show up until a minute later... For the rest of the burn it did okay though... Thoughts? Thanks, --Kyle Yamnitz Your Basic Computer Hardware Page: http://www.BasicHardware.com The Lesson Plans Page: http://www.LessonPlansPage.com -- Original message -- From: Jim Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Going from AGP to PCI-E right? Could the agpgart thing be hanging around causing this? Wild guess here. Good to here from you Kyle. :) At 2/28/2006 10:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Nice to see the list is still running - I've been away for a *long* time :( I applied for voluntary separation plan at my work yesterday though, so maybe I'll get back into this a little (going back to running my business full time instead of 2 careers)... Anyway, I'm having an odd problem that I'm hoping someone may have some experience with. I upgraded my Win XP PC w/o reinstalling the OS (went from nForce 2 Ultra to nForce 4 Ultra board) - I don't really have a choice. Everything works fine, except for this nagging issue. Games play fine and frame rate is high, but I get stutters in games (pause for a split second then jerk forward). Oddly enough, the same thing happens when playing DVDs in PowerDVD and videos in Windows Media Player! :( Another odd issue is that my desktop icons get refreshed occasionally and are slow to redraw... I have the latest mobo drivers, video card drivers, DirectX (reports no problems), etc. Here's my config: DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D Athlon 64 Venice 3500+ EVGA 7800 GT 2 GB Geil PC3200 2-3-2-5 was using onboard sound - about to try my old Audigy 2 older IDE drives, 1 SATA, 2 IDE optical drives BTW, I did use DriverCleaner Pro to clean the cabs, clean for NVIDIA motherboard / video, and clean Creative... I've tried different versions of the video drivers as well. TTYL, --Kyle Yamnitz Your Basic Computer Hardware Page: http://www.BasicHardware.com The Lesson Plans Page: http://www.LessonPlansPage.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 2/28/2006
Re: [H] Hi All / System stutter problems
I get the same on kind of *pause* while gaming and think it has something to do with CD/DVD rom drive access. Don't think it's CPU cycles but a hardware/interrupt thing since I get it on both the laptop (P4/2Ghz) and the desktop (XP2800) here with even older games like CC generals when scrolling across map. Dell did fuck up IMO by putting the internal optical drive on same chain as HDD in the laptop, why is a mystery. Stan Zaske wrote: Have you checked Windows Task Manager to see where your CPU cycles are being used most? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jim Greg, good to hear from you two. How would I check for the AGPGart issue? Greg, I checked and Cool-and-Quiet was disabled, but I: Disabled CPU Thermal Throttling (what does that do? - was at 50%) Upgraded the BIOS Removed the onboard sound and added my Audigy After those 3, stutters seem to at least have been reduced (for now), but I'm afraid this may be something that builds up over time after my computer's been running for awhile. Need to do more testing... Another major problem that may be related is when accessing my optical drives sometimes my system hangs / slows for a short while. A good example is when I start burning a DVD with DVDShrink. When my burner first gets started, I could be typing this email (as I was actually), and typed a few words that didn't show up until a minute later... For the rest of the burn it did okay though... Thoughts? Thanks, --Kyle Yamnitz Your Basic Computer Hardware Page: http://www.BasicHardware.com
Re: [H] Hi All / System stutter problems
Hey Kyle! Welcome back! How's the family? Glad to see that the website is taking off! When I've had the problem like you describe below, I usually end up reformatting and putting Windows back on, as it's a PAIN in the ass to get working otherwise. I presume you've looked in your Event Log and haven't see any problems there. What programs are running in the background? BTW, as you said, the NVIDIA Firewall is good for blocking application stuff. You never know, someone might mistakenly install a trojan on your computer and that would pick it up. It's also hardware accelerated, so it doen't affect speed much. Take care and good seeing you back! Julian _ Julian Zottl CTO, Radiant Network Technology, LLC Getting ahead in the tech sector isn't about kissing butt ... you gotta sniff the right packets -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:50:13 + Hey guys, Nice to see the list is still running - I've been away for a *long* time :( I applied for voluntary separation plan at my work yesterday though, so maybe I'll get back into this a little (going back to running my business full time instead of 2 careers)... Anyway, I'm having an odd problem that I'm hoping someone may have some experience with. I upgraded my Win XP PC w/o reinstalling the OS (went from nForce 2 Ultra to nForce 4 Ultra board) - I don't really have a choice. Everything works fine, except for this nagging issue. Games play fine and frame rate is high, but I get stutters in games (pause for a split second then jerk forward). Oddly enough, the same thing happens when playing DVDs in PowerDVD and videos in Windows Media Player! :( Another odd issue is that my desktop icons get refreshed occasionally and are slow to redraw... I have the latest mobo drivers, video card drivers, DirectX (reports no problems), etc. Here's my config: DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D Athlon 64 Venice 3500+ EVGA 7800 GT 2 GB Geil PC3200 2-3-2-5 was using onboard sound - about to try my old Audigy 2 older IDE drives, 1 SATA, 2 IDE optical drives BTW, I did use DriverCleaner Pro to clean the cabs, clean for NVIDIA motherboard / video, and clean Creative... I've tried different versions of the video drivers as well. TTYL, --Kyle Yamnitz Your Basic Computer Hardware Page: http://www.BasicHardware.com The Lesson Plans Page: http://www.LessonPlansPage.com
Re: [H] Hi All / System stutter problems
At 11:46 AM 3/1/2006, warpmedia typed: Dell did fuck up IMO by putting the internal optical drive on same chain as HDD in the laptop, why is a mystery. One less IDE cable they have to use. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] Hi All / System stutter problems
Have you checked that you are using DMA for your IDE drivers in device Manager and also have you turned on/off autostart? Um, agpgart You might see if that is trying to load during the boot up process and also consider running a old driver cleaner app.
