subject:"\[H\] My 2010 Gamer PC Build"

OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

So far I already have here:

Intel Core i7-930
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


Here is what I plan on ordering next:


* GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
* G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
* XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
* Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
change my mind on something please let me know.

Thanks All...


On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote:
 That Kingston model has a new Toshiba controller and uses Toshiba NAND. It
 might be fine, but after the number of failed Vertex drives I've had, I'm
 sticking with something more enterprise and/or proven--which means Intel to
 me.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL
 Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:32 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Back to SSD. What form factor do I need to be looking at here? I just got
 my
 cooler master case and power supply. I need to open them up tomorrow and
 have a look around. Microcenter has the i7 930 for 199 local so I am going
 to
 pick one of those up. I sort have been dragging my feet with the SSD
 situation.

 I see form factors of 2.5 and 3.5. Will I need some adapter to make it
 fit in
 the tower?

 Been eyeing the Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB
 SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $230.

 Or the...

 Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2/128GB 2.5 128GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $320.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Anthony Q. Martin


All that sweetness and no blu-ray?

On 5/3/2010 2:58 PM, GPL wrote:

OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

So far I already have here:

Intel Core i7-930
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


Here is what I plan on ordering next:


* GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
* G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
* XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
* Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
change my mind on something please let me know.

Thanks All...


On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Greg Sevartad...@xfury.net  wrote:
   

That Kingston model has a new Toshiba controller and uses Toshiba NAND. It
might be fine, but after the number of failed Vertex drives I've had, I'm
sticking with something more enterprise and/or proven--which means Intel to
me.

 

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:32 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Back to SSD. What form factor do I need to be looking at here? I just got
   

my
 

cooler master case and power supply. I need to open them up tomorrow and
have a look around. Microcenter has the i7 930 for 199 local so I am going
   

to
 

pick one of those up. I sort have been dragging my feet with the SSD
situation.

I see form factors of 2.5 and 3.5. Will I need some adapter to make it
   

fit in
 

the tower?

Been eyeing the Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB
SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $230.

Or the...

Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2/128GB 2.5 128GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $320.
   


 





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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread maccrawj

Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go 
wrong with Gigabyte.


Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt 
by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!


On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

So far I already have here:

Intel Core i7-930
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


Here is what I plan on ordering next:


* GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
* G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
* XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
* Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
change my mind on something please let me know.

Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Julian Zottl

Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

Julian


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


 Here is what I plan on ordering next:


 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset
on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing
something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK.

I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD
collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my
little kids play on the DVD player in house and car.

I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


 Here is what I plan on ordering next:


 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

1099T? What is that? A TAX FORM?

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, GPL hardwarelistrea...@gmail.com wrote:
 I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset
 on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing
 something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK.

 I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD
 collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my
 little kids play on the DVD player in house and car.

 I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one.

 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


 Here is what I plan on ordering next:


 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal.  It 
won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake 
any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.  I guess I'm 
not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

Julian

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S

 Here is what I plan on ordering next:

 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

I bought the i7 930 at Microcenter for $199 myself. The rest of the
stuff was/will be bought online. For some reason the microcenter i7
930 deal was way too good a deal not to drive down there and pay for.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM,  tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
 Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal.  
 It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of 
 handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.  I 
 guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net
 Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
 a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.
 
 Julian


 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


 Here is what I plan on ordering next:


 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Sometimes microcenter just throws out processors at a crazy loss. 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: GPL hardwarelistrea...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:17:08 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

I bought the i7 930 at Microcenter for $199 myself. The rest of the
stuff was/will be bought online. For some reason the microcenter i7
930 deal was way too good a deal not to drive down there and pay for.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM,  tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
 Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal.  
 It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of 
 handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.  I 
 guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net
 Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
 a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

 Julian

 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S

 Here is what I plan on ordering next:

 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread maccrawj

Well for stereo mode w/ headset no real advantage above AC97's though some of the 
crap mobo makers are using have major driver support issues (ADI Soundmax in my case) 
where they don't update  the ODM won't release updates either.


As far as bluray I meant if the drives are cheap then having the ability to read data 
and/or video discs could be an worthwhile investment.


On 5/3/2010 12:42 PM, GPL wrote:

I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset
on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing
something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK.

I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD
collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my
little kids play on the DVD player in house and car.

I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

I use the mobo sound on my Gigabyte more for blu-rays...it sounds great! 
Same for music too.  With a good quality mobo, it seems there is little 
reason to buy a sound card...


On 5/3/2010 6:29 PM, maccrawj wrote:
Well for stereo mode w/ headset no real advantage above AC97's though 
some of the crap mobo makers are using have major driver support 
issues (ADI Soundmax in my case) where they don't update  the ODM 
won't release updates either.


As far as bluray I meant if the drives are cheap then having the 
ability to read data and/or video discs could be an worthwhile 
investment.


On 5/3/2010 12:42 PM, GPL wrote:

I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset
on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing
something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK.

I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD
collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my
little kids play on the DVD player in house and car.

I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com  wrote:
Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but 
doubt

you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? 
Don't

get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!




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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Stan Zaske

I just bought one on Ebay minutes ago for $189 free shipping. A drop in 
solution with the F10 BIOS version on my Gigabyte mobo. Was really 
hoping to get it for less but oh well, them's the breaks..



On 5/3/2010 2:42 PM, Julian Zottl wrote:

Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

Julian


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 

OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

So far I already have here:

Intel Core i7-930
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


Here is what I plan on ordering next:


* GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
* G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
* XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
* Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
change my mind on something please let me know.

Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Stan Zaske


Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself.


On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal.  It 
won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake 
any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.  I guess I'm 
not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me.
Sent via BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

Julian


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 

OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

So far I already have here:

Intel Core i7-930
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


Here is what I plan on ordering next:


* GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
* G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
* XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
* Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
change my mind on something please let me know.

Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). 

But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever.  
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself.

On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
 Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal.  
 It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of 
 handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.  I 
 guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net
 Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
 a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

 Julian

 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S

 Here is what I plan on ordering next:

 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Stan Zaske

You're talking about an i7 975? If it runs that closely to such a high 
dollar setup I'm stoked..



On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close).

But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever.
Sent via BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself.


On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
   

Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal.  It 
won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake 
any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.  I guess I'm 
not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me.
Sent via BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to build
a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

Julian


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com   wrote:


 

Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt
you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't
get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:


   

OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

So far I already have here:

Intel Core i7-930
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


Here is what I plan on ordering next:


* GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
* G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
* XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
* Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
change my mind on something please let me know.

Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Julian Zottl

All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.htmlNo,
it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their $1000
chip (vs $200 for the 1090T).

Julian


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

 You're talking about an i7 975? If it runs that closely to such a high
 dollar setup I'm stoked..



 On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

 It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close).

 But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself.


 On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:


 Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a
 deal.  It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out
 of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.
  I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net
 Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to
 build
 a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.
 
 Julian


 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com   wrote:




 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but
 doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card?
 Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:




 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S


 Here is what I plan on ordering next:


 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3
 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

I'd agree. Hadn't seen their reviews will check.  But everyone seems to be 
using the non-updated x64 build of x264. But the performance rocks for it.  
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:36:06 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.htmlNo,
it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their $1000
chip (vs $200 for the 1090T).

Julian

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

 You're talking about an i7 975? If it runs that closely to such a high
 dollar setup I'm stoked..

 On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

 It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close).

 But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself.

 On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

 Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a
 deal.  It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out
 of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks.  I mean, really rocks.
  I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net
 Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T?  I too as going to
 build
 a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it.

 Julian

 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com   wrote:

 Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but
 doubt
 you can go wrong with Gigabyte.

 Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card?
 Don't
 get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!

 On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote:

 OK, well I see it's time I update the post.

 So far I already have here:

 Intel Core i7-930
 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W
 COOLER MASTER HAF 922
 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S

 Here is what I plan on ordering next:

 * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
 * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3
 12800)
 * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB
 * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a
 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps
 the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200.

 I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well.

 I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has
 anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me
 change my mind on something please let me know.

 Thanks All...

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Greg Sevart

Yeah, I doubt it will change anything, but I'd love it if this pushes Intel
to release some reasonably priced 32nm 6-core i7's. Or hell, even a s1366
32nm quad-core would be nice.

For the record, the 3.2GHz 1090T is $300, the 2.8GHz 1055T is $200.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Julian Zottl
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
 
 All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T:
 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-
 890fx,2613.html
 http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-
 1055t-reviewed
 
 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-
 890fx,2613.htmlNo,
 it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their
$1000 chip (vs
 $200 for the 1090T).
 
 Julian

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-03 Thread Julian Zottl

Oops, sorry about the price mix up!

One other thing: On air cooling, people are getting it to 4Ghz :)

Julian


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote:

 Yeah, I doubt it will change anything, but I'd love it if this pushes Intel
 to release some reasonably priced 32nm 6-core i7's. Or hell, even a s1366
 32nm quad-core would be nice.

 For the record, the 3.2GHz 1090T is $300, the 2.8GHz 1055T is $200.

  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Julian Zottl
  Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 PM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
 
  All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T:
  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-
  890fx,2613.html
  http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-
  1055t-reviewed
 
  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-
  890fx,2613.htmlNo,
  it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their
 $1000 chip (vs
  $200 for the 1090T).
  
  Julian

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-26 Thread GPL

Back to SSD. What form factor do I need to be looking at here? I just
got my cooler master case and power supply. I need to open them up
tomorrow and have a look around. Microcenter has the i7 930 for 199
local so I am going to pick one of those up. I sort have been dragging
my feet with the SSD situation.

I see form factors of 2.5 and 3.5. Will I need some adapter to make
it fit in the tower?

Been eyeing the Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA
II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $230.

Or the...

Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2/128GB 2.5 128GB SATA II MLC
Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $320.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-26 Thread John R Steinbruner

I have the Intel 80 gig (for my laptop) and the 160 gig (for my dual boot 
desktop), and they both came with a 3.5 inch adapter, so it's not really an 
issue.  :)
...


On Apr 26, 2010, at 6:32 PM, GPL wrote:

 Back to SSD. What form factor do I need to be looking at here? I just
 got my cooler master case and power supply. I need to open them up
 tomorrow and have a look around. Microcenter has the i7 930 for 199
 local so I am going to pick one of those up. I sort have been dragging
 my feet with the SSD situation.
 
 I see form factors of 2.5 and 3.5. Will I need some adapter to make
 it fit in the tower?
 
 Been eyeing the Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA
 II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $230.
 
 Or the...
 
 Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2/128GB 2.5 128GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $320.


-- 
JRS
stei...@pacbell.net

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-26 Thread Greg Sevart

That Kingston model has a new Toshiba controller and uses Toshiba NAND. It
might be fine, but after the number of failed Vertex drives I've had, I'm
sticking with something more enterprise and/or proven--which means Intel to
me.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL
 Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:32 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Back to SSD. What form factor do I need to be looking at here? I just got
my
 cooler master case and power supply. I need to open them up tomorrow and
 have a look around. Microcenter has the i7 930 for 199 local so I am going
to
 pick one of those up. I sort have been dragging my feet with the SSD
 situation.

 I see form factors of 2.5 and 3.5. Will I need some adapter to make it
fit in
 the tower?

 Been eyeing the Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB
 SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $230.

 Or the...

 Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2/128GB 2.5 128GB SATA II MLC
 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $320.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-23 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

This is the hardware group, right. At least that's what they told me
about the 6-monitor setup. :)

Perhaps you need one of these too:
*http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3242/sapphire_radeon_hd_5970_toxic_4gb_video_card/index.html*

On 4/22/2010 4:04 PM, GPL wrote:

Thanks guys, someone pick me up off the floor. I just priced the Intel
X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH160G2R5 2.5 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid
State Drive (SSD)
Rated THE BEST SSD by DRAMeXchange

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote:

The 160 GB SSD drive deal is working well for me so far. I just made sure
that ALL of the user stuff is on the data drive and only program files goes
to the SSD. You do have to spend some time reconfiguring things in windows
so that it points to the right place, but once you do that you can image the
SSD so that next time everything will automatically point to the right
locations when you reinstall.

I think the SSD drive is a good idea.

On 4/22/2010 12:54 PM, GPL wrote:

OK, moving right along I'm at the Hard Drive stage. A couple of people
have told me to go the SSD route for the OS/APPS drive and grab a 1TB
drive for the data. It seems pretty expensive for say an 80GB drive
and it's just not that much space. Right now I have a C and D drive,
two separate hard drivers. My C drive shows 127GB with 15GB free. SO,
that tells me 80GB is hard to swallow for that price. I can always put
only the intensive apps on their like the OS, and Microsoft's FSX. I'm
sure the 1TB drive will be fast enough for me to load games and such
off of.

How do you feel about the SSD drive route in a new PC BUILD?

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.netwrote:

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:24:08PM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:

I'd look at the i7-930. The 260MHz added by the 950 isn't worth more
than
double the price. Microcenter has the 930 for $199 if you have one
handy.

Agreed. Also overclocking even though you're not into it, is a simple
matter of
changing one field in the BIOS and gaining 300-400Mhz :)

My i920 2.67Ghz runs at 3.4Ghz easy, stock / retail cooling.

I just upgraded my system with the Gigabyte X58A-UD5. The UD3R would
also be
a good choice. I wanted a few of the extras on the UD5: onboard debug
LEDs
and 12+2+2 phase voltage regulation. Neither of these may matter if you
aren't looking to overclock.

I prefer ASUS motherboards these days but I hear Gigabyte can be ok too.

Bryan G. Seitz

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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-23 Thread GPL

I may at the least get a SSD for the O/S and put the hog of much
software in my collection MS FSX on it too. I wont have a problem
waiting a few extra seconds to load other games off the second slower
drive.

Tell you what though, its all pretty exciting stuff :-)

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote:
This is the hardware group, right. At least that's what they told me about
the 6-monitor setup. :)

Perhaps you need one of these too:
*http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3242/sapphire_radeon_hd_5970_toxic_4gb_video_card/index.html*

On 4/22/2010 4:04 PM, GPL wrote:

Thanks guys, someone pick me up off the floor. I just priced the Intel
X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH160G2R5 2.5 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid
State Drive (SSD)
Rated THE BEST SSD by DRAMeXchange

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net
wrote:

The 160 GB SSD drive deal is working well for me so far. I just made
sure
that ALL of the user stuff is on the data drive and only program files
goes
to the SSD. You do have to spend some time reconfiguring things in
windows
so that it points to the right place, but once you do that you can image
the
SSD so that next time everything will automatically point to the right
locations when you reinstall.

I think the SSD drive is a good idea.

On 4/22/2010 12:54 PM, GPL wrote:

How do you feel about the SSD drive route in a new PC BUILD?

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net
wrote:

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:24:08PM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:

I'd look at the i7-930. The 260MHz added by the 950 isn't worth more
than
double the price. Microcenter has the 930 for $199 if you have one
handy.

Agreed. Also overclocking even though you're not into it, is a simple
matter of
changing one field in the BIOS and gaining 300-400Mhz :)

My i920 2.67Ghz runs at 3.4Ghz easy, stock / retail cooling.

I prefer ASUS motherboards these days but I hear Gigabyte can be ok
too.

Bryan G. Seitz

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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-23 Thread maccrawj


LOL only if you're nuts enough to buy from Sapphire!

On 4/23/2010 3:26 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

This is the hardware group, right. At least that's what they told me
about the 6-monitor setup. :)

Perhaps you need one of these too:
*http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3242/sapphire_radeon_hd_5970_toxic_4gb_video_card/index.html*



snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-23 Thread maccrawj

Actually with Stalker:CoP I'm wishing I had an SSD to run it from. It real-time 
streams the game data from the HDD causing all sorts of issues if the HDD can't keep 
up. Multipass defragging is slowly helping but I see good reason to go back to the 
days of multiple 500GB partitions each serving their own role to avoid the 1TB++ 
mashup of data that leads to needing a complex  lengthy defrag process!


Seriously, so much more money for a SSD to get faster but wear out quicker? It's got 
a way to go to be ready for the masses.



On 4/23/2010 7:54 AM, GPL wrote:

I may at the least get a SSD for the O/S and put the hog of much
software in my collection MS FSX on it too. I wont have a problem
waiting a few extra seconds to load other games off the second slower
drive.

Tell you what though, its all pretty exciting stuff :-)

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-22 Thread GPL

OK, moving right along I'm at the Hard Drive stage. A couple of people
have told me to go the SSD route for the OS/APPS drive and grab a 1TB
drive for the data. It seems pretty expensive for say an 80GB drive
and it's just not that much space. Right now I have a C and D drive,
two separate hard drivers. My C drive shows 127GB with 15GB free. SO,
that tells me 80GB is hard to swallow for that price. I can always put
only the intensive apps on their like the OS, and Microsoft's FSX. I'm
sure the 1TB drive will be fast enough for me to load games and such
off of.

How do you feel about the SSD drive route in a new PC BUILD?




On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:24:08PM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
 I'd look at the i7-930. The 260MHz added by the 950 isn't worth more than
 double the price. Microcenter has the 930 for $199 if you have one handy.

 Agreed. Also overclocking even though you're not into it, is a simple matter 
 of
 changing one field in the BIOS and gaining 300-400Mhz :)

 My i920 2.67Ghz runs at 3.4Ghz easy, stock / retail cooling.

 I just upgraded my system with the Gigabyte X58A-UD5. The UD3R would also be
 a good choice. I wanted a few of the extras on the UD5: onboard debug LEDs
 and 12+2+2 phase voltage regulation. Neither of these may matter if you
 aren't looking to overclock.


 I prefer ASUS motherboards these days but I hear Gigabyte can be ok too.


 --

 Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-22 Thread JRS

I did it for mine, 160 gig Intel G2 SSD for the boot drive and I use a pair of 
500 gig WD's for my data drives..

It's nice to watch Windows boot in 15-20 seconds.  :)



 -- 
JRS 
stei...@pacbell.net


Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.



- Original Message 
 From: GPL hardwarelistrea...@gmail.com
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 9:54:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
 
 OK, moving right along I'm at the Hard Drive stage. A couple of people
have 
 told me to go the SSD route for the OS/APPS drive and grab a 1TB
drive for 
 the data. It seems pretty expensive for say an 80GB drive
and it's just not 
 that much space. Right now I have a C and D drive,
two separate hard drivers. 
 My C drive shows 127GB with 15GB free. SO,
that tells me 80GB is hard to 
 swallow for that price. I can always put
only the intensive apps on their 
 like the OS, and Microsoft's FSX. I'm
sure the 1TB drive will be fast enough 
 for me to load games and such
off of.

How do you feel about the SSD 
 drive route in a new PC BUILD?

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-22 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

The 160 GB SSD drive deal is working well for me so far.  I just made 
sure that ALL of the user stuff is on the data drive and only program 
files goes to the SSD.  You do have to spend some time reconfiguring 
things in windows so that it points to the right place, but once you do 
that you can image the SSD so that next time everything will 
automatically point to the right locations when you reinstall.


I think the SSD drive is a good idea.

On 4/22/2010 12:54 PM, GPL wrote:

OK, moving right along I'm at the Hard Drive stage. A couple of people
have told me to go the SSD route for the OS/APPS drive and grab a 1TB
drive for the data. It seems pretty expensive for say an 80GB drive
and it's just not that much space. Right now I have a C and D drive,
two separate hard drivers. My C drive shows 127GB with 15GB free. SO,
that tells me 80GB is hard to swallow for that price. I can always put
only the intensive apps on their like the OS, and Microsoft's FSX. I'm
sure the 1TB drive will be fast enough for me to load games and such
off of.

How do you feel about the SSD drive route in a new PC BUILD?




On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net  wrote:
   

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:24:08PM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
 

I'd look at the i7-930. The 260MHz added by the 950 isn't worth more than
double the price. Microcenter has the 930 for $199 if you have one handy.
   

Agreed. Also overclocking even though you're not into it, is a simple matter of
changing one field in the BIOS and gaining 300-400Mhz :)

My i920 2.67Ghz runs at 3.4Ghz easy, stock / retail cooling.

 

I just upgraded my system with the Gigabyte X58A-UD5. The UD3R would also be
a good choice. I wanted a few of the extras on the UD5: onboard debug LEDs
and 12+2+2 phase voltage regulation. Neither of these may matter if you
aren't looking to overclock.

   

I prefer ASUS motherboards these days but I hear Gigabyte can be ok too.


--

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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-22 Thread Greg Sevart

They are pricey. They were worth every penny. You would have a perceptibly
faster machine overall by cheaping up some of the other parts if you're up
against a firm budget.

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 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 Thanks guys, someone pick me up off the floor. I just priced the Intel
 X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH160G2R5 2.5 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid
 State Drive (SSD)
 Rated THE BEST SSD by DRAMeXchange

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined with the 
potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable of never mind what other 
power hungry components are installed.


* Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the end.
* Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
* Read real reviews that stress test.


On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
snip
 You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2

5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).

snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-20 Thread Stan Zaske

You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than adequate for 
most builds and overkill in many cases.



On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote:
Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined 
with the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable of 
never mind what other power hungry components are installed.


* Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the end.
* Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
* Read real reviews that stress test.


On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
snip
 You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2

5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).

snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-20 Thread Anthony Q. Martin


ARe you guys actually checking power draw using a Kill-o-Watt meter?

On 4/20/2010 8:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:
You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than adequate 
for most builds and overkill in many cases.



On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote:
Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined 
with the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable 
of never mind what other power hungry components are installed.


* Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the 
end.

* Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
* Read real reviews that stress test.


On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
snip
 You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2

5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).

snip




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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

By the time my PC parts are listed and ordered this thread is going to
be 10 miles long. LOL.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote:
 ARe you guys actually checking power draw using a Kill-o-Watt meter?

 On 4/20/2010 8:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:

 You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than adequate for
 most builds and overkill in many cases.


 On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote:

 Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined with
 the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable of never mind
 what other power hungry components are installed.

 * Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the end.
 * Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
 * Read real reviews that stress test.


 On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
 snip
  You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2

 5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).

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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-20 Thread Greg Sevart

Agreed that 600w is more than enough unless you're looking at a QC+high end
Xfire/SLI setup. I haven't isolated my individual PC in a while, but my UPS
reports just under 1000 watts pulled for the following:

* Overclocked Core i7 3.7GHz system with 23 drives and a 5770--running at
full CPU load (BOINC) (this system has a 600w PSU BTW)
* X2 3600 system with SSD
* Overclocked C2Q 2.8GHz system with 8 drives, including 4 15k
* Dual 24 LCDs
* Water pump, switch, Logitech Z5500, cable modem, Dish power inserter, and
Dish HD receiver

Plus, a power supply is rated by output, not input, and we're measuring
input. Therefore, you also have to subtract efficiency losses. While there
are a lot of different types of components in that list, assuming a very
good 85% efficient power supply for it all, that would only effectively mean
850 watts--and that's for 3 systems and 2 24 monitors +extras.

Other than that, I completely agree with buying a good unit and checking the
OEM. I even go so far as to verify the brand of capacitors on both the
primary and secondary sides of the PSU. If they're not Rubycon or Nippon
Chemi-Con, I'll pass.

Now, all that being said, I usually do look at 750w units for most
enthusiast-level builds. There are a number of quality 750w units available
right now, including the SeaSonic X750 Gold that was linked earlier.

Greg




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 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:51 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
 
 ARe you guys actually checking power draw using a Kill-o-Watt meter?
 
 On 4/20/2010 8:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:
  You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than adequate
  for most builds and overkill in many cases.
 
 
  On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote:
  Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined
  with the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable
  of never mind what other power hungry components are installed.
 
  * Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the
  end.
  * Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
  * Read real reviews that stress test.
 
 
  On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
  snip
   You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2
  5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).
  snip
 
 
 
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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

I read what you folks are saying, but I keep going back after my
readings and past history with the corsair.

I am trying to understand the major difference here between the TX950W
and the 850HX. I keep going back and forth between those two.

Other than one is listed 100 watts more and does not have modular
connections? I have no way to really measure out my future system but
I do want to make sure I can use it if I ever put, say two 5870 cards
into an i7 system. I probably won't have more than 2 hard drivers in
the system ever.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote:
 Agreed that 600w is more than enough unless you're looking at a QC+high end
 Xfire/SLI setup. I haven't isolated my individual PC in a while, but my UPS
 reports just under 1000 watts pulled for the following:

 * Overclocked Core i7 3.7GHz system with 23 drives and a 5770--running at
 full CPU load (BOINC) (this system has a 600w PSU BTW)
 * X2 3600 system with SSD
 * Overclocked C2Q 2.8GHz system with 8 drives, including 4 15k
 * Dual 24 LCDs
 * Water pump, switch, Logitech Z5500, cable modem, Dish power inserter, and
 Dish HD receiver

 Plus, a power supply is rated by output, not input, and we're measuring
 input. Therefore, you also have to subtract efficiency losses. While there
 are a lot of different types of components in that list, assuming a very
 good 85% efficient power supply for it all, that would only effectively mean
 850 watts--and that's for 3 systems and 2 24 monitors +extras.

 Other than that, I completely agree with buying a good unit and checking the
 OEM. I even go so far as to verify the brand of capacitors on both the
 primary and secondary sides of the PSU. If they're not Rubycon or Nippon
 Chemi-Con, I'll pass.

 Now, all that being said, I usually do look at 750w units for most
 enthusiast-level builds. There are a number of quality 750w units available
 right now, including the SeaSonic X750 Gold that was linked earlier.

 Greg




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 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:51 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

 ARe you guys actually checking power draw using a Kill-o-Watt meter?

 On 4/20/2010 8:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:
  You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than adequate
  for most builds and overkill in many cases.
 
 
  On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote:
  Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined
  with the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable
  of never mind what other power hungry components are installed.
 
  * Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the
  end.
  * Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
  * Read real reviews that stress test.
 
 
  On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
  snip
   You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2
  5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).
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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-20 Thread Winterlight

Well, I am. I run a Q9650 over clocked with 8GB of DDR2, a 4950 and a 
5750, two SSDs four hard drives, two optical, a floppy  eight fans, 
all off a Sesonic 850w PS and it pulls 275 watts most of the time



At 05:51 AM 4/20/2010, you wrote:

ARe you guys actually checking power draw using a Kill-o-Watt meter?

On 4/20/2010 8:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:
You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than 
adequate for most builds and overkill in many cases.



On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote:
Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards 
combined with the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's 
are capable of never mind what other power hungry components are installed.


* Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the end.
* Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
* Read real reviews that stress test.


On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
snip
 You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2

5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).

snip



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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Hey, whatever, save $30 now to spend $180 later. Granted single 12V rail has solved a 
lot of problems but given prices of PSU there is NO advantage to going with under 
850W which leaves headroom for expansion and should mean cooler running/longer lasting.



On 4/20/2010 5:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:

You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than adequate for
most builds and overkill in many cases.


On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote:

Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined
with the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable of
never mind what other power hungry components are installed.

* Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the end.
* Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU
* Read real reviews that stress test.


On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
snip
 You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2

5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended).

snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build


So how many amps @12V do those devices total up to on paper?

What does the KoW measure the load at when running a game? Prime95?

On 4/20/2010 7:30 AM, Winterlight wrote:

Well, I am. I run a Q9650 over clocked with 8GB of DDR2, a 4950 and a
5750, two SSDs four hard drives, two optical, a floppy eight fans, all
off a Sesonic 850w PS and it pulls 275 watts most of the time


At 05:51 AM 4/20/2010, you wrote:

ARe you guys actually checking power draw using a Kill-o-Watt meter?


snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

If you read the reviews for the 3 models: 850TX, 950TX, 850HX you'll find the 950TX  
850HX are same generation technology while the TX850 is older.


HX has modular cables  7 year warranty.



On 4/20/2010 7:06 AM, GPL wrote:

I read what you folks are saying, but I keep going back after my
readings and past history with the corsair.

I am trying to understand the major difference here between the TX950W
and the 850HX. I keep going back and forth between those two.

Other than one is listed 100 watts more and does not have modular
connections? I have no way to really measure out my future system but
I do want to make sure I can use it if I ever put, say two 5870 cards
into an i7 system. I probably won't have more than 2 hard drivers in
the system ever.


snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-20 Thread Winterlight


At 11:05 AM 4/20/2010, you wrote:

So how many amps @12V do those devices total up to on paper?


I don't know, and I would have no idea as to what the overclocking 
effect would be on the components.



What does the KoW measure the load at when running a game? Prime95?


I don't know I rarely play a game but even if it doubled it still would be 550



On 4/20/2010 7:30 AM, Winterlight wrote:

Well, I am. I run a Q9650 over clocked with 8GB of DDR2, a 4950 and a
5750, two SSDs four hard drives, two optical, a floppy eight fans, all
off a Sesonic 850w PS and it pulls 275 watts most of the time


At 05:51 AM 4/20/2010, you wrote:

ARe you guys actually checking power draw using a Kill-o-Watt meter?

snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

With a case (922 HAF), and power supply (850HX) now in the shopping
cart it's time for me to get down to the fun stuff.

Next I'll work on selecting the CPU, MB, and Video Card.

VIDEO CARD: I already know I want an ATI Radeon HD 5870. Down the line
I may crossfire with another but definitly will try a 3 screen
eyefinity setup too. I wish ATI had a BFG for nvidia version of a
company that offered that great warranty. I've been reading reviews on
newegg and tiger and pretty much anything can work. Has anyone any
recommendations for ATI manufacturers? I've mainly done nvidia my last
two PC builds. I've read some negative things on gigabytes customer
service I know that.

CPU: Aye, the Core i7-860, -870, -920, -930, -940, -950 selections.
After reading up on toms, and reviews on tiger and newegg I'm bouncing
around two of these. the i7 930 and i7 950. Anything above the 950 is
way over what I want to spend on a cpu. Even the 950 is pricey. How
much of the performance difference per price point is it really worth
though to go 950 or the 930? It we'll over $250 different for .26 GHZ
difference?! Unless I am over simplifying it. I rarely over clock and
am not really into it right now. What do you guys think?

MOTHERBOARD: I'm open to anything here. Something you can recommend I
can add to my reviews to look over. Has to be able to run crossfire
obviously.

I'll be running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit - but it seems a bit off
from where I can finally pop in that DVD for install.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

The GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
Intel Motherboard looks like a pretty good deal.



On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:52 PM, GPL hardwarelistrea...@gmail.com wrote:
 With a case (922 HAF), and power supply (850HX) now in the shopping
 cart it's time for me to get down to the fun stuff.

 Next I'll work on selecting the CPU, MB, and Video Card.

 VIDEO CARD: I already know I want an ATI Radeon HD 5870. Down the line
 I may crossfire with another but definitly will try a 3 screen
 eyefinity setup too. I wish ATI had a BFG for nvidia version of a
 company that offered that great warranty. I've been reading reviews on
 newegg and tiger and pretty much anything can work. Has anyone any
 recommendations for ATI manufacturers? I've mainly done nvidia my last
 two PC builds. I've read some negative things on gigabytes customer
 service I know that.

 CPU: Aye, the Core i7-860, -870, -920, -930, -940, -950 selections.
 After reading up on toms, and reviews on tiger and newegg I'm bouncing
 around two of these. the i7 930 and i7 950. Anything above the 950 is
 way over what I want to spend on a cpu. Even the 950 is pricey. How
 much of the performance difference per price point is it really worth
 though to go 950 or the 930? It we'll over $250 different for .26 GHZ
 difference?! Unless I am over simplifying it. I rarely over clock and
 am not really into it right now. What do you guys think?

 MOTHERBOARD: I'm open to anything here. Something you can recommend I
 can add to my reviews to look over. Has to be able to run crossfire
 obviously.

 I'll be running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit - but it seems a bit off
 from where I can finally pop in that DVD for install.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-20 Thread Greg Sevart

I'd look at the i7-930. The 260MHz added by the 950 isn't worth more than
double the price. Microcenter has the 930 for $199 if you have one handy.

I just upgraded my system with the Gigabyte X58A-UD5. The UD3R would also be
a good choice. I wanted a few of the extras on the UD5: onboard debug LEDs
and 12+2+2 phase voltage regulation. Neither of these may matter if you
aren't looking to overclock.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:53 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
 
 With a case (922 HAF), and power supply (850HX) now in the shopping
 cart it's time for me to get down to the fun stuff.
 
 Next I'll work on selecting the CPU, MB, and Video Card.
 
 VIDEO CARD: I already know I want an ATI Radeon HD 5870. Down the line
 I may crossfire with another but definitly will try a 3 screen
 eyefinity setup too. I wish ATI had a BFG for nvidia version of a
 company that offered that great warranty. I've been reading reviews on
 newegg and tiger and pretty much anything can work. Has anyone any
 recommendations for ATI manufacturers? I've mainly done nvidia my last
 two PC builds. I've read some negative things on gigabytes customer
 service I know that.
 
 CPU: Aye, the Core i7-860, -870, -920, -930, -940, -950 selections.
 After reading up on toms, and reviews on tiger and newegg I'm bouncing
 around two of these. the i7 930 and i7 950. Anything above the 950 is
 way over what I want to spend on a cpu. Even the 950 is pricey. How
 much of the performance difference per price point is it really worth
 though to go 950 or the 930? It we'll over $250 different for .26 GHZ
 difference?! Unless I am over simplifying it. I rarely over clock and
 am not really into it right now. What do you guys think?
 
 MOTHERBOARD: I'm open to anything here. Something you can recommend I
 can add to my reviews to look over. Has to be able to run crossfire
 obviously.
 
 I'll be running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit - but it seems a bit off
 from where I can finally pop in that DVD for install.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-20 Thread Bryan Seitz

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:24:08PM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
 I'd look at the i7-930. The 260MHz added by the 950 isn't worth more than
 double the price. Microcenter has the 930 for $199 if you have one handy.

Agreed. Also overclocking even though you're not into it, is a simple matter of
changing one field in the BIOS and gaining 300-400Mhz :)

My i920 2.67Ghz runs at 3.4Ghz easy, stock / retail cooling.  

 I just upgraded my system with the Gigabyte X58A-UD5. The UD3R would also be
 a good choice. I wanted a few of the extras on the UD5: onboard debug LEDs
 and 12+2+2 phase voltage regulation. Neither of these may matter if you
 aren't looking to overclock.
 

I prefer ASUS motherboards these days but I hear Gigabyte can be ok too.


-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Bah, Antec, bad company with questionable history  quality that does not own up to 
their mistakes! They could give away their products and I would decline!


On 4/18/2010 3:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

I have that Antec p182. I can route cable behind the mobo with it. It's
a good case, too.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

Good price, nice layout, yet sorely lacking mandatory (IMHO) side  bottom cooling 
fans. My feeling is PSU on bottom design is better for PSU temp  lifespan, a 
detriment for overall case temp especially the card cage area.


On 4/17/2010 10:29 AM, GPL wrote:

At the moment, I seem to be leaning towards the COOLER MASTER HAF 922.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Cooling wise from TT I still recommend the Armor+ VH6000BWS despite the
price. Unlke the MX variant there is tray HDD modules at the bottom that can
be replaced with 12/14cm fans, better than the Element there is a side 24cm
fan *installed*. IMHO the side 24cm fan is not enough alone to keep the
video cards card cage area cool enough, nor do the font 12cm's do a whole
lot either.

snip

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-19 Thread Anthony Q. Martin


Then you'd do so at your own loss.

On 4/19/2010 3:49 AM, maccrawj wrote:
Bah, Antec, bad company with questionable history  quality that does 
not own up to their mistakes! They could give away their products and 
I would decline!


On 4/18/2010 3:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

I have that Antec p182. I can route cable behind the mobo with it. It's
a good case, too.




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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-19 Thread GPL

I've decided on the COOLER MASTER for the case.

Let's talk power supplies. I've run a corsair for some time now and
its been great. What are your recommendations for a a gamer system
that will possible have two video cards in the future, one to start, a
bunch of usb flight and racing controllers, fans, and the typical
peripherals. I rather have more power than not enough. I've always
been a firm believer on having a quality power supply in my machines.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-04-19 Thread Stan Zaske

Yeah, I suppose Cooler Master is the same. Not all of their cases 
support that feature either..



On 4/18/2010 5:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
I have that Antec p182. I can route cable behind the mobo with it. 
It's a good case, too.


On 4/18/2010 2:12 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
The problem with the Antec cases I've seen are the inability to route 
cables behind the mobo for a cleaner look. Cooler Master allows for 
that and I greatly admire everything about my CM690 except the weight.



On 4/18/2010 12:19 PM, GPL wrote:

After some research, e-mail and forum discusions, and chatter over a
few cold ones last evening I believe I will be going with one of the
following:

COOLER MASTER HAF 922, Antec Nine Hundred, or an Antec Three Hundred.

Looking forward towards getting this case dilemna behind me and get
into the fun stuff next, the cpu, video card, and MB.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM,tmse...@rlrnews.com  wrote:
I like the build quality of the haf.  Then again, I'm still using a 
lian li v2000 I've had for almost 5 years now.


That's good advice: a good case will last you though many builds
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From: GPLhardwarelistrea...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:29:26
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

At the moment, I seem to be leaning towards the COOLER MASTER HAF 922.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com  wrote:
Cooling wise from TT I still recommend the Armor+ VH6000BWS 
despite the
price. Unlke the MX variant there is tray HDD modules at the 
bottom that can
be replaced with 12/14cm fans, better than the Element there is a 
side 24cm
fan *installed*. IMHO the side 24cm fan is not enough alone to 
keep the
video cards card cage area cool enough, nor do the font 12cm's do 
a whole

lot either.

The one thing I regret about the generation Armor I bought: lack 
of the
bottom HDD/fan modules. Have considered many times dremeling my 
case to add

them, just too much work ATM.

A con for Armor+ is they a design change from open 11 bays exposed 
to 7+5

system where the bottom 5 bays are rotated sideways into a hdd cage.

Yes it's expensive, has no PSU, etc... but you grab one when 
they're on sale
only because they are well worth it over$100 cases! Surely 
similar great
models exist from Cooler Master and the TT Element does look 
v-good IMHO

also.

Don't skimp on PSU rating or brand, go large  reputable rather than
listening chants of you don't need a700W PSU.


On 4/16/2010 8:21 AM, GPL wrote:
Thanks for the help in the past here. Most recent build was 2007 
where
I started a similar post. You folks were helpful in building a PC 
that
I am still gaming on today, with only a video card upgrade 
between now

and then and that was due to failure after 2.5 years.

This time around I need to start right from the chassis. Previous
build I just re-used a metal Chieftec tower. This time around I 
need a

whole new case because the PC in the Chieftec is going to get wiped
and used for my wife.

Here's a general idea of where the plan stands. A 
gaming/simulation PC

that also does some video editing, mainly family HD recordings or
gaming videos. It will do flight and racing simulations and I 
plan on
doing 3 screens down the line. I've usually done Nvidia cards but 
this

time around I plan on going ATI. I have no allegiance to either card
company but very much want the option to run 3 screens and the ATI
performance will be more than enough for me.

I'm thinking ATI 5870 right now. I'm also thinking Intel i7 930 
to 950

range depending on cost per performance.

FIRST STEP, I need a case!

I don't want anything too fancy. Spending big money on the case 
itself

hurts. However I want something that gives me the room to build, and
if need be later easily crossfire the ATI cards, and have adequate
cooling. I've looked at a few.

MY DILEMNA, I have a small open desk setup to the right of my main
gaming office desk. I fit my Chieftec tower in there with clearance
enough to keep the little keyboard tray to that desk. It fits 3 
towers
with ease. I use it to have my gaming PC, my kids PC, and a 
LAB/DUMMY
PC. That way my legs are free of wires and heat while at the 
gaming PC
desk. Width is no issue but height may be. It seems my Chieftec 
tower

(WITH OUT FEET INSTALLED) stands at 20.5 inches.

I can always remove that desk's keyboard tray, but I like it for
neatness and my little kids have it at a good height but would 
prefer

to keep it.

Few full tower cases I've looked at:

Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case HEIGHT: 21.5 inches
Thermaltake Element V VL20001W2Z HEIGHT 21 inches

Few mid tower cases I've looked at:
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case HEIGHT:
19.5 inches (It fits!)
COOLER MASTER CM690 II Advanced Black Steel body HEIGHT:  20.10 
(It fits!)


SO, the mid towers fit, the full towers are a tad too tall. Can 
anyone
recommend another good gaming tower I can look

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

LOL, no I do so to avoid further loss from dealing with them as I am already out a 
fair bit of coin.




On 4/19/2010 4:01 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Then you'd do so at your own loss.

On 4/19/2010 3:49 AM, maccrawj wrote:

Bah, Antec, bad company with questionable history  quality that does
not own up to their mistakes! They could give away their products and
I would decline!

On 4/18/2010 3:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

I have that Antec p182. I can route cable behind the mobo with it. It's
a good case, too.

Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build