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On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Bobby Heid wrote: I wanted to thank everyone for all of their inputs. We have an older rear-projection 52 that I was wanting to replace. The wife was balking at the $1800-1900 prices I was wanting to get (the 52 Sony Bravia or 52 Samsung 650). She was pushing for a 46 model to save a few dollars. Anyway, I came across the SAMSUNG LN52A630 at Frys for $1500 + free shipping. It turns out the 630 has a more matte screen which will work out well with my window/TV placement. http://shop3.frys.com/product/5748772;jsessionid=tkXINGh1ff4LnXVt444JXQ**.no de3?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Make sure when it is delivered that they have 2 people carrying it. Had a customer of ours accept a delivery of a PC we sold them for their meeting room (instead of a projector) and the UPS guy carried it in on his own and damaged the TV. The second TV we had delivered we took a $30 white glove option. Had 2 guys in a truck come. They carried it where it was going, unboxed it, allowed him to inspect it and they removed all the packing materials. Definately worth it on a $1500 purchase. Christopher Fisk -- [Peter is talking in his sleep] Peter Griffin: Oh, Jenny... ooh, Jenny, Ooh, Jenny don't stop... Oh, Richard Jeni, your HBO comedy specials have brought laughter to millions. And what a sweet ass. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: Make sure when it is delivered that they have 2 people carrying it. Had a customer of ours accept a delivery of a PC we sold them for their meeting room (instead of a projector) and the UPS guy carried it in on his own and damaged the TV. Typo above... PC should be TV Christopher Fisk -- Homer/Apu/Moe: You can do it, Otto! You can do it, Otto! Apu:Make this spare, I'll give you free gelato! Moe:Then go back to my place where I will get you blotto! Homer: Domo arigato, Mister Roboto! Team Homer -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [H] New TV.
I wanted to thank everyone for all of their inputs. We have an older rear-projection 52 that I was wanting to replace. The wife was balking at the $1800-1900 prices I was wanting to get (the 52 Sony Bravia or 52 Samsung 650). She was pushing for a 46 model to save a few dollars. Anyway, I came across the SAMSUNG LN52A630 at Frys for $1500 + free shipping. It turns out the 630 has a more matte screen which will work out well with my window/TV placement. http://shop3.frys.com/product/5748772;jsessionid=tkXINGh1ff4LnXVt444JXQ**.no de3?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Thanks, Bobby
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Dude... Good deal! I specifically when after the 67-inch because I have a big room and sit a good ways from the TV... but this set rocks...i've been using my for HD broadcasts and blu-ray via HDMIjust totally off-the-wall lovely. I was coming at this from a Sony 53 inch XBR and this tv just blows it clean out of the water. I wasn't really planning to buy a TV but like you, mine when out unexpectedly. I got cheap HDMI cables that do a really good job too for only $4/cable at monoprice.com. I also got a new Onkyo receiver that lets me output all sources over HDMI... With Blu-ray you get movies at 1080p/24 with lossless audio...both are simply spectacular. The jump from what I had to this for what I paid is totally amazing...I bought my Sony XBR some 9 years ago and dropped what I thought was huge coin...I was too happy to get one of these at way less than what I paid them. Honestly, I can't get enough of watching this TV with Blu-ray. I wish I had gotten one of the newer BD players that have wireless built in. Some even let you download movies from netflix and music from pandora over a wireless connection... Bino Gopal wrote: Ok, so since my Sony WEGA 36XBR400 died a few weeks ago [36 Direct-view flat-screen CRT] I've been in the market for a new TV (it had the BEST picture but just wasn't big enough, so it was kind of a blessing in disguise) I'd discounted plasma, but then reading enough stuff online and on avsforum specifically was interested in the Pioneer Kuro Plasma line (and Elites specifically); but then they stopped making them and might even be going out of business so I reluctantly am not looking at them (the new Panasonic Elite equivalent line might be worth looking at the in future). Front projectors are cool but wasn't sure it would work with my light issues due to huge windows. So then I read some more reviews and most people were discounting LCDs due to lack of adequate performance on fast motion and overbrightness So that left the DLPs. And then Samsung came out with the LED DLPs that got rave reviews last year and the bulbs weren't supposed to need replacing...reviews are pretty good as per the links already sent and prices are even coming down. I looked at the 61 and 67 at Best Buy and they were like $1900 and $2500 respectively... I got lucky and got a floor model of the 61 for $950 and only $200 for the 4yr plan (which is what got me the price that low) and a Samsung floor model stand for the tv $90...so great deal all-around, though prices for it on Amazon have come down A LOT (it's $1450 now, though I saw it at $1200 a few weeks ago), and their white-glove delivery is supposed to rock. I got the 61 b/c it was going to cost me like $1900 for floor model 67 and I was like 2x for 6 more?! Nah! And I have to say the picture is pretty amazing, and it's HUUGE when you get it home; much bigger than it seems in the store! Been watching only with component and HD looks pretty amazing (though it depends on your source; crap in=crap out); still need to get HDMI cables and try those and test with a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player, which should look even better! And final note about the TV; it doesn't have a reflective screen; it's matte, so it is AWESOME; my previous tv had tons of reflection issues with our big windows that face to the west (tv faces north) and we had to close the blinds all the time; now we can open them and you can hardly even tell it's open and it's totally watchable and you can hardly even tell! It's really possibly the best feature of the tv for me; something I didn't even realize! Ok, that's my quick thoughts for now; I definitely can recommend the TV; if you see a floor model of the 61 at a Best Buy you should be able to talk them down to the price I got, and for $1k for a 61 screen that looks great in HD...you can't beat that! GL! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:57 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I really don't care if they come back or not.as long as my lovely 67-inch LED DLP keeps working 'til it dies...for the price I paid...others can pay the premium price for competing tech. John R Steinbruner wrote: Yeah I read that. DLP's were almost dead, down to 2-3 manufacturers out there this last year and now with the LED backlights might be coming back to compete as well. :) On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:28 AM, mark.dodge wrote: And now with LED light source DLP beats out plasmas for size and action picture quality, and I saw a blue ray DVD of the fifth element side by side with a plasma (vizio 50) and a mitsu 57 dlp and went with the dlp.
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Ok, so since my Sony WEGA 36XBR400 died a few weeks ago [36 Direct-view flat-screen CRT] I've been in the market for a new TV (it had the BEST picture but just wasn't big enough, so it was kind of a blessing in disguise) I'd discounted plasma, but then reading enough stuff online and on avsforum specifically was interested in the Pioneer Kuro Plasma line (and Elites specifically); but then they stopped making them and might even be going out of business so I reluctantly am not looking at them (the new Panasonic Elite equivalent line might be worth looking at the in future). Front projectors are cool but wasn't sure it would work with my light issues due to huge windows. So then I read some more reviews and most people were discounting LCDs due to lack of adequate performance on fast motion and overbrightness So that left the DLPs. And then Samsung came out with the LED DLPs that got rave reviews last year and the bulbs weren't supposed to need replacing...reviews are pretty good as per the links already sent and prices are even coming down. I looked at the 61 and 67 at Best Buy and they were like $1900 and $2500 respectively... I got lucky and got a floor model of the 61 for $950 and only $200 for the 4yr plan (which is what got me the price that low) and a Samsung floor model stand for the tv $90...so great deal all-around, though prices for it on Amazon have come down A LOT (it's $1450 now, though I saw it at $1200 a few weeks ago), and their white-glove delivery is supposed to rock. I got the 61 b/c it was going to cost me like $1900 for floor model 67 and I was like 2x for 6 more?! Nah! And I have to say the picture is pretty amazing, and it's HUUGE when you get it home; much bigger than it seems in the store! Been watching only with component and HD looks pretty amazing (though it depends on your source; crap in=crap out); still need to get HDMI cables and try those and test with a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player, which should look even better! And final note about the TV; it doesn't have a reflective screen; it's matte, so it is AWESOME; my previous tv had tons of reflection issues with our big windows that face to the west (tv faces north) and we had to close the blinds all the time; now we can open them and you can hardly even tell it's open and it's totally watchable and you can hardly even tell! It's really possibly the best feature of the tv for me; something I didn't even realize! Ok, that's my quick thoughts for now; I definitely can recommend the TV; if you see a floor model of the 61 at a Best Buy you should be able to talk them down to the price I got, and for $1k for a 61 screen that looks great in HD...you can't beat that! GL! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:57 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I really don't care if they come back or not.as long as my lovely 67-inch LED DLP keeps working 'til it dies...for the price I paid...others can pay the premium price for competing tech. John R Steinbruner wrote: Yeah I read that. DLP's were almost dead, down to 2-3 manufacturers out there this last year and now with the LED backlights might be coming back to compete as well. :) On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:28 AM, mark.dodge wrote: And now with LED light source DLP beats out plasmas for size and action picture quality, and I saw a blue ray DVD of the fifth element side by side with a plasma (vizio 50) and a mitsu 57 dlp and went with the dlp.
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Problem with that is Samsung came out with the LED DLPs last year but didn't release new models this year...why is that? Most speculate that it's b/c they're no longer going to make them. Almost everyone is switching to LCD b/c it's MUCH cheaper to make (it's why Pioneer had to get out of plasma) even if it's not quite as good yet...Mitsubishi had the Laserviews but those weren't put into real production and had TONS of issues, so I've heard they're dead. So get the LED DLPs while they're still available b/c I think DLPs are going away and we'll be left with a few plasmas and mostly all LCDs to pick from! FWIW. BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of John R Steinbruner Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:22 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Yeah I read that. DLP's were almost dead, down to 2-3 manufacturers out there this last year and now with the LED backlights might be coming back to compete as well. :) On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:28 AM, mark.dodge wrote: And now with LED light source DLP beats out plasmas for size and action picture quality, and I saw a blue ray DVD of the fifth element side by side with a plasma (vizio 50) and a mitsu 57 dlp and went with the dlp. -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
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From: Anthony Q. Martin I really don't care if they come back or not.as long as my lovely 67-inch LED DLP keeps working 'til it dies... I'd be willing to bet it will... VBG Rick Glazier
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Safe bet, huh? :) Rick Glazier wrote: From: Anthony Q. Martin I really don't care if they come back or not.as long as my lovely 67-inch LED DLP keeps working 'til it dies... I'd be willing to bet it will... VBG Rick Glazier
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And now with LED light source DLP beats out plasmas for size and action picture quality, and I saw a blue ray DVD of the fifth element side by side with a plasma (vizio 50) and a mitsu 57 dlp and went with the dlp. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 22:04 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute best bang for the buck: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s _c=site_search It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too. Bobby Heid wrote: What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Yeah I read that. DLP's were almost dead, down to 2-3 manufacturers out there this last year and now with the LED backlights might be coming back to compete as well. :) On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:28 AM, mark.dodge wrote: And now with LED light source DLP beats out plasmas for size and action picture quality, and I saw a blue ray DVD of the fifth element side by side with a plasma (vizio 50) and a mitsu 57 dlp and went with the dlp. -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
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I really don't care if they come back or not.as long as my lovely 67-inch LED DLP keeps working 'til it dies...for the price I paid...others can pay the premium price for competing tech. John R Steinbruner wrote: Yeah I read that. DLP's were almost dead, down to 2-3 manufacturers out there this last year and now with the LED backlights might be coming back to compete as well. :) On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:28 AM, mark.dodge wrote: And now with LED light source DLP beats out plasmas for size and action picture quality, and I saw a blue ray DVD of the fifth element side by side with a plasma (vizio 50) and a mitsu 57 dlp and went with the dlp.
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http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921.html?tag=mncol;rnav http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute best bang for the buck: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s_c=site_search It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too. Bobby Heid wrote: What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Thanks for the links. Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:11 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921 .html?tag=mncol;rnav http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute best bang for the buck: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s _c=site_search It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too. Bobby Heid wrote: What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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At the rate home theater shops near me are folding up you can grab some deals though. A leasing company we work with let their people have 52 lcds for $800 last week. Damn, I wished I had grabbed a stack. I'd avoid plasma like the plague and look for deals. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Veech ve...@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:25:41 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Yepand it's just like the old monitors in that case.the TV people would have advised him regarding that. You can bet it took a long time to do that and leaving the image on the TV for many hours at a time. It's like if you leave channels like Sc-Fi or USA that have their logos on most of the time and run the TV 24 hours a day, it will burn in over a period of timesame with running X-Box, or other games, with the same game for days at a time. Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Veech, What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference to them? Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Mine's on that CNet 'best of' list. :) Samsung PN50A550 50-inch plasma TV, and I recommend it highly. Love it, and have never seen any burn-in on mine, and I use it for Xbox and TV, including sports with the score thingies on the screen for a long time. The new generations seem much better at avoiding that stuff. Mine has a pixel shift mode that helps, as well an all white screen you can use if you see any burn-in. http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 On Mar 13, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/samsung-hl61a750/4505-6484_7-32915921.html?tag=mncol;rnav http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=nav;component.0 -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] New TV.
Avia is the one I used. The eighth post on this page has a great little self-help how-to for plasma calibration: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7913037 - Original Message - From: Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:34 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Veech, What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference to them? Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech - Original Message - From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 09:15 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. At 07:42 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. I know a guy who bought a Samsung Plasma for Xmas, and he is really pissed that he has burn in from his kids playing games on their xbox. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] New TV.
Veech, ThanksI'll spend some time on it. Right now, to be honest, it's way over my head. Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Avia is the one I used. The eighth post on this page has a great little self-help how-to for plasma calibration: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7913037 - Original Message - From: Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:34 Subject: Re: [H] New TV. Veech, What are these DVD's you are talking about and can you give me a reference to them? Jeff Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. yeah that's a problem, don't play games on a plasma for more than 30 - 45 minutes. Any static image such as a HUD will leave a ghost. I have a Pioneer 50 plasma, bought it maybe 7 years ago and it still rocks. Good part is the viewing angle, we've had as many as 12 people spread out over our couch watching the thing. Bad is the glare or reflection especially during the day. Also it is certainly not eco-friendly, the thing throws off heat like you wouldn't believe, you can feel heat radiating from the screen up to 6 away. But a little LC and a plasma will last a long time. Get one of the specialized settings adjustments DVDs since they tend to be set hot' from the factory, too much color saturation which will prematurely wash out the image. Veech
[H] New TV.
What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] New TV.
It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] New TV.
I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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I have just been looking at the Samsungs. Specifically the LN52A650. Personally, I could easily go for the LN52A750, but I don't think I can get it past the wife. Especially since I just spent approx $1800 on building me a new pc. LOL. Thanks for the reply. Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:48 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] New TV.
What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Don't really know what your parameters are, but this is the absolute best bang for the buck: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/458892796/samsung-hl67a750?s_c=site_search It won't hang on a wall, though. There is a 61-inch version too. Bobby Heid wrote: What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch-1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
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Ours has a white setting to almost eliminate burnin. They give you lots of ways to get around it. Decent manual and online help. You can get a 1080p for 11-1200 bucks, or a 720p, which we have, in the 7-800 bracket. A little shopping and maybe you can trim some off of that and sell the wife on it. They have HDMI, DVI, composite, coax, and optical inputs, and some other stuff. We have Dish Network and a VIP722 DVR HiDef tuner, Phillips DVD, and a digital Yamaha sound system which all couple up very well. I'm trying to figure out how to set up a wireless connection from my PC and wife's laptop without spending an arm and a leg. Jeff - Original Message - From: Bobby Heid bh...@sc.rr.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. What about possible burn-in? I really don;t know too much about the plasmas, other than the viewing angles being better. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lane Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New TV. I agree about the Samsung as a brand. We have 50 plasma really like it. Excellent quality and the viewing area is far greater than LCD. Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] New TV. It's a nice enough set. Most debate in the LCD HDTV community is between Sony and Samsung. It's a little above your price range, but I think it's hard to beat the Samsung LN52A750. I did very extensive research before buying that exact model; upon seeing it, a colleague bought one as well. I've had it since September, and I STILL find myself in awe of its PQ. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:22 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New TV. What do you all think about this TV? Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-52W4100-52-Inch- 1080p/dp/B0017Q8B70/re f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1236907268sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/cppa28 Any other suggestions for 52 and $1500-$1800? Thanks, Bobby
