Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread j maccraw
I hear ya, was just saying I don't like that
particular change. Both are great cases 
and their not Antec which mean I don't cut of my nose
to spite my face. =)

Entire height of case as 5.25" bays was an idea I
liked at lot starting with CM's 
Stacker series.

James Maki wrote:
> I guess I understand your commens, but I am running
2 optical drives and 4
> SATA drives in removeable enclosures, a floppy
drive, and then 4 more SATA
> drives internally. I could add 4 more internal
drives before the space in
> maxed out. Remove the floppy (only used for F6
installation of drivers), and
> I have another external bay available. The icydock
takes up 3 bays of 7
> total, leaving you with 4 external and 7 internal.
That's a lot of storage
> space. I find it more than sufficient. Of course,
YMMV.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: j maccraw
> 
>> If only they had not screwed with the Armor's
11-bays to make 
>> the plus I'd have considered it. 


  

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Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread James Maki
I guess I understand your commens, but I am running 2 optical drives and 4
SATA drives in removeable enclosures, a floppy drive, and then 4 more SATA
drives internally. I could add 4 more internal drives before the space in
maxed out. Remove the floppy (only used for F6 installation of drivers), and
I have another external bay available. The icydock takes up 3 bays of 7
total, leaving you with 4 external and 7 internal. That's a lot of storage
space. I find it more than sufficient. Of course, YMMV.

Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



> -Original Message-
> From: j maccraw

> 
> If only they had not screwed with the Armor's 11-bays to make 
> the plus I'd have considered it. I was very purposeful it 
> wanting all 5.25" bays so *I* could choose how I want to 
> utilize my space. Like knowing I could put something like 
> this in later without running out of 5.25" bays for other devices.
> 
> http://www.icydock.com/product/images/MB455SPF-kit-lowres.jpg
> 
> 
> James Maki wrote:
> > I went with the Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+)
> VH6000BWS
> >
> 



Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread Al

j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> http://www.icydock.com/product/images/MB455SPF-kit-lowres.jpg

Very nice. I've found three versions, it seems:

From their website:
1) http://www.icydock.com/product/images/MB455-back-large.jpg

and some pics from vendor websites:

2) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/images/products/MB455_04.jpg
Can't see much of this one.

3) http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-59368419805889_1996_28468677
This one looks like two drives are powered by 4 pin molex connectors
(mis-spelled "prots") and three are by sATA power cables. This design
looks like better air flow too.

We'll just have to see...

Best,
Al



Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread j maccraw
If only they had not screwed with the Armor's 11-bays
to make the plus I'd have 
considered it. I was very purposeful it wanting all
5.25" bays so *I* could choose 
how I want to utilize my space. Like knowing I could
put something like this in later 
without running out of 5.25" bays for other devices.

http://www.icydock.com/product/images/MB455SPF-kit-lowres.jpg


James Maki wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joe User
> 
>>
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor/va8000bws.a
>>> sp
>>
>> OK thats a sweet chassis
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>  joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>>
> 
> I went with the Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+)
VH6000BWS
>

> when it was available with free shipping from newegg
(which is good because
> it weighs a ton). I have been extremely happy with
the case. It is big
> (roomy) and heavy (solid construction), but if you
are looking for a full
> sized tower, check it out. It dropped my idle temp
by 3 degrees, has room
> for 7 internal 3.5 inch druves and 7 external
3.5/5.5" drives. Front panel
> firewire, USB and eSata. Best big case I have ever
used (and the most
> expensive). Not for LAN parties!
> 
> Jim Maki
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 


  

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Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread Bobby Heid
I just bought one of these for $70 after MIR.  I have not used it yet, but
looks great and has lots of cooling features.


Bobby


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe User
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:13 AM
To: Al
Subject: Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

Hello Al,


Nice. I am still partial to mine... nice and cool. Room. Pretty.

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15900

Cheaper!




Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread Al

"James Maki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor/va8000bws.a

> I went with the Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS
> 

They are very nice. Can't see ever buying a case with a door(s) again.
And I find these doors rather yonical in appearance. 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/yonic
Also, I don't care for the top of it.  But these are just personal taste
issues. Looks like a very well ventilated case. 

Nothing I've found is as nicely
finished inside as the Ultra m998 Mid Tower .

Regards,
Al


Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread James Maki
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe User

> http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor/va8000bws.a
> > sp
> 
> 
> OK thats a sweet chassis
> 
> 
> --
> Regards,
>  joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> 

I went with the Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS

when it was available with free shipping from newegg (which is good because
it weighs a ton). I have been extremely happy with the case. It is big
(roomy) and heavy (solid construction), but if you are looking for a full
sized tower, check it out. It dropped my idle temp by 3 degrees, has room
for 7 internal 3.5 inch druves and 7 external 3.5/5.5" drives. Front panel
firewire, USB and eSata. Best big case I have ever used (and the most
expensive). Not for LAN parties!

Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread Al

Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nice. I am still partial to mine... nice and cool. Room. Pretty.
> 
> http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15900

A top fan makes more sense if the power supply is at the bottom. Since
the PS is obtaining it's air from that space, why would one want to
increase low air pressure in it's area?

The drive cage(s) are a nice setup. Not being tooless isn't a problem
for me. Most tooless setups feel flimsily to me, especially PCI card area.
> 
> Cheaper!

Cheaper is nice. ;-)

Al


Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-19 Thread Al

j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just built a new system in one of these, very
> recommended 

What did you think of the PowerBar? Hype, or useful?
How much room is under the Bar? I want to mod it to add every power wire,
24 pin ATX, sATA, etc.

Al



Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-18 Thread Joe User
Hello j,

Friday, April 18, 2008, 10:28:21 PM, you wrote:

> Just built a new system in one of these, very
> recommended as would be the Cosmo from 
> Coolermaster:

> http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor/va8000bws.asp


OK thats a sweet chassis


-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-18 Thread Joe User
Hello Al,

Friday, April 18, 2008, 5:02:39 PM, you wrote:


> I've been looking at getting some new cases. Came across this one and
> liked it. Thought I'd share:

> http://www.pro-clockers.com/review.php?id=276&page=1

> Nice finish inside and out. Lots of room for a mid size. No POS power
> supply to deal with. Oh and wheels  :-)

> From the review:
> The Power Bar power distribution system eliminates cable clutter inside
> your case by giving you easy access to 4-pin peripheral and 8-pin PCI-e
> power connectors in a more convenient location.

> A little expensive but I think worth it.

> Regards,
> Al


Nice. I am still partial to mine... nice and cool. Room. Pretty.

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15900

Cheaper!


-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-18 Thread j maccraw
Just built a new system in one of these, very
recommended as would be the Cosmo from 
Coolermaster:

http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor/va8000bws.asp


Al wrote:
> DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Will re-read the review a few times to make sure it
may support an
>> old full-size ATX m/b
> 
> Very roomy case.
> Here's another (better?) review:
> http://www.modders-inc.com/reviews-story--182.html
> 
> regards,
> Al
> 
> 


  

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Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-18 Thread Al

DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Will re-read the review a few times to make sure it may support an
> old full-size ATX m/b

Very roomy case.
Here's another (better?) review:
http://www.modders-inc.com/reviews-story--182.html

regards,
Al


Re: [H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-18 Thread DHSinclair

Thanks Al,
Looking for something to replace a very old, heavy, In-Win Tower.
Will re-read the review a few times to make sure it may support an
old full-size ATX m/b... :)
Like the wheels!
Best,
Duncan

At 19:02 04/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:


I've been looking at getting some new cases. Came across this one and
liked it. Thought I'd share:

http://www.pro-clockers.com/review.php?id=276&page=1

Nice finish inside and out. Lots of room for a mid size. No POS power
supply to deal with. Oh and wheels  :-)

From the review:
The Power Bar power distribution system eliminates cable clutter inside
your case by giving you easy access to 4-pin peripheral and 8-pin PCI-e
power connectors in a more convenient location.

A little expensive but I think worth it.

Regards,
Al




[H] Nice Case Mid Size Tower

2008-04-18 Thread Al

I've been looking at getting some new cases. Came across this one and
liked it. Thought I'd share:

http://www.pro-clockers.com/review.php?id=276&page=1

Nice finish inside and out. Lots of room for a mid size. No POS power
supply to deal with. Oh and wheels  :-)

From the review:
The Power Bar power distribution system eliminates cable clutter inside
your case by giving you easy access to 4-pin peripheral and 8-pin PCI-e
power connectors in a more convenient location.

A little expensive but I think worth it.

Regards,
Al