RE: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-09 Thread Greg Sevart
Software such as RMClock may get around that...

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> What I had seen online, though, is that most desktop MB's don't support
> the signaling to make the chip run at full speed (Speedstep) so even
> though you may have a 3ghz chip, it's going to run at 1ghz or whatever
> it's clocked down to by default.
> 
> It may just not be worth using. :(
> 
> Greg Sevart wrote:
> > The reason I asked about the P4-M vs P-M is because they do not use the
same
> > socket. P4-M uses s478, whereas P-M uses s479. From what I can tell, you
> > -should- be able to drop a P4-M into any Socket 478 motherboard...which
can
> > be had for cheap anymore.
> >
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> >> This is just going to be for a media server in my house. I was hoping a
> >> $50 board was out there for it.
> >>
> >> I have plenty of RAM at my disposal. I only really wanted to buy a
board
> >> and a case.
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> >>>> Aopen makes one but its rather spendy
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Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-09 Thread Ben Ruset
What I had seen online, though, is that most desktop MB's don't support 
the signaling to make the chip run at full speed (Speedstep) so even 
though you may have a 3ghz chip, it's going to run at 1ghz or whatever 
it's clocked down to by default.


It may just not be worth using. :(

Greg Sevart wrote:

The reason I asked about the P4-M vs P-M is because they do not use the same
socket. P4-M uses s478, whereas P-M uses s479. From what I can tell, you
-should- be able to drop a P4-M into any Socket 478 motherboard...which can
be had for cheap anymore.


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This is just going to be for a media server in my house. I was hoping a
$50 board was out there for it.

I have plenty of RAM at my disposal. I only really wanted to buy a board
and a case.

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Aopen makes one but its rather spendy







RE: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-09 Thread Greg Sevart
The reason I asked about the P4-M vs P-M is because they do not use the same
socket. P4-M uses s478, whereas P-M uses s479. From what I can tell, you
-should- be able to drop a P4-M into any Socket 478 motherboard...which can
be had for cheap anymore.

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> 
> This is just going to be for a media server in my house. I was hoping a
> $50 board was out there for it.
> 
> I have plenty of RAM at my disposal. I only really wanted to buy a board
> and a case.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Subject: Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard
> >
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> >> Aopen makes one but its rather spendy
> >>
> >




Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-09 Thread Ben Ruset
This is just going to be for a media server in my house. I was hoping a 
$50 board was out there for it.


I have plenty of RAM at my disposal. I only really wanted to buy a board 
and a case.


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Aopen makes one but its rather spendy



Are you thinking you can save by using an older CPU which requires an 
older motherboard with an AGP video slot and DDR or PC 133 RAM? You 
could have a couple of years ago when I sold Celeron CPU's for around 
$120.00 and P4 CPU's for $220.00 and up. Now the Celerons have been 
discontinued and the P4' (if there are any left at my supplier) and the 
Pentium D's (Dual Core) have been reduced to only around $120.00. This 
means it is to your advantage to bypass that Pentium M and get a Pentium 
D and a motherboard with a PCIe video slot and slots for DDR2 RAM. Why 
bend over backwards and go with all old technology to save $120.00 on a 
CPU that gives you a lots slower older CPU??


For a few years after Windows XP came out, people wanted older and out 
of date computers to run their older software. Many had their new 
computers built with older technology to accommodate their older 
software. Your progression should be led by advances in hardware and the 
CPU takes the lead. Motherboards and everything else is built around the 
CPU.


Chuck



Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-08 Thread tmservo
No i$ saying a motherboard that has a street cost of 279 to support a socket 
479 pentium m is spendy

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> Aopen makes one but its rather spendy
>

Are you thinking you can save by using an older CPU which requires an older 
motherboard with an AGP video slot and DDR or PC 133 RAM? You could have a 
couple of years ago when I sold Celeron CPU's for around $120.00 and P4 
CPU's for $220.00 and up. Now the Celerons have been discontinued and the 
P4' (if there are any left at my supplier) and the Pentium D's (Dual Core) 
have been reduced to only around $120.00. This means it is to your advantage 
to bypass that Pentium M and get a Pentium D and a motherboard with a PCIe 
video slot and slots for DDR2 RAM. Why bend over backwards and go with all 
old technology to save $120.00 on a CPU that gives you a lots slower older 
CPU??

For a few years after Windows XP came out, people wanted older and out of 
date computers to run their older software. Many had their new computers 
built with older technology to accommodate their older software. Your 
progression should be led by advances in hardware and the CPU takes the 
lead. Motherboards and everything else is built around the CPU.

Chuck 




Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-08 Thread chuck


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Aopen makes one but its rather spendy



Are you thinking you can save by using an older CPU which requires an older 
motherboard with an AGP video slot and DDR or PC 133 RAM? You could have a 
couple of years ago when I sold Celeron CPU's for around $120.00 and P4 
CPU's for $220.00 and up. Now the Celerons have been discontinued and the 
P4' (if there are any left at my supplier) and the Pentium D's (Dual Core) 
have been reduced to only around $120.00. This means it is to your advantage 
to bypass that Pentium M and get a Pentium D and a motherboard with a PCIe 
video slot and slots for DDR2 RAM. Why bend over backwards and go with all 
old technology to save $120.00 on a CPU that gives you a lots slower older 
CPU??


For a few years after Windows XP came out, people wanted older and out of 
date computers to run their older software. Many had their new computers 
built with older technology to accommodate their older software. Your 
progression should be led by advances in hardware and the CPU takes the 
lead. Motherboards and everything else is built around the CPU.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-08 Thread Raul Limos

On 1/8/07, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M
processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like
to use it in some sort of desktop system.



http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/12/24/quick_and_quiet/
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/dfi-855gme-mgf/index.x?pg=1
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=pm915&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1


Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-07 Thread lopaka
One of my servers is a 2 gig pentium-M using the AOpen i915GMm-HFS. Rock 
solid and stable with pretty good TV-output too.


lopaka
Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M 
processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would 
like to use it in some sort of desktop system.






Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-07 Thread Ben Ruset

Yes, sorry.

Greg Sevart wrote:

I think you mean Pentium 4-M...there are no P-M's at 3.06GHz.

Greg


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Subject: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M
processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like
to use it in some sort of desktop system.






Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-07 Thread tmservo
Aopen makes one but its rather spendy

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Subject: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M 
processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like 
to use it in some sort of desktop system.



RE: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-07 Thread Greg Sevart
I think you mean Pentium 4-M...there are no P-M's at 3.06GHz.

Greg

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> 
> Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M
> processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like
> to use it in some sort of desktop system.




[H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-07 Thread Ben Ruset
Anybody know of a desktop motherboard that will accept a Pentium-M 
processor? I yanked a 3.06ghz Pentium-M from a dead Dell and would like 
to use it in some sort of desktop system.