[H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
I just wanted to thank you personally for this post. It is another of the long list of the "stay away from Vista" articles that have put me off Vista for at least another year. I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason the Japanese have been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they just keep improving what already works, instead of reinventing all over again. On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:00:11 GMT Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I got this down the Apple pipeline, worth a read. Debate encouraged! > I am still debating selling Vista. Don't ask me about the date (3.12?) > > > Dim Vista > Stephen Manes 03.12.07 > > > Windows Vista: more than five years in the making, more than 50 million > lines of code. The result? A vista slightly more inspiring than the one over > the town dump. The new slogan is: "The 'Wow' Starts Now," and Microsoft > touts new features, many filched shamelessly from Apple's Macintosh. But as > with every previous version, there's no wow here, not even in ironic quotes. > Vista is at best mildly annoying and at worst makes you want to rush to > Redmond, Washington and rip somebody's liver out. > > Vista is a fading theme park with a few new rides, lots of patched-up old > ones and bored kids in desperate need of adult supervision running things. > If I can find plenty of problems in a matter of hours, why can't Microsoft ? > Most likely answer: It did--and it doesn't care. -- C L Shaw <>< <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Today is a moment for you to clip yet another strand from the rope of earth, so that when he returns you won't be tied up.
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
I sure wish Apple would sell OSX for PC's. We know they could do it. I think it would be a gold mine for them.. :) >>I just wanted to thank you personally for this post. It is another of the >>long list >>of the "stay away from Vista" articles that have put me off Vista for at >>least another year. >> >>I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason the >>Japanese have >>been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they just keep >>improving what >>already works, instead of reinventing all over again. >> >>On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:00:11 GMT >>Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I got this down the Apple pipeline, worth a read. Debate encouraged! >>> I am still debating selling Vista. Don't ask me about the date (3.12?) >>> >>> >>> Dim Vista >>> Stephen Manes 03.12.07 >>> >>> >>> Windows Vista: more than five years in the making, more than 50 million >>> lines of code. The result? A vista slightly more inspiring than the one over >>> the town dump. The new slogan is: "The 'Wow' Starts Now," and Microsoft >>> touts new features, many filched shamelessly from Apple's Macintosh. But as >>> with every previous version, there's no wow here, not even in ironic quotes. >>> Vista is at best mildly annoying and at worst makes you want to rush to >>> Redmond, Washington and rip somebody's liver out. >>> >>> Vista is a fading theme park with a few new rides, lots of patched-up old >>> ones and bored kids in desperate need of adult supervision running things. >>> If I can find plenty of problems in a matter of hours, why can't Microsoft ? >>> Most likely answer: It did--and it doesn't care. >> >> -- JRS<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
> I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason the > Japanese have > been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they just keep > improving what > already works, instead of reinventing all over again. I suppose at some point the OS source code would get so convoluted from all the patches that you're better off starting from scratch. Gary VanderMolen
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
- Original Message - From: "Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side) I suppose at some point the OS source code would get so convoluted from all the patches that you're better off starting from scratch. Not if Microsoft simply slipstreamed a comprehensive XP Service Pack 3 into a DVD that allowed you to install any version of Windows XP that you had a legal Product Key for. They could sell those DVD's for around twenty bucks (including shipping). At the outset, a selection screen would appear that listed all versions of Windows XP on the DVD. It would have a place to enter your Product Key. If you had selected the wrong version, it would tell you. Better yet, it could select the correct version from the Product Key you entered. Far too simple, right! Not near as much profit to be made as will be with Vista. A yearly auxillary DVD containing all popular drives up to that date would be handy, also. It could be shipped along with the SP 3 DVD. Chuck
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
First time I heard those types of rumors was with Win95... A big "free"patch CD... The only time I remember it happening was when they screwed up Office97 so bad (before anybody had broadband) that the patches were so big it turned it into a free re-release on a CD and they even had to give you new serial number/install keys... (I got a bunch of them.) From the looks of it, SP3 for XP will be a last minute warmed-over POS that drives people towaeds Vista even more... Rick Glazier From: Gary VanderMolen: I suppose at some point the OS source code would get so convoluted from all the patches that you're better off starting from scratch. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not if Microsoft simply slipstreamed a comprehensive XP Service Pack 3 into a DVD that allowed you to install any version of Windows XP that you had a legal Product Key for. They could sell those DVD's for around twenty bucks (including shipping).
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
At 02:20 PM 03/03/2007, Chris Shaw wrote: I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason the Japanese have been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they just keep improving what already works, instead of reinventing all over again. Isn't that that Vista is? Instead of inventing something new, they take the best ideas from everyone else and try to incorporate them? T
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:20 PM 03/03/2007, Chris Shaw wrote: I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason the Japanese have been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they just keep improving what already works, instead of reinventing all over again. Isn't that that Vista is? Instead of inventing something new, they take the best ideas from everyone else and try to incorporate them? T You mean ripping them off, right?
RE: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
To be fair, is it wrong to incorporate a feature from somewhere else? Wouldn't it be the most idiotic buisness practice to have a policy of "Do not implement anything that a competitor has done already"? I actually have Vista and OSX dual-booting on the same PC (its a hackintosh). I like both, yet I cannot see in any way how ppl can say they are basically the same. They are worlds apart. 90% of the config setting in Windows that people take for granted are not available in the OSX GUI, some can be found using the cmdline, other require editing text files.OSX is very non-user freindly if you want to do anything that isn't configurable by the limited GUI apps. The only thing that jumps out at me as a rip-off anyway is the security feature. Probably the most annoying part of both OSes. Constantly being asked "Are you sure you want to do X?" EVERY single time you do anything gets old FAST. As does having to make sure you run stuff as admin or functions fail Regards, Jason Tozer Database Analyst London Ext 1131 - 3SC.5 -Original Message- Thane Sherrington wrote: > At 02:20 PM 03/03/2007, Chris Shaw wrote: >> I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason >> the Japanese have >> been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they >> just keep improving what >> already works, instead of reinventing all over again. > > Isn't that that Vista is? Instead of inventing something new, they > take the best ideas from everyone else and try to incorporate them? > > T > *** This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England & Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Law Society of England & Wales.
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
At 01:27 PM 05/03/2007, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:20 PM 03/03/2007, Chris Shaw wrote: I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason the Japanese have been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they just keep improving what already works, instead of reinventing all over again. Isn't that that Vista is? Instead of inventing something new, they take the best ideas from everyone else and try to incorporate them? T You mean ripping them off, right? Semantics. OSX is based on BSD. Does that mean Apple "ripped them off"? T
Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
Thane Sherrington wrote: :: At 01:27 PM 05/03/2007, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: :: :: ::: Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:20 PM 03/03/2007, Chris Shaw wrote: : I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The : reason the Japanese have : been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they : just keep improving what : already works, instead of reinventing all over again. Isn't that that Vista is? Instead of inventing something new, they take the best ideas from everyone else and try to incorporate them? T ::: ::: You mean ripping them off, right? :: :: Semantics. OSX is based on BSD. Does that mean Apple "ripped them :: off"? I don't think so, since they did add OSX on top. That's value added! :)
Re[2]: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)
Hello Thane, Sunday, March 4, 2007, 10:26:45 AM, you wrote: > At 02:20 PM 03/03/2007, Chris Shaw wrote: >>I've never understood why MS just didn't "improve" on XP. The reason >>the Japanese have >>been so successful with cars (Toyota, Honda, etc.) is because they >>just keep improving what >>already works, instead of reinventing all over again. > Isn't that that Vista is? Instead of inventing something new, they > take the best ideas from everyone else and try to incorporate them? > T Yeah that statement kinda bugged me. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
