RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[Hunter, Gary]

Nah, I only bought the KVM a few weeks back and I don't want to change
it either :-( (Belkin OmniView SOHO F1DS104T) It would cost much more to
replace the KVM. If I can find something close to the Ergo 4000 I would
be happy.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:44 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

At 07:01 PM 2/25/2006, Hunter, Gary typed:
>How did I know Chris would have the answer, even if it was one I didn't

>want to hear :-(
>
>Is there something close to it that is PS2 compatable. If there is I 
>will take my 4000 to work and buy the alternative for home.
>
>I especially love the padded wrist wrest on the 4000.

How about a different KVM instead ?


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RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[Wayne Johnson]

At 07:01 PM 2/25/2006, Hunter, Gary typed:

How did I know Chris would have the answer, even if it was one I didn't
want to hear :-(

Is there something close to it that is PS2 compatable. If there is I
will take my 4000 to work and buy the alternative for home.

I especially love the padded wrist wrest on the 4000.


How about a different KVM instead ?


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   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[Hunter, Gary]

How did I know Chris would have the answer, even if it was one I didn't
want to hear :-(

Is there something close to it that is PS2 compatable. If there is I
will take my 4000 to work and buy the alternative for home. 

I especially love the padded wrist wrest on the 4000.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:52 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

Because the Ergo4000 uses the new managable HID, there is no way to make
it PS2 compatible.  This is because it can be mapped to work as multiple
devices as well as having programmability.

So, you'll never (never) find a PS2 connector that will work with this.


-Original message-
From: "Neil Davidson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:04:02 -0600
To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

> Regular PS2/USB keyboards autodetect which interface they are plugged 
> into and change their signalling/power accordingly. I'm guessing that 
> the Ergo 4000 is using a new controller chip from the previous models 
> and does not support this dual mode of operation. Seems a little odd, 
> the savings in that are going to be very very tiny (several cents 
> probably). I wouldn't be surprised to see more going this route.
> 
> You may be able to get a PS2 port that connects to USB, but I don't 
> think youd get a USB port that connects to PS2.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, 
> > Gary
> > Sent: 25 February 2006 18:49
> > To: The Hardware List
> > Subject: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Last week I got a Microsoft Ergo 4000 keyboard. This is just the 
> > best keyboard I have ever used. The only issue is it wont work with 
> > a usb -
> > ps2 convertor. I need this to work to plub it into my KVM which is 
> > PS2 only.
> > 
> > I did some searches and found everyone saying the keyboard will not 
> > work with a PS2 adaptor. Does anyone know why?
> > 
> > Is there maybe a more expensive adaptor that will work? I really 
> > can't live without this keyboard now its just so nice but I really 
> > have to get it working through the KVM. It doesn't look like they 
> > make a PS2 version either :-(
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[CW]

Because the Ergo4000 uses the new managable HID, there is no way to make it PS2 
compatible.  This is because it can be mapped to work as multiple devices as 
well as having programmability.

So, you'll never (never) find a PS2 connector that will work with this.


-Original message-
From: "Neil Davidson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:04:02 -0600
To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

> Regular PS2/USB keyboards autodetect which interface they are plugged into
> and change their signalling/power accordingly. I'm guessing that the Ergo
> 4000 is using a new controller chip from the previous models and does not
> support this dual mode of operation. Seems a little odd, the savings in that
> are going to be very very tiny (several cents probably). I wouldn't be
> surprised to see more going this route.
> 
> You may be able to get a PS2 port that connects to USB, but I don't think
> youd get a USB port that connects to PS2.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
> > Sent: 25 February 2006 18:49
> > To: The Hardware List
> > Subject: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Last week I got a Microsoft Ergo 4000 keyboard. This is just 
> > the best keyboard I have ever used. The only issue is it wont 
> > work with a usb -
> > ps2 convertor. I need this to work to plub it into my KVM 
> > which is PS2 only.
> > 
> > I did some searches and found everyone saying the keyboard 
> > will not work with a PS2 adaptor. Does anyone know why?
> > 
> > Is there maybe a more expensive adaptor that will work? I 
> > really can't live without this keyboard now its just so nice 
> > but I really have to get it working through the KVM. It 
> > doesn't look like they make a PS2 version either :-(
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> 

RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[Neil Davidson]

Regular PS2/USB keyboards autodetect which interface they are plugged into
and change their signalling/power accordingly. I'm guessing that the Ergo
4000 is using a new controller chip from the previous models and does not
support this dual mode of operation. Seems a little odd, the savings in that
are going to be very very tiny (several cents probably). I wouldn't be
surprised to see more going this route.

You may be able to get a PS2 port that connects to USB, but I don't think
youd get a USB port that connects to PS2.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
> Sent: 25 February 2006 18:49
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Last week I got a Microsoft Ergo 4000 keyboard. This is just 
> the best keyboard I have ever used. The only issue is it wont 
> work with a usb -
> ps2 convertor. I need this to work to plub it into my KVM 
> which is PS2 only.
> 
> I did some searches and found everyone saying the keyboard 
> will not work with a PS2 adaptor. Does anyone know why?
> 
> Is there maybe a more expensive adaptor that will work? I 
> really can't live without this keyboard now its just so nice 
> but I really have to get it working through the KVM. It 
> doesn't look like they make a PS2 version either :-(
> 
> Thanks
> 

RE: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[Hunter, Gary]

Yeh Mine replaced the original MS Natural. From what I've read it
probablly wont last as long but my Natural keyboard must be at least 8
years old.

I love it but I have to get it working with the PS2 connection :-( 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 2:33 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

Don't know why it won't work in PS2, but I bought a Ergo 4000 a while
back for my home machine. I like it quite a bit--I was avoiding all MS
keyboards since the original MS Natural, but I finally found one that I
think is a replacement for it. The only real downside for me was that it
is different enough to make going between it and even another MS Natural
(pre-4000) difficult. To that end, I decided to make my input devices
the same for both my home machines and work machine. Now both have Ergo
4000's with MX1000 mice. :)

My only real concern now is that I very much doubt that it will last
nearly as long as those old MS Naturals did, but oh well.

Greg


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From: "Hunter, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:48 PM
Subject: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000


> Hi,
>
> Last week I got a Microsoft Ergo 4000 keyboard. This is just the best
> keyboard I have ever used. The only issue is it wont work with a usb -
> ps2 convertor. I need this to work to plub it into my KVM which is PS2
> only.
>
> I did some searches and found everyone saying the keyboard will not
work
> with a PS2 adaptor. Does anyone know why?
>
> Is there maybe a more expensive adaptor that will work? I really can't
> live without this keyboard now its just so nice but I really have to
get
> it working through the KVM. It doesn't look like they make a PS2
version
> either :-(
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary Hunter
> Systems Engineer - Core Services
> Cendant TDS - Galileo International
> (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 (Office)
> (+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 (Cell)
>
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Re: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[Greg Sevart]

Don't know why it won't work in PS2, but I bought a Ergo 4000 a while back 
for my home machine. I like it quite a bit--I was avoiding all MS keyboards 
since the original MS Natural, but I finally found one that I think is a 
replacement for it. The only real downside for me was that it is different 
enough to make going between it and even another MS Natural (pre-4000) 
difficult. To that end, I decided to make my input devices the same for both 
my home machines and work machine. Now both have Ergo 4000's with MX1000 
mice. :)


My only real concern now is that I very much doubt that it will last nearly 
as long as those old MS Naturals did, but oh well.


Greg


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From: "Hunter, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:48 PM
Subject: [H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000



Hi,

Last week I got a Microsoft Ergo 4000 keyboard. This is just the best
keyboard I have ever used. The only issue is it wont work with a usb -
ps2 convertor. I need this to work to plub it into my KVM which is PS2
only.

I did some searches and found everyone saying the keyboard will not work
with a PS2 adaptor. Does anyone know why?

Is there maybe a more expensive adaptor that will work? I really can't
live without this keyboard now its just so nice but I really have to get
it working through the KVM. It doesn't look like they make a PS2 version
either :-(

Thanks

Gary Hunter
Systems Engineer - Core Services
Cendant TDS - Galileo International
(+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 (Office)
(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 (Cell)

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[H] USB - PS2 convertor and Microsoft Ergo 4000

[Hunter, Gary]

Hi,

Last week I got a Microsoft Ergo 4000 keyboard. This is just the best
keyboard I have ever used. The only issue is it wont work with a usb -
ps2 convertor. I need this to work to plub it into my KVM which is PS2
only.

I did some searches and found everyone saying the keyboard will not work
with a PS2 adaptor. Does anyone know why?

Is there maybe a more expensive adaptor that will work? I really can't
live without this keyboard now its just so nice but I really have to get
it working through the KVM. It doesn't look like they make a PS2 version
either :-(

Thanks

Gary Hunter 
Systems Engineer - Core Services
Cendant TDS - Galileo International 
(+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 (Office) 
(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 (Cell) 
 
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