[H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)

2009-11-30 Thread Scott Sipe

I have no experience with the XP VM in Windows7 and have tried only a small 
number of programs on Win7 (and all have worked fine). Is the XP VM needed for 
much--are there many programs that don't work?

Scott

On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:

 VMware will work with XP mode (I have done it on several desktops) as long
 as I can get it from MS. It imports and clones XP VM.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:07 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Laptop processor
 
 You need ABOVE Win7 Home Premium to apply...
 But even then, I think you are locked out.
 XP-Mode is embedded. I doubt MS lets it be used in the way you want.
 
 Rick Glazier
 
 From: Gary
 Interesting...does that mean that if I wanted to download the free
 XP with
 the P7450, I could not? And use VMware?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-bounces
 So the P8400 has 130MHz and Intel VT over the P7450.
 



Re: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)

2009-11-30 Thread Tim Lider
Scott,

As for the Windows 7 XP VM, it sucks in comparison to Sun's VirtualBox or
VMware. I myself have both Windows XP mode VM installed and Sun's VirtualBox
installed. I use Sun VirtualBox for all my XP needs.  Reason I need XP is
the Works Database is not 100% compatible with Windows 7's way of
networking.

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com


 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:51 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)
 
 
 I have no experience with the XP VM in Windows7 and have tried only a
 small number of programs on Win7 (and all have worked fine). Is the XP
 VM needed for much--are there many programs that don't work?
 
 Scott
 
 On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:
 
  VMware will work with XP mode (I have done it on several desktops) as
 long
  as I can get it from MS. It imports and clones XP VM.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:07 AM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Laptop processor
 
  You need ABOVE Win7 Home Premium to apply...
  But even then, I think you are locked out.
  XP-Mode is embedded. I doubt MS lets it be used in the way you
 want.
 
  Rick Glazier
 
  From: Gary
  Interesting...does that mean that if I wanted to download the free
  XP with
  the P7450, I could not? And use VMware?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-bounces
  So the P8400 has 130MHz and Intel VT over the P7450.
 
 




Re: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)

2009-11-30 Thread Scott Sipe
Gotcha, thanks Tim.

I have to say, I've been really impressed with VirtualBox! My usage has been 
minimal (played through Myst and Riven in a Win98 virtualbox!) but it's worked 
very well. I also like Parallels Desktop for Mac, but am getting tired of the 
upgrade train! Had to upgrade to version 4.0 when Snow Leopard came out, and 
now there's a version 5.0 out.

Thanks,
Scott

On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Tim Lider wrote:

 Scott,
 
 As for the Windows 7 XP VM, it sucks in comparison to Sun's VirtualBox or
 VMware. I myself have both Windows XP mode VM installed and Sun's VirtualBox
 installed. I use Sun VirtualBox for all my XP needs.  Reason I need XP is
 the Works Database is not 100% compatible with Windows 7's way of
 networking.
 
 Regards,
 
 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:51 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)
 
 
 I have no experience with the XP VM in Windows7 and have tried only a
 small number of programs on Win7 (and all have worked fine). Is the XP
 VM needed for much--are there many programs that don't work?
 
 Scott
 
 On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:
 
 VMware will work with XP mode (I have done it on several desktops) as
 long
 as I can get it from MS. It imports and clones XP VM.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:07 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Laptop processor
 
 You need ABOVE Win7 Home Premium to apply...
 But even then, I think you are locked out.
 XP-Mode is embedded. I doubt MS lets it be used in the way you
 want.
 
 Rick Glazier
 
 From: Gary
 Interesting...does that mean that if I wanted to download the free
 XP with
 the P7450, I could not? And use VMware?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-bounces
 So the P8400 has 130MHz and Intel VT over the P7450.
 
 
 
 



Re: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)

2009-11-30 Thread Steve Tomporowski
What's the going price on Virtualbox?

Steve

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gotcha, thanks Tim.

 I have to say, I've been really impressed with VirtualBox! My usage has been 
 minimal (played through Myst and Riven in a Win98 virtualbox!) but it's 
 worked very well. I also like Parallels Desktop for Mac, but am getting tired 
 of the upgrade train! Had to upgrade to version 4.0 when Snow Leopard came 
 out, and now there's a version 5.0 out.

 Thanks,
 Scott

 On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Tim Lider wrote:

 Scott,

 As for the Windows 7 XP VM, it sucks in comparison to Sun's VirtualBox or
 VMware. I myself have both Windows XP mode VM installed and Sun's VirtualBox
 installed. I use Sun VirtualBox for all my XP needs.  Reason I need XP is
 the Works Database is not 100% compatible with Windows 7's way of
 networking.

 Regards,

 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com


 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:51 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)


 I have no experience with the XP VM in Windows7 and have tried only a
 small number of programs on Win7 (and all have worked fine). Is the XP
 VM needed for much--are there many programs that don't work?

 Scott

 On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:

 VMware will work with XP mode (I have done it on several desktops) as
 long
 as I can get it from MS. It imports and clones XP VM.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:07 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Laptop processor

 You need ABOVE Win7 Home Premium to apply...
 But even then, I think you are locked out.
 XP-Mode is embedded. I doubt MS lets it be used in the way you
 want.

 Rick Glazier

 From: Gary
 Interesting...does that mean that if I wanted to download the free
 XP with
 the P7450, I could not? And use VMware?

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-bounces
 So the P8400 has 130MHz and Intel VT over the P7450.








Re: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)

2009-11-30 Thread JRS
Free, it's open source..

http://www.virtualbox.org/


 -- 
JRS 
stei...@pacbell.net


Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.



- Original Message 
 From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 11:24:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)
 
 What's the going price on Virtualbox?
 
 Steve
 
 On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
  Gotcha, thanks Tim.
 
  I have to say, I've been really impressed with VirtualBox! My usage has 
  been 
 minimal (played through Myst and Riven in a Win98 virtualbox!) but it's 
 worked 
 very well. I also like Parallels Desktop for Mac, but am getting tired of the 
 upgrade train! Had to upgrade to version 4.0 when Snow Leopard came out, and 
 now 
 there's a version 5.0 out.
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
 
  On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Tim Lider wrote:
 
  Scott,
 
  As for the Windows 7 XP VM, it sucks in comparison to Sun's VirtualBox or
  VMware. I myself have both Windows XP mode VM installed and Sun's 
  VirtualBox
  installed. I use Sun VirtualBox for all my XP needs.  Reason I need XP is
  the Works Database is not 100% compatible with Windows 7's way of
  networking.
 
  Regards,
 
  Tim Lider
  Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
  Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
  http://www.adv-data.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:51 AM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)
 
 
  I have no experience with the XP VM in Windows7 and have tried only a
  small number of programs on Win7 (and all have worked fine). Is the XP
  VM needed for much--are there many programs that don't work?
 
  Scott
 
  On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:
 
  VMware will work with XP mode (I have done it on several desktops) as
  long
  as I can get it from MS. It imports and clones XP VM.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:07 AM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Laptop processor
 
  You need ABOVE Win7 Home Premium to apply...
  But even then, I think you are locked out.
  XP-Mode is embedded. I doubt MS lets it be used in the way you
  want.
 
  Rick Glazier
 
  From: Gary
  Interesting...does that mean that if I wanted to download the free
  XP with
  the P7450, I could not? And use VMware?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-bounces
  So the P8400 has 130MHz and Intel VT over the P7450.
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)

2009-11-30 Thread James Boswell

It's completely free

http://www.virtualbox.org/

as in speech and as in beer.


On 30 Nov 2009, at 19:24:450, Steve Tomporowski wrote:


What's the going price on Virtualbox?

Steve

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com wrote:

Gotcha, thanks Tim.

I have to say, I've been really impressed with VirtualBox! My usage  
has been minimal (played through Myst and Riven in a Win98  
virtualbox!) but it's worked very well. I also like Parallels  
Desktop for Mac, but am getting tired of the upgrade train! Had to  
upgrade to version 4.0 when Snow Leopard came out, and now there's  
a version 5.0 out.


Thanks,
Scott

On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Tim Lider wrote:


Scott,

As for the Windows 7 XP VM, it sucks in comparison to Sun's  
VirtualBox or
VMware. I myself have both Windows XP mode VM installed and Sun's  
VirtualBox
installed. I use Sun VirtualBox for all my XP needs.  Reason I  
need XP is

the Works Database is not 100% compatible with Windows 7's way of
networking.

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:51 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)


I have no experience with the XP VM in Windows7 and have tried  
only a
small number of programs on Win7 (and all have worked fine). Is  
the XP

VM needed for much--are there many programs that don't work?

Scott

On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:

VMware will work with XP mode (I have done it on several  
desktops) as

long

as I can get it from MS. It imports and clones XP VM.


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:07 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Laptop processor

You need ABOVE Win7 Home Premium to apply...
But even then, I think you are locked out.
XP-Mode is embedded. I doubt MS lets it be used in the way you

want.


Rick Glazier

From: Gary
Interesting...does that mean that if I wanted to download the  
free

XP with

the P7450, I could not? And use VMware?


-Original Message-
From: hardware-bounces
So the P8400 has 130MHz and Intel VT over the P7450.














Re: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)

2009-11-30 Thread Gary
The reason I need it is because my wife telecommutes from home and the VPN
client she is required to use will not run on Win 7 but only XP.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:51 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] XP VM (was Re: Laptop processor)
 
 
 I have no experience with the XP VM in Windows7 and have tried only a
 small number of programs on Win7 (and all have worked fine). Is the XP
 VM needed for much--are there many programs that don't work?
 
 Scott
 
 On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:
 
  VMware will work with XP mode (I have done it on several desktops) as
 long
  as I can get it from MS. It imports and clones XP VM.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
  boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:07 AM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Laptop processor
 
  You need ABOVE Win7 Home Premium to apply...
  But even then, I think you are locked out.
  XP-Mode is embedded. I doubt MS lets it be used in the way you
 want.
 
  Rick Glazier
 
  From: Gary
  Interesting...does that mean that if I wanted to download the free
  XP with
  the P7450, I could not? And use VMware?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hardware-bounces
  So the P8400 has 130MHz and Intel VT over the P7450.