Re: [H] drive won't shrink
what? nothing was deleted except for the unmovable system restore files. Once they were gone I was able to shrink the drive. At 08:25 AM 5/12/2014, you wrote: Too bad the partition is deleted. I wonder what the permissions were that prevented you from shrinking the partition. Was it just that it was marked as a system partition? Regards, Mike At 04:47 AM 5/12/2014, Winterlight wrote: It turned out to be System Restore that was the problem. I disabled it, deleted the files and then was able to shrink the drive. At 11:29 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote: At 11:18 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote: On 5/11/14, 11:01 PM, Winterlight wrote: > > >> Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end. > > Your right... it is a few unmovable files at the end of the drive > that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable > pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off and > rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't > identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of > the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files. > You can also disable the hibernation which can cause this. This thread looks good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25221/how-to-shrink-windows-partition-with-unmovable-files-in-dual-boot-installation Hopefully this helps it does look good ... thanks Also, shrink what you can, and then keep trying, instead of trying to get it all in one shot. -Harry >> Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink. > > I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple > products complaining of this... and many of them did try Gparted but > that didn't work either. > > Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files. > I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have > never come across this. > Thanks for the help Harry. > > >> -Harry >> >> On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote: >> > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is >> > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB >> > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user >> > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and >> > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP >> > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the >> > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the >> > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk >> > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 >> > Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot >> > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. >> > >> > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is >> > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB >> > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring >> > the backup in the smaller space? > __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] drive won't shrink
Too bad the partition is deleted. I wonder what the permissions were that prevented you from shrinking the partition. Was it just that it was marked as a system partition? Regards, Mike At 04:47 AM 5/12/2014, Winterlight wrote: It turned out to be System Restore that was the problem. I disabled it, deleted the files and then was able to shrink the drive. At 11:29 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote: At 11:18 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote: On 5/11/14, 11:01 PM, Winterlight wrote: > > >> Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end. > > Your right... it is a few unmovable files at the end of the drive > that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable > pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off and > rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't > identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of > the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files. > You can also disable the hibernation which can cause this. This thread looks good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25221/how-to-shrink-windows-partition-with-unmovable-files-in-dual-boot-installation Hopefully this helps it does look good ... thanks Also, shrink what you can, and then keep trying, instead of trying to get it all in one shot. -Harry >> Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink. > > I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple > products complaining of this... and many of them did try Gparted but > that didn't work either. > > Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files. > I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have > never come across this. > Thanks for the help Harry. > > >> -Harry >> >> On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote: >> > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is >> > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB >> > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user >> > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and >> > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP >> > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the >> > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the >> > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk >> > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 >> > Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot >> > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. >> > >> > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is >> > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB >> > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring >> > the backup in the smaller space? > __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] drive won't shrink
It turned out to be System Restore that was the problem. I disabled it, deleted the files and then was able to shrink the drive. At 11:29 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote: At 11:18 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote: On 5/11/14, 11:01 PM, Winterlight wrote: > > >> Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end. > > Your right... it is a few unmovable files at the end of the drive > that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable > pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off and > rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't > identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of > the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files. > You can also disable the hibernation which can cause this. This thread looks good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25221/how-to-shrink-windows-partition-with-unmovable-files-in-dual-boot-installation Hopefully this helps it does look good ... thanks Also, shrink what you can, and then keep trying, instead of trying to get it all in one shot. -Harry >> Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink. > > I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple > products complaining of this... and many of them did try Gparted but > that didn't work either. > > Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files. > I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have > never come across this. > Thanks for the help Harry. > > >> -Harry >> >> On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote: >> > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is >> > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB >> > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user >> > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and >> > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP >> > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the >> > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the >> > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk >> > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 >> > Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot >> > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. >> > >> > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is >> > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB >> > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring >> > the backup in the smaller space? >
Re: [H] drive won't shrink
At 11:18 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote: On 5/11/14, 11:01 PM, Winterlight wrote: > > >> Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end. > > Your right... it is a few unmovable files at the end of the drive > that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable > pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off and > rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't > identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of > the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files. > You can also disable the hibernation which can cause this. This thread looks good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25221/how-to-shrink-windows-partition-with-unmovable-files-in-dual-boot-installation Hopefully this helps it does look good ... thanks Also, shrink what you can, and then keep trying, instead of trying to get it all in one shot. -Harry >> Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink. > > I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple > products complaining of this... and many of them did try Gparted but > that didn't work either. > > Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files. > I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have > never come across this. > Thanks for the help Harry. > > >> -Harry >> >> On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote: >> > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is >> > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB >> > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user >> > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and >> > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP >> > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the >> > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the >> > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk >> > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 >> > Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot >> > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. >> > >> > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is >> > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB >> > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring >> > the backup in the smaller space? >
Re: [H] drive won't shrink
On 5/11/14, 11:01 PM, Winterlight wrote: > > >> Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end. > > Your right... it is a few unmovable files at the end of the drive > that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable > pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off and > rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't > identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of > the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files. > You can also disable the hibernation which can cause this. This thread looks good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25221/how-to-shrink-windows-partition-with-unmovable-files-in-dual-boot-installation Hopefully this helps Also, shrink what you can, and then keep trying, instead of trying to get it all in one shot. -Harry >> Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink. > > I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple > products complaining of this... and many of them did try Gparted but > that didn't work either. > > Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files. > I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have > never come across this. > Thanks for the help Harry. > > >> -Harry >> >> On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote: >> > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is >> > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB >> > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user >> > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and >> > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP >> > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the >> > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the >> > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk >> > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 >> > Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot >> > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. >> > >> > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is >> > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB >> > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring >> > the backup in the smaller space? >
Re: [H] drive won't shrink
Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end. Your right... it is a few unmovable files at the end of the drive that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off and rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files. Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink. I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple products complaining of this... and many of them did try Gparted but that didn't work either. Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files. I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have never come across this. Thanks for the help Harry. -Harry On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote: > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 > Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. > > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring > the backup in the smaller space?
Re: [H] drive won't shrink
Hi, Two suggestions. Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end. Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink. -Harry On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote: > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 > Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. > > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring > the backup in the smaller space?
[H] drive won't shrink
I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7 Disk Management, Paragon Partition Manager, and Active Boot Partition Manager and they all have the same issue. Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring the backup in the smaller space?
