Re: [H] Letting your HD spin down every 2-3 minutes?
I am still lusting to try a Samsung LCD/Flat Panel... :) One day. Am using a Viewsonic 17in and a NEC 15in just now. The NEC is OK. The Viewsonic is better.. Yes, Brian, I do agree with you about CRT's also. But, I'm now worried because my Bro-in-Law works for a commercial repair site who does fixes for Eizo/Nanao. Good. Nope, he says parts for their CRT's are/have dried up! Darn, and my FX-E8 is beginning to show some need for a doctor. (purchased 07/1997)... maybe not parts, maybe only some tweaking, a bit afraid to find out. :) Best, Duncan At 14:06 11/16/2007 -0400, you wrote: At 04:34 PM 15/11/2007, Brian Weeden wrote: Well I'll bet the 6x250GB RAID 5 array I have running here 24x7 is probably sucking down significant juice. But then again my 19" CRT is probably the worst culprit. I just am very adverse to motion blur and don't like LCDs, although I will admit I haven't tried any in the last year or two. Suggestions on a good relatively inexpensive LCD to replace a 19" CRT? I find Acers to be reliable and good quality for a reasonable price. T
Re: [H] Letting your HD spin down every 2-3 minutes?
At 04:34 PM 15/11/2007, Brian Weeden wrote: Well I'll bet the 6x250GB RAID 5 array I have running here 24x7 is probably sucking down significant juice. But then again my 19" CRT is probably the worst culprit. I just am very adverse to motion blur and don't like LCDs, although I will admit I haven't tried any in the last year or two. Suggestions on a good relatively inexpensive LCD to replace a 19" CRT? I find Acers to be reliable and good quality for a reasonable price. T
RE: [H] Letting your HD spin down every 2-3 minutes?
Which will kill it very quickly. Mark Here's another thing, if you set the drive to power down after two minutes of inactivity, it's going to spin up every time you get an email, load a webpage, or save a document. I'll betting you access your drive at least once every two-three minutes, so that poor sucker's going to be spinning up an down constantly. T
Re: [H] Letting your HD spin down every 2-3 minutes?
At 12:34 PM 11/15/2007, you wrote: Well I'll bet the 6x250GB RAID 5 array I have running here 24x7 is probably sucking down significant juice. Here in Southern California my electric bill without AC is 3-400 per month. I have an apartment size guest house / rental on the meter so that means three refrigerators, but just as bad is my server = dual xeon 3.06 with 4gb of DDR, and four SATA drives which cost me around 60 per month to leave on 24/7 without the display. The problem is that once you start using power above the norm you start getting charged higher rates. My base rate is around 12 cents per KWH but by the end of the billing cycle I end up paying 32 cents per KWH. I use to leave at least two PCs on all the time but now just the server. I turn other PCs on as needed. But then again my 19" CRT is probably the worst culprit. I just am very adverse to motion blur and don't like LCDs, although I will admit I haven't tried any in the last year or two. Suggestions on a good relatively inexpensive LCD to replace a 19" CRT? On Nov 15, 2007 3:20 PM, Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you're right - I think common sense suggests that turning > something on and off more often shortens its life. The problem with > the idea that it's designed for an "enormous number" of power cycles > is that every drive has it's own individual number that it's going to > die at, and that number may be a lot lower than the number it was > "designed" to handle. > > Laptop hard drives (at least the one I'm looking at) draw 2.75W - > that's 24KW/h per year if I run it 24x7 - or $1.93 per year. If I > run it eight hours per day, then it's $0.64 per year. That's just > not a big deal. > > Here's another thing, if you set the drive to power down after two > minutes of inactivity, it's going to spin up every time you get an > email, load a webpage, or save a document. I'll betting you access > your drive at least once every two-three minutes, so that poor > sucker's going to be spinning up an down constantly. > > T > > > At 02:53 PM 15/11/2007, Brian Weeden wrote: > >Was reading the following article on how to reduce power in your home > >office and came across this quote: > > > >http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticl eBasic&articleId=9045738&pageNumber=3 > > > >"The Rocky Mountain Institute's Lovins suggests even more aggressive > >settings. Since your hard drive is designed to spin up and down an > >enormous number of times, don't hesitate to cut its turnoff setting > >from 15 minutes to, say, two or three." > > > >I had always been told that spin up/down is the #1 cause of long term > >HD death. Am I wrong or is this guy just talking out his butt? > > > >-- > >Brian Weeden > > -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] Letting your HD spin down every 2-3 minutes?
I think you're right - I think common sense suggests that turning something on and off more often shortens its life. The problem with the idea that it's designed for an "enormous number" of power cycles is that every drive has it's own individual number that it's going to die at, and that number may be a lot lower than the number it was "designed" to handle. Laptop hard drives (at least the one I'm looking at) draw 2.75W - that's 24KW/h per year if I run it 24x7 - or $1.93 per year. If I run it eight hours per day, then it's $0.64 per year. That's just not a big deal. Here's another thing, if you set the drive to power down after two minutes of inactivity, it's going to spin up every time you get an email, load a webpage, or save a document. I'll betting you access your drive at least once every two-three minutes, so that poor sucker's going to be spinning up an down constantly. T At 02:53 PM 15/11/2007, Brian Weeden wrote: Was reading the following article on how to reduce power in your home office and came across this quote: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9045738&pageNumber=3 "The Rocky Mountain Institute's Lovins suggests even more aggressive settings. Since your hard drive is designed to spin up and down an enormous number of times, don't hesitate to cut its turnoff setting from 15 minutes to, say, two or three." I had always been told that spin up/down is the #1 cause of long term HD death. Am I wrong or is this guy just talking out his butt? -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] Letting your HD spin down every 2-3 minutes?
Well I'll bet the 6x250GB RAID 5 array I have running here 24x7 is probably sucking down significant juice. But then again my 19" CRT is probably the worst culprit. I just am very adverse to motion blur and don't like LCDs, although I will admit I haven't tried any in the last year or two. Suggestions on a good relatively inexpensive LCD to replace a 19" CRT? On Nov 15, 2007 3:20 PM, Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you're right - I think common sense suggests that turning > something on and off more often shortens its life. The problem with > the idea that it's designed for an "enormous number" of power cycles > is that every drive has it's own individual number that it's going to > die at, and that number may be a lot lower than the number it was > "designed" to handle. > > Laptop hard drives (at least the one I'm looking at) draw 2.75W - > that's 24KW/h per year if I run it 24x7 - or $1.93 per year. If I > run it eight hours per day, then it's $0.64 per year. That's just > not a big deal. > > Here's another thing, if you set the drive to power down after two > minutes of inactivity, it's going to spin up every time you get an > email, load a webpage, or save a document. I'll betting you access > your drive at least once every two-three minutes, so that poor > sucker's going to be spinning up an down constantly. > > T > > > At 02:53 PM 15/11/2007, Brian Weeden wrote: > >Was reading the following article on how to reduce power in your home > >office and came across this quote: > > > >http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9045738&pageNumber=3 > > > >"The Rocky Mountain Institute's Lovins suggests even more aggressive > >settings. Since your hard drive is designed to spin up and down an > >enormous number of times, don't hesitate to cut its turnoff setting > >from 15 minutes to, say, two or three." > > > >I had always been told that spin up/down is the #1 cause of long term > >HD death. Am I wrong or is this guy just talking out his butt? > > > >-- > >Brian Weeden > > -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] Letting your HD spin down every 2-3 minutes?
Regardless of how many times a HD is designed to spin down, it certainly does not increase it's longevity and reliability to spin down more often. It's somewhat similar to the suggestion to turn off you car engine every time you come to a red light. It may (or may not) save fuel, but it won't do your engine any good. Mike On 11/15/07, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Was reading the following article on how to reduce power in your home > office and came across this quote: > > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9045738&pageNumber=3 > > "The Rocky Mountain Institute's Lovins suggests even more aggressive > settings. Since your hard drive is designed to spin up and down an > enormous number of times, don't hesitate to cut its turnoff setting > from 15 minutes to, say, two or three." > > I had always been told that spin up/down is the #1 cause of long term > HD death. Am I wrong or is this guy just talking out his butt? > > -- > Brian Weeden > -- "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin
