RE: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

[Harvey Best]

Ok, that all makes sense to me, even as slow as I am.
 
Will give it a try tomorrow.
 
Thanks again, Harvey


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] OT 
> Networking question somewhat different> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:48:55 
> -0800> > >There is no modem. Just a line from the antenna > >that is 
> networked size and plugs into the network > >card of the computer. > > The 
> base of the antenna must have a built-in modem.> Is it powered? > Try this: 
> from the computer currently wired to the> antenna, go to a command prompt and 
> enter> ipconfig /all> The result should tell you if the antenna adapter is > 
> handing out an IP address via DHCP.> > >If I am understanding what you 
> suggested, would> >be to plug the modem, (again there is just a network> 
> >cable coming from the outside antenna) into a regular> >jack on the router, 
> and let the other 2 systems connect> >wirelessly? Router acting as switch. > 
> > Yes.> > >Then use ICS for the 3 to share Internet access?> > No, all three 
> computers should get connectivity from> the router, either wired or 
> wireless.> ICS is an abomination used only when you have > no router.> > Gary 
> VanderMolen> > 
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Re: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

[Gary VanderMolen]

>There is no modem. Just a line from the antenna 
>that is networked size and plugs into the network 
>card of the computer. 

The base of the antenna must have a built-in modem.
Is it powered? 
Try this: from the computer currently wired to the
antenna, go to a command prompt and enter
ipconfig /all
The result should tell you if the antenna adapter is 
handing out an IP address via DHCP.

>If I am understanding what you suggested, would
>be to plug the modem, (again there is just a network
>cable coming from the outside antenna) into a regular
>jack on the router, and let the other 2 systems connect
>wirelessly? Router acting as switch. 

Yes.

>Then use ICS for the 3 to share Internet access?

No, all three computers should get connectivity from
the router, either wired or wireless.
ICS is an abomination used only when you have 
no router.

Gary VanderMolen

RE: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

[Harvey Best]

Hey thanks, now I have 3 things to try. Still looking for a ISP that has 
wireless to see what they say. Might not be the same, but it would probably be 
close.
 
Thanks again, Harvey



> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:25:14 -0700> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [H] OT Networking question somewhat 
> different> > just a guess but perhaps the wify setup uses a fixed ip and you 
> may need to input the info into the router on the WAN side. sort of like a T1 
> line. May need the ip and dns settings which should be in the computer if 
> this is how it is set up. Then the router would handle downstream.> fp> > At 
> 02:07 PM 12/30/2006, Harvey Best Poked the stick with:> >Hi,> > > >Friend of 
> mine in an area with dial up only, just got a wireless (high speed) Internet 
> connection. There is an area antenna and at his house there is a small 
> antenna aimed at the community antenna. From the house antenna there is a 
> network cable that runs to the network card on his desktop computer. He wants 
> to network so he can use his laptop and another desktop in the house. I got 
> him a Linksys router and a USB network card for his other desktop. > > > 
> >Problem -- when I hook up the router and start in to setup, it hits a "wall" 
> in the setup and says it doesn't recognize the modem. Now, I know routers are 
> designed for cable/dsl modems and for high speed Internet connections. Has 
> anybody tried or done a hookup like this? Since it is sending it the info by 
> a network line and is plugged in to a network card, I assumed that the router 
> would treat it as another high speed connection.> > > >Any pointers or ideas 
> on this? We have a call in to the ISP that uses these to see if there are 
> special instructions. The TOS doesn't limit you to the one system only, it 
> allows for other hookups as long as they are in the same physical house. 
> Going up there for New Years, and hoping to knock this out. Have not got a 
> call back from tech support as of yet, assuming holidays are slowing 
> everything down, and it is a small local ISP.> > > >Thanks, Harvey> > > 
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Re: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

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just a guess but perhaps the wify setup uses a fixed ip and you may need to 
input the info into the router on the WAN side. sort of like a T1 line. May 
need the ip and dns settings which should be in the computer if this is how it 
is set up. Then the router would handle downstream.
fp

At 02:07 PM 12/30/2006, Harvey Best Poked the stick with:
>Hi,
> 
>Friend of mine in an area with dial up only, just got a wireless (high speed) 
>Internet connection. There is an area antenna and at his house there is a 
>small antenna aimed at the community antenna. From the house antenna there is 
>a network cable that runs to the network card on his desktop computer. He 
>wants to network so he can use his laptop and another desktop in the house. I 
>got him a Linksys router and a USB network card for his other desktop. 
> 
>Problem -- when I hook up the router and start in to setup, it hits a "wall" 
>in the setup and says it doesn't recognize the modem. Now, I know routers are 
>designed for cable/dsl modems and for high speed Internet connections. Has 
>anybody tried or done a hookup like this? Since it is sending it the info by a 
>network line and is plugged in to a network card, I assumed that the router 
>would treat it as another high speed connection.
> 
>Any pointers or ideas on this? We have a call in to the ISP that uses these to 
>see if there are special instructions. The TOS doesn't limit you to the one 
>system only, it allows for other hookups as long as they are in the same 
>physical house.  Going up there for New Years, and hoping to knock this out. 
>Have not got a call back from tech support as of yet, assuming holidays are 
>slowing everything down, and it is a small local ISP.
> 
>Thanks,  Harvey
> 
>hbest
>
>
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RE: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

[Harvey Best]

Okay, more info, (The Web page of the ISP does not have any info, tried that 
the first time, and calls going unreturned, assuming holiday delays). 
 
There is no modem. Just a line from the antenna that is networked size and 
plugs into the network card of the computer. I took that cable and plugged into 
the router as if coming from a modem. But it goes un-recognized.
 
I am searching now for a wireless ISP site that might give me the info I need. 
 
If I am understanding what you suggested, would be to plug the modem, (again 
there is just a network cable coming from the outside antenna) into a regular 
jack on the router, and let the other 2 systems connect wirelessly? Router 
acting as switch. Then use ICS for the 3 to share Internet access?
 
I will give it a try tomorrow and see what happens.
 
Thanks, Harvey



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] OT 
> Networking question somewhat different> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:21:47 
> -0800> > The wireless ISP (WISP) should have a web page that explains how> to 
> setup for networking.> Try this in the meantime:> Assuming that the modem is 
> already doing NAT and DHCP,> connect the line from the modem to a LAN jack on 
> the router instead of> the WAN jack. That way you'll be using the router as a 
> simple switch.> > Gary VanderMolen> > 
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Re: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

[Gary VanderMolen]

The wireless ISP (WISP) should have a web page that explains how
to setup for networking.
Try this in the meantime:
Assuming that the modem is already doing NAT and DHCP,
connect the line from the modem to a LAN jack on the router instead of
the WAN jack. That way you'll be using the router as a simple switch.

Gary VanderMolen

RE: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

[Mark Dodge]

Right off hand I would say that another nic in the computer would be able to
share to a switch and the computer would be the firewall, sort of old
fashioned but it would work.

 

Mark

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:08 PM
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Subject: [H] OT Networking question somewhat different

 

Hi,
 
Friend of mine in an area with dial up only, just got a wireless (high
speed) Internet connection. There is an area antenna and at his house there
is a small antenna aimed at the community antenna. From the house antenna
there is a network cable that runs to the network card on his desktop
computer. He wants to network so he can use his laptop and another desktop
in the house. I got him a Linksys router and a USB network card for his
other desktop. 
 
Problem -- when I hook up the router and start in to setup, it hits a "wall"
in the setup and says it doesn't recognize the modem. Now, I know routers
are designed for cable/dsl modems and for high speed Internet connections.
Has anybody tried or done a hookup like this? Since it is sending it the
info by a network line and is plugged in to a network card, I assumed that
the router would treat it as another high speed connection.
 
Any pointers or ideas on this? We have a call in to the ISP that uses these
to see if there are special instructions. The TOS doesn't limit you to the
one system only, it allows for other hookups as long as they are in the same
physical house.  Going up there for New Years, and hoping to knock this out.
Have not got a call back from tech support as of yet, assuming holidays are
slowing everything down, and it is a small local ISP.
 
Thanks,  Harvey
 
hbest

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