Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-18 Thread Jeff Lane
How did everyone get knocked off, Chris? I think I am getting everything 
that has been sent, although not very much.


BTW that new PC is really impressive.wow... what a CPU cooler!

Jeff



Whew!  Ok, I'll contact everyone who emailed me, if they've been bumped 
from the list (JRS, Veech, etc.) then we'll need to re-ad them.


Sending through another, just some pictures of a system build...

http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/928.jpg
http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/929.jpg
http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/934.jpg

Not totally done, but one I thought was nice.. two already OC'd 
8800GTX/SLI QX6700/Tuniq/1kW PSU.. pretty.  Still need to put three more 
burners in it and a media reader, but it's coming along nice ;)


(figured I'd throw out more then just a test test)





Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-18 Thread CW
Not sure ;)  I'll message Jim, I think he's running the server at a colo or 
somewhere.  I spoke to him a while back and I think he was telling me it was 
several revisions back on Linux.

Yeah, I really like those kind of builds; I've got about four of them going at 
the moment.  Everyone keeps talking to me about Watercooling, and we've done 
some of that, but man.. talk about a hastle.  The tuniq may be the best thing 
I've seen for cooling.. it does a better job then most of the water cooling 
systems we've tried (Thermaltake Tribe / Zalman 1 / 2 / Gigabyte) and outside 
of a custom danger den kit, it's the best solution I've seen.  

And it's a hell of a lot less hassle and risk.  And so quiet.  

I should take some pictures of the AMD 4X4 box we've got up.. FX72*2 on a 
board.  That's a strange solution.. here's one thing to be said about it:  XP 
Performance on it SUCKS but Vista-64 performance with enough memory is pretty 
impressive.  The board is still too big, but as a server board, it's about 
everything you could ask for.

CW

-Original message-
From: "Jeff Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:08:27 -0600
To: "The Hardware List" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

> How did everyone get knocked off, Chris? I think I am getting everything 
> that has been sent, although not very much.
> 
> BTW that new PC is really impressive.wow... what a CPU cooler!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> > Whew!  Ok, I'll contact everyone who emailed me, if they've been bumped 
> > from the list (JRS, Veech, etc.) then we'll need to re-ad them.
> >
> > Sending through another, just some pictures of a system build...
> >
> > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/928.jpg
> > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/929.jpg
> > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/934.jpg
> >
> > Not totally done, but one I thought was nice.. two already OC'd 
> > 8800GTX/SLI QX6700/Tuniq/1kW PSU.. pretty.  Still need to put three more 
> > burners in it and a media reader, but it's coming along nice ;)
> >
> > (figured I'd throw out more then just a test test)
> > 
> 
> 


Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-18 Thread Jeff Lane

I'll have to look at that next time I build a box.

We're the only one I have received today from the list and only the "bottom 
line" thread last couple of days.



Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links


Not sure ;)  I'll message Jim, I think he's running the server at a colo 
or somewhere.  I spoke to him a while back and I think he was telling me 
it was several revisions back on Linux.


Yeah, I really like those kind of builds; I've got about four of them 
going at the moment.  Everyone keeps talking to me about Watercooling, and 
we've done some of that, but man.. talk about a hastle.  The tuniq may be 
the best thing I've seen for cooling.. it does a better job then most of 
the water cooling systems we've tried (Thermaltake Tribe / Zalman 1 / 2 / 
Gigabyte) and outside of a custom danger den kit, it's the best solution 
I've seen.


And it's a hell of a lot less hassle and risk.  And so quiet.

I should take some pictures of the AMD 4X4 box we've got up.. FX72*2 on a 
board.  That's a strange solution.. here's one thing to be said about it: 
XP Performance on it SUCKS but Vista-64 performance with enough memory is 
pretty impressive.  The board is still too big, but as a server board, 
it's about everything you could ask for.


CW

-Original message-
>

How did everyone get knocked off, Chris? I think I am getting everything
that has been sent, although not very much.

BTW that new PC is really impressive.wow... what a CPU cooler!

Jeff



> Whew!  Ok, I'll contact everyone who emailed me, if they've been bumped
> from the list (JRS, Veech, etc.) then we'll need to re-ad them.
>
> Sending through another, just some pictures of a system build...
>
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/928.jpg
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/929.jpg
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/934.jpg
>
> Not totally done, but one I thought was nice.. two already OC'd
> 8800GTX/SLI QX6700/Tuniq/1kW PSU.. pretty.  Still need to put three 
> more

> burners in it and a media reader, but it's coming along nice ;)
>
> (figured I'd throw out more then just a test test)
>








RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-18 Thread James Maki
> -Original Message-
> From: CW

> Whew!  Ok, I'll contact everyone who emailed me, if they've 
> been bumped from the list (JRS, Veech, etc.) then we'll need 
> to re-ad them.
> 
> Sending through another, just some pictures of a system build...
> 
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/928.jpg
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/929.jpg
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/934.jpg
> 
> Not totally done, but one I thought was nice.. two already 
> OC'd 8800GTX/SLI QX6700/Tuniq/1kW PSU.. pretty.  Still need 
> to put three more burners in it and a media reader, but it's 
> coming along nice ;)
> 
> (figured I'd throw out more then just a test test)

I have been having trouble posting to the list recently. Is the system build
in a Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS case? Looks VERY roomy. If this is
the Thermaltake, what do you think about the case? If not, what brand/model
is the case?

Thanks,

Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-18 Thread tmservo
Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and easy 
to work with. I like the psu mount a lot

We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all the 
pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional

CW

Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless  

-Original Message-
From: "James Maki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:01:38 
To:"'The Hardware List'" 
Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links

> -Original Message-
> From: CW

> Whew!  Ok, I'll contact everyone who emailed me, if they've 
> been bumped from the list (JRS, Veech, etc.) then we'll need 
> to re-ad them.
> 
> Sending through another, just some pictures of a system build...
> 
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/928.jpg
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/929.jpg
> http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/934.jpg
> 
> Not totally done, but one I thought was nice.. two already 
> OC'd 8800GTX/SLI QX6700/Tuniq/1kW PSU.. pretty.  Still need 
> to put three more burners in it and a media reader, but it's 
> coming along nice ;)
> 
> (figured I'd throw out more then just a test test)

I have been having trouble posting to the list recently. Is the system build
in a Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS case? Looks VERY roomy. If this is
the Thermaltake, what do you think about the case? If not, what brand/model
is the case?

Thanks,

Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread DHSinclair

CW,
Who makes the cpu hs/cooler? Nice heatpipe design, but I'd be happier if it 
also had
some bracket from the top of the stack to the case cross-piece above the 
monster.
Looks like a big torquey weight to expect the cpu socket to support. Yes, 
it does

look like it is very quiet.
Best,
Duncan
At 19:23 02/18/2007 -0500, you wrote:


snip
Yeah, I really like those kind of builds; I've got about four of them 
going at the moment.  Everyone keeps talking to me about Watercooling, and 
we've done some of that, but man.. talk about a hastle.  The tuniq may be 
the best thing I've seen for cooling.. it does a better job then most of 
the water cooling systems we've tried (Thermaltake Tribe / Zalman 1 / 2 / 
Gigabyte) and outside of a custom danger den kit, it's the best solution 
I've seen.


And it's a hell of a lot less hassle and risk.  And so quiet.

snip

CW

-Original message-
From: "Jeff Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:08:27 -0600
To: "The Hardware List" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

> How did everyone get knocked off, Chris? I think I am getting everything
> that has been sent, although not very much.
>
> BTW that new PC is really impressive.wow... what a CPU cooler!
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> > Whew!  Ok, I'll contact everyone who emailed me, if they've been bumped
> > from the list (JRS, Veech, etc.) then we'll need to re-ad them.
> >
> > Sending through another, just some pictures of a system build...
> >
> > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/928.jpg
> > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/929.jpg
> > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/934.jpg
> >
> > Not totally done, but one I thought was nice.. two already OC'd
> > 8800GTX/SLI QX6700/Tuniq/1kW PSU.. pretty.  Still need to put three more
> > burners in it and a media reader, but it's coming along nice ;)
> >
> > (figured I'd throw out more then just a test test)
> >
>
>


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Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Raul Limos

On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and easy 
to work with. I like the psu mount a lot

We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all the 
pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional


Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem?  It says at the
website there are filters for the grills.

How about the weight with everything installed?


Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread CW
The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is 66lbs.  
So, heavy so & so.  

It's not really that much of a dust magnet.  We sent one to NY a while back 
that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled 
SLI-8800GTX.  

Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver support 
for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS.  Absolutely SUCKS.  

It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI.  In Vista 64, Vista 
only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance.  The 680i chipset, for 
all of it's pros, has some issues still.  Asus came out with the P5N32-E Plus, 
which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590 southbridge.. so 
you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under Vista 64 that it's 
sickening.  Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the 680i, but under Vista 
64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out there.

I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this list 
back on hardware.  I checked the benches for what's being built and at least I 
can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other oddballs I can 
get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion going :)

FYI-

I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say 
they can't post and keep getting bumped.  Jim, my email to you bounces.. things 
OK?

CW

-Original message-
From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

> On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and 
> > easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot
> >
> > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all 
> > the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional
> 
> Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem?  It says at the
> website there are filters for the grills.
> 
> How about the weight with everything installed?
> 


RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Tim \"The Beave\" Lider
Nice computer.  Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case?  Putting that
much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your
wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer.
 

Tim "The Beave" Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is
66lbs.  So, heavy so & so.  

It's not really that much of a dust magnet.  We sent one to NY a while back
that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled
SLI-8800GTX.  

Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver
support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS.  Absolutely SUCKS.  

It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI.  In Vista 64, Vista
only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance.  The 680i chipset, for
all of it's pros, has some issues still.  Asus came out with the P5N32-E
Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590
southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under
Vista 64 that it's sickening.  Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the
680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out
there.

I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this
list back on hardware.  I checked the benches for what's being built and at
least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other
oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion
going :)

FYI-

I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say
they can't post and keep getting bumped.  Jim, my email to you bounces..
things OK?

CW

-Original message-
From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

> On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and
easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot
> >
> > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all
the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional
> 
> Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem?  It says at the
> website there are filters for the grills.
> 
> How about the weight with everything installed?
> 




Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Al

"Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer.

Yes please.

al


RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Tim \"The Beave\" Lider
Give me a few days.  I need to clean it out anyway. 

Tim "The Beave" Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:16 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links


"Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer.

Yes please.

al




Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread dex
Please. Also include component detail if not too much trouble. 
  

-Original Message-
From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:11:18 
To:"'The Hardware List'" 
Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links

Nice computer.  Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case?  Putting that
much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your
wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer.
 

Tim "The Beave" Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is
66lbs.  So, heavy so & so.  

It's not really that much of a dust magnet.  We sent one to NY a while back
that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled
SLI-8800GTX.  

Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver
support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS.  Absolutely SUCKS.  

It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI.  In Vista 64, Vista
only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance.  The 680i chipset, for
all of it's pros, has some issues still.  Asus came out with the P5N32-E
Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590
southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under
Vista 64 that it's sickening.  Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the
680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out
there.

I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this
list back on hardware.  I checked the benches for what's being built and at
least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other
oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion
going :)

FYI-

I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say
they can't post and keep getting bumped.  Jim, my email to you bounces..
things OK?

CW

-Original message-
From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

> On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and
easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot
> >
> > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all
the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional
> 
> Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem?  It says at the
> website there are filters for the grills.
> 
> How about the weight with everything installed?
> 





Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Al

"Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Give me a few days.  I need to clean it out anyway. 

What case are you using?  

al


RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread CW
High demand on that case, actually.. we mostly build to order, so whatever the 
customer wants, it's what they get.

The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the 
moment.  *shrug* lots of expandability.  I tend to like thier styling, for what 
it's worth ;)

CW

-Original message-
From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:12:45 -0600
To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links

> Nice computer.  Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case?  Putting that
> much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your
> wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer.
>  
> 
> Tim "The Beave" Lider
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links
> 
> The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is
> 66lbs.  So, heavy so & so.  
> 
> It's not really that much of a dust magnet.  We sent one to NY a while back
> that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled
> SLI-8800GTX.  
> 
> Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver
> support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS.  Absolutely SUCKS.  
> 
> It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI.  In Vista 64, Vista
> only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance.  The 680i chipset, for
> all of it's pros, has some issues still.  Asus came out with the P5N32-E
> Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590
> southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under
> Vista 64 that it's sickening.  Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the
> 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out
> there.
> 
> I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this
> list back on hardware.  I checked the benches for what's being built and at
> least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other
> oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion
> going :)
> 
> FYI-
> 
> I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say
> they can't post and keep getting bumped.  Jim, my email to you bounces..
> things OK?
> 
> CW
> 
> -Original message-
> From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links
> 
> > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and
> easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot
> > >
> > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all
> the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional
> > 
> > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem?  It says at the
> > website there are filters for the grills.
> > 
> > How about the weight with everything installed?
> > 
> 
> 
> 


Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Raul Limos

On 2/20/07, CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the 
moment.  *shrug* lots of expandability.  I tend to like thier styling, for what 
it's worth ;)


I'm impressed by its roominess, does not get swallowed up those big
ass HSFs and long video cards.  How much does this go around today?
Might buy one also.


RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread DHSinclair

Nice answer, but what about the HS/Cooler?
RU NOT getting my noise?
Best,
Duncan
At 17:03 02/19/2007 -0500, you wrote:

High demand on that case, actually.. we mostly build to order, so whatever 
the customer wants, it's what they get.


The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the 
moment.  *shrug* lots of expandability.  I tend to like thier styling, for 
what it's worth ;)


CW

-Original message-
From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:12:45 -0600
To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links

> Nice computer.  Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case?  Putting that
> much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your
> wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming 
Computer.

>
>
> Tim "The Beave" Lider
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links
>
> The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is
> 66lbs.  So, heavy so & so.
>
> It's not really that much of a dust magnet.  We sent one to NY a while back
> that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled
> SLI-8800GTX.
>
> Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver
> support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS.  Absolutely SUCKS.
>
> It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI.  In Vista 64, 
Vista
> only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance.  The 680i 
chipset, for

> all of it's pros, has some issues still.  Asus came out with the P5N32-E
> Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590
> southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under
> Vista 64 that it's sickening.  Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the
> 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out
> there.
>
> I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this
> list back on hardware.  I checked the benches for what's being built and at
> least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other
> oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware 
discussion

> going :)
>
> FYI-
>
> I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say
> they can't post and keep getting bumped.  Jim, my email to you bounces..
> things OK?
>
> CW
>
> -Original message-
> From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links
>
> > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is 
roomy and

> easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot
> > >
> > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even 
for all

> the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional
> >
> > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem?  It says at the
> > website there are filters for the grills.
> >
> > How about the weight with everything installed?
> >
>
>
>


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Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Al Anger

"Raul Limos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm impressed by its roominess, does not get swallowed up those big
> ass HSFs and long video cards.  How much does this go around today?
> Might buy one also.

Was lookin' at some; just under $200

al




RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread CW
The way that fan mounts down is actually really solid.  It's a four point bolt 
mount to the motherboard.  And the fan itself is incredibly light.  Using the 
bump pads on the top, it braces against the outer case door, so it's not going 
anywhere.  Shipped seven, and I've had less problems with that fan then almost 
anything else ;)

-Original message-
From: DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:48:21 -0600
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links

> Nice answer, but what about the HS/Cooler?
> RU NOT getting my noise?
> Best,
> Duncan
> At 17:03 02/19/2007 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >High demand on that case, actually.. we mostly build to order, so whatever 
> >the customer wants, it's what they get.
> >
> >The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the 
> >moment.  *shrug* lots of expandability.  I tend to like thier styling, for 
> >what it's worth ;)
> >
> >CW
> >
> >-Original message-
> >From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:12:45 -0600
> >To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links
> >
> > > Nice computer.  Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case?  Putting that
> > > much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your
> > > wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming 
> > Computer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim "The Beave" Lider
> > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
> > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM
> > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links
> > >
> > > The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is
> > > 66lbs.  So, heavy so & so.
> > >
> > > It's not really that much of a dust magnet.  We sent one to NY a while 
> > > back
> > > that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled
> > > SLI-8800GTX.
> > >
> > > Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver
> > > support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS.  Absolutely SUCKS.
> > >
> > > It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI.  In Vista 64, 
> > Vista
> > > only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance.  The 680i 
> > chipset, for
> > > all of it's pros, has some issues still.  Asus came out with the P5N32-E
> > > Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590
> > > southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under
> > > Vista 64 that it's sickening.  Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the
> > > 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out
> > > there.
> > >
> > > I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this
> > > list back on hardware.  I checked the benches for what's being built and 
> > > at
> > > least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other
> > > oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware 
> > discussion
> > > going :)
> > >
> > > FYI-
> > >
> > > I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who 
> > > say
> > > they can't post and keep getting bumped.  Jim, my email to you bounces..
> > > things OK?
> > >
> > > CW
> > >
> > > -Original message-
> > > From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links
> > >
> > > > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is 
> > roomy and
> > > easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot
> > > > >
> > > > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even 
> > for all
> > > the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional
> > > >
> > > > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem?  It says at the
> > > > website there are filters for the grills.
> > > >
> > > > How about the weight with everything installed?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread CW
That case, which is the Quad one, normally goes like, $170 or so.

-Original message-
From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:31:22 -0600
To: "The Hardware List" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links

> On 2/20/07, CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the 
> > moment.  *shrug* lots of expandability.  I tend to like thier styling, for 
> > what it's worth ;)
> 
> I'm impressed by its roominess, does not get swallowed up those big
> ass HSFs and long video cards.  How much does this go around today?
> Might buy one also.
> 


RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Tim "The Beave" Lider
The Case is Lian Li PC-V1000B PLUS II Black Aluminum Mid-Tower Case with
Window Modified by Performance PC's and I. The next case I am looking at is
the Silverstone TJ09.

Tim "The Beave" Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:36 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links


"Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Give me a few days.  I need to clean it out anyway. 

What case are you using?  

al




RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-19 Thread Greg Sevart
Looks like a mini version of my PC-V2000B. Love the case--just wish it held
even more drives.

:)

Greg

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim "The Beave" Lider
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:02 PM
> To: 'The Hardware List'
> Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links
> 
> The Case is Lian Li PC-V1000B PLUS II Black Aluminum Mid-Tower Case with
> Window Modified by Performance PC's and I. The next case I am looking at
is
> the Silverstone TJ09.
> 
> Tim "The Beave" Lider
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:36 AM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links
> 
> 
> "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Give me a few days.  I need to clean it out anyway.
> 
> What case are you using?
> 
> al
> 





RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-21 Thread DHSinclair

OK. Nice info.  Now, who is the maker/vendor for this beast?
Best,
Duncan

At 18:50 02/19/2007 -0500, CW wrote:

The way that fan mounts down is actually really solid.  It's a four point 
bolt mount to the motherboard.  And the fan itself is incredibly 
light.  Using the bump pads on the top, it braces against the outer case 
door, so it's not going anywhere.  Shipped seven, and I've had less 
problems with that fan then almost anything else ;)

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RE: [H] PC Picture Links

2007-02-21 Thread Tim "The Beave" Lider
I got the case from Performance-PC.com.  They modify cases for you so you do
not have to do it yourself.  I had my case fitted with a new power button
and Blue neon sleeving, also a Blow Hole on top as well.  

Gaming computer is being cleaned right now.  As the dust gets cleared I'll
take photos.

Gear is:
Case - Lian Li PC-V1000B PLUS II Black Aluminum Mid-Tower Case with Window
Power Supply - PC Power & Cooling Ultra-Quiet Silencer® 750 Quad Power
Supply - Black
CPU - Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Conroe 2.93GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775
Processor
CPU Cooler - ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink
Motherboard - ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel
Motherboard
Video Cards - 2x ASUS EN7900GTX/2PHT/512M Geforce 7900GTX 256-bit GDDR3 PCI
Express x16 Video Card
Sound Card - Creative 70SB046A0 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series
DVD-R's 2x PLEXTOR 18X DVD±R DVD Burner included Replaceable beige front
bezel Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model PX-760A/SW-BL
HD1 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard
Drive
HD2 - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3750640A 750GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100
Hard Drive

This is the box itself.  I built the computer myself. I've added some
ThermalTake Fans to keep it quiet when it's not running hot.

Tim "The Beave" Lider 
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:57 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links

OK. Nice info.  Now, who is the maker/vendor for this beast?
Best,
Duncan

At 18:50 02/19/2007 -0500, CW wrote:

>The way that fan mounts down is actually really solid.  It's a four point 
>bolt mount to the motherboard.  And the fan itself is incredibly 
>light.  Using the bump pads on the top, it braces against the outer case 
>door, so it's not going anywhere.  Shipped seven, and I've had less 
>problems with that fan then almost anything else ;)
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