Re: [H] UPS Deals?

2010-02-18 Thread Rick Glazier

I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas.
I try to get at least 4 at those times.
Sorry, I buy "seasonally" like that.
Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life),
so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I "think*...

Rick Glazier

From: "Hunter, Gary"
Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's? 


I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I have they 
are all underpowered.

I don't need top of the range just a good deal :)



Re: [H] UPS Deals?

2010-02-18 Thread Hunter, Gary
I haven't found any spectacular deals yet. Who knows I may well end up
waiting that long :)

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I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas.
I try to get at least 4 at those times.
Sorry, I buy "seasonally" like that.
Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life),
so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I "think*...

Rick Glazier

From: "Hunter, Gary"
Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's? 

I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I
have they are all underpowered.

I don't need top of the range just a good deal :)

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Re: [H] UPS Deals?

2010-02-18 Thread DSinc

Gary,
I know money is tight. Ups's are costly. But, look at the APC Back-Ups 
brand. Someone on our list uses the "Smart-UPS" level boxes. I could 
never justify the expense (~$100).


I use APC's 1500KVA LCD toys now. Replacements for 1100KVA units (1998).
I think APC may offer 1000VA and 750VA choices.

Sales come and go. Understand. What is your data/LAN worth?

For sure, I think you need at least 1000KVA for what you have in your 
study; as you have it wired ATM. JMHO.

Best,
Duncan


On 02/18/2010 17:15, Hunter, Gary wrote:

I haven't found any spectacular deals yet. Who knows I may well end up
waiting that long :)

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:58 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] UPS Deals?

I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas.
I try to get at least 4 at those times.
Sorry, I buy "seasonally" like that.
Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life),
so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I "think*...

Rick Glazier

From: "Hunter, Gary"
Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's?

I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I
have they are all underpowered.

I don't need top of the range just a good deal :)

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Re: [H] UPS Deals?

2010-02-18 Thread Hunter, Gary
Thanks for the advice Duncan.

Got my new surge protectors delivered today and guess what. When the
Laser printer kicks in the PC no longer turns off :) So I guess the
surge protection on the old UPS is not up to scratch :-)



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[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:45 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] UPS Deals?

Gary,
I know money is tight. Ups's are costly. But, look at the APC Back-Ups 
brand. Someone on our list uses the "Smart-UPS" level boxes. I could 
never justify the expense (~$100).

I use APC's 1500KVA LCD toys now. Replacements for 1100KVA units (1998).
I think APC may offer 1000VA and 750VA choices.

Sales come and go. Understand. What is your data/LAN worth?

For sure, I think you need at least 1000KVA for what you have in your 
study; as you have it wired ATM. JMHO.
Best,
Duncan


On 02/18/2010 17:15, Hunter, Gary wrote:
> I haven't found any spectacular deals yet. Who knows I may well end up
> waiting that long :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:58 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] UPS Deals?
>
> I look around on Black Friday sales, or right after Christmas.
> I try to get at least 4 at those times.
> Sorry, I buy "seasonally" like that.
> Note: They are sometimes up to a year old, (shelf life),
> so I'm not sure I'm saving as much as I "think*...
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> From: "Hunter, Gary"
> Does anyone know of any good deals on UPS's?
>
> I haven't bought one for many, many years and looking at the three I
> have they are all underpowered.
>
> I don't need top of the range just a good deal :)
>
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Re: [H] UPS Deals?

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Glazier

Sorry for the delay.
Constantly hitting a Surge Protector with surges WILL "use it up".
Most are sacrificial devices. Each "hit" grinds down what it will do "next 
time".
And the better ones come with lights to tell you when they "are gone"...

If at all possible, this should be handled another way, maybe like a different
circuit to isolate the surge farther "downstream" from the protector or 
computer.

I'm assuming they were plugged into the same wall outlet or something?

Rick Glazier

From: "Hunter, Gary" February 18, 2010 10:30 PM

Thanks for the advice Duncan.



Got my new surge protectors delivered today and guess what. When the
Laser printer kicks in the PC no longer turns off :) So I guess the
surge protection on the old UPS is not up to scratch :-)




Re: [H] UPS Deals?

2010-03-08 Thread Eli Allen
MOV style surge protectors wear out the fastest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Rick Glazier  wrote:
> Sorry for the delay.
> Constantly hitting a Surge Protector with surges WILL "use it up".
> Most are sacrificial devices. Each "hit" grinds down what it will do "next
> time".
> And the better ones come with lights to tell you when they "are gone"...
>
> If at all possible, this should be handled another way, maybe like a
> different
> circuit to isolate the surge farther "downstream" from the protector or
> computer.
>
> I'm assuming they were plugged into the same wall outlet or something?
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> From: "Hunter, Gary" February 18, 2010 10:30 PM
>>
>> Thanks for the advice Duncan.
>
>> Got my new surge protectors delivered today and guess what. When the
>> Laser printer kicks in the PC no longer turns off :) So I guess the
>> surge protection on the old UPS is not up to scratch :-)
>
>