Re: [H] time for upgrade

2021-03-19 Thread Greg Sevart
Frankly, I've had so many servers with bad DDR4 DIMMs (we typically max 2P 
boxes at 768GB or 1TB of RAM each) that I'm scared to run DDR4 w/o ECC on 
anything I care about.

Even with ECC, many of them fault out with multi-bit errors, which it can 
detect but not correct. Still infinitely better than silent data corruption.

Happy to see a form of ECC become standard with DDR5, but I suspect it was 
borne out of pure necessity more than anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of _ 
Winterlight
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 12:09 PM
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I was considering an ECC ram after this catastrophic experience. And I ran dual 
Xenons 20 years ago. What astonishes me is the number of different models of 
any CPU. The W-1200 has 43 different CPU choices ranging from  $400 to $4000.


From: Hardware  on behalf of Greg 
Sevart 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [H] time for upgrade

Plus considerably more PCIe lanes--but ultimately an older platform and at a 
pretty big clock speed disadvantage.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Al A
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:01 PM
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I agree with the Xeon. If you can swing it, get the 22xx series Xeon for 4 
channel memory.

Al

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:15 PM Greg Sevart  wrote:

> My recommendation at this point given your requirements would be a
> W-1200 series Xeon and ECC Unbuffered memory.
>
>





Re: [H] time for upgrade

2021-03-19 Thread _ Winterlight
I was considering an ECC ram after this catastrophic experience. And I ran dual 
Xenons 20 years ago. What astonishes me is the number of different models of 
any CPU. The W-1200 has 43 different CPU choices ranging from  $400 to $4000.


From: Hardware  on behalf of Greg 
Sevart 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:31 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com 
Subject: Re: [H] time for upgrade

Plus considerably more PCIe lanes--but ultimately an older platform and at a 
pretty big clock speed disadvantage.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Al A
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:01 PM
To: Hardware Group 
Subject: Re: [H] time for upgrade

I agree with the Xeon. If you can swing it, get the 22xx series Xeon for 4 
channel memory.

Al

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:15 PM Greg Sevart  wrote:

> My recommendation at this point given your requirements would be a
> W-1200 series Xeon and ECC Unbuffered memory.
>
>



Re: [H] time for upgrade

2021-03-18 Thread Greg Sevart
Plus considerably more PCIe lanes--but ultimately an older platform and at a 
pretty big clock speed disadvantage.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Al A
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:01 PM
To: Hardware Group 
Subject: Re: [H] time for upgrade

I agree with the Xeon. If you can swing it, get the 22xx series Xeon for 4 
channel memory.

Al

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:15 PM Greg Sevart  wrote:

> My recommendation at this point given your requirements would be a 
> W-1200 series Xeon and ECC Unbuffered memory.
>
>



Re: [H] time for upgrade

2021-03-18 Thread Al A
I agree with the Xeon. If you can swing it, get the 22xx series Xeon for 4
channel memory.

Al

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:15 PM Greg Sevart  wrote:

> My recommendation at this point given your requirements would be a W-1200
> series Xeon and ECC Unbuffered memory.
>
>


Re: [H] time for upgrade

2021-03-18 Thread Greg Sevart
My recommendation at this point given your requirements would be a W-1200 
series Xeon and ECC Unbuffered memory.

X299 is a dead platform, and if you're not considering anything AMD, I think 
that's (W1200 series) the best solution.

e.g.,
Asus Pro WS W480-ACE (A SuperMicro board like the X12SAE would be a fine choice 
- perhaps even better as SuperMicro focuses on DIY servers and higher-end 
workstations almost exclusively)
Xeon W1290P (10C, 3.7-5.3GHz)
2666/2933 ECC UDIMM memory (e.g., from Asus compatibility list: 
https://www.newegg.com/hynix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/0RN-000W-003A4 though I 
personally would go with a couple 32GB/2933 sticks like 
https://store.supermicro.com/32gb-ddr4-2933-mem-dr432l-hl01-eu29.html)



-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of _ 
Winterlight
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:37 PM
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Subject: [H] time for upgrade

I have had my ASUS E6896_P9X79_WS board with Intel i7-4930K , 64GB of Crucial 
Ballistic DDR 3 and a Nvidia 1070 going on 8 years. It has served me well but 
in the last year I have had to replace the 850w Seasonic PS, the Thermaltake 
CPU water cooling and now a memory dimm has gone bad which caused all sorts of 
corrupt files. I am not a gamer. What I need is  rock solid dependable 
performance and if I want to play a game or edit video it is no problem.

  So now I am thinking maybe I should consider doing a major upgrade of a Asus 
Workstation motherboard, modern Intel CPU, and DDR4 ram. I know AMD is all the 
hot CPU now but I prefer the stability and compatibility inherent with Intel 
products. I gave myself a $1500 - $2000  budget and went looking to see what I 
could do.

The problem I am having is the multitude of choices. It looks like there are 
six Asus WS boards to choose from a huge assortment of I7 and I9 CPUs and I 
will probably stick with Crucial for the RAM. Any guidance from the collective 
is appreciated.