Re: [gump] Gump running on Harmony!!

2006-11-15 Thread Sam Ruby

Tim Ellison wrote:

Alexey Petrenko wrote:

2006/11/15, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

Do we have a solution for that?

Yes, it is a modicum of work for a C-hacker.

It simply requires extending the tools launcher as described earlier
(I'll hunt down the archive if required).

ant runs java compiler without javac executable...

Or I'm missing something?


If Ant depends upon the non-API com.sun packages in tools.jar then I
guess we can decide to create an adapter in the suncompat module.


The compiler is pluggable in Ant, look for the build.compiler option:

http://ant.apache.org/manual/CoreTasks/javac.html

- Sam Ruby


Re: [vote] Graduate Apache Harmony podling from the Incubator

2006-10-20 Thread Sam Ruby
[x] +1 Graduate Apache Harmony from incubation, and let it petition the 
board for Top Level Project status


- Sam Ruby


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Re: Harmony: project purpose

2005-05-07 Thread Sam Ruby
Anthony Green wrote:
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:55 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
I firmly believe that we can form an inclusive community in which
everybody who is willing to meet each other half was has an opportunity
to participate.
Yes, we've seen this work before...
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/java-announce/2000/msg1.html
Cygnus and the FSF were both implementing our own versions of the core
class libraries.  GNU Classpath was LGPLd at the time.  This was
unsuitable for Cygnus, who wanted something more like the libgcc or
libstdc++ license.  In the end, the FSF agreed to change the GNU
Classpath license and Cygnus assigned copyright of all of our class
library code to the FSF.  It was a great move for everybody.
Excellent!
I doubt that we know yet what (if any?) change to the GNU Classpath 
license would be required, nor even if a copyright assignment from the 
ASF would be required (be aware the contributors don't currently assign 
copyright to the ASF, instead they grant the ASF a copyright license to 
distribute), but it is nice to know that there is precedent here.

Perhaps in this way we can also address the Classpath/APR license issue.
Related reading:
  http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
  http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility
- Sam Ruby


Re: Harmony: project purpose

2005-05-07 Thread Sam Ruby
Doug Lea wrote:
Re: licensing etc.
I think the brilliance of Geir's move here is that all of
FSF, Sun, IBM, BEA, etc now have equal motivation to change
their licensing so that they can participate. I hope they all
do.
Add the ASF to that list.
I firmly believe that we can form an inclusive community in which
everybody who is willing to meet each other half was has an opportunity
to participate.
- Sam Ruby


Re: Harmony: project purpose

2005-05-07 Thread Sam Ruby
Mark Wielaard wrote:
I'll make sure I talk to one of the FSF legal people again to make sure
there is progress in these discussions. Some people are setting up a new
teleconference between the ASF and FSF to talk about these issues more
directly.
The lengthy set of teleconferences we have been having have been 
somewhat... inconclusive.

It is my hope that the harmony proposal accelerates that process. 
Preferably with an answer that we all like.  But if not - at some point 
even an answer that we don't like is better than lingering unanswered 
open questions.

I'd also like to point out that we are not at that point yet.  Not even 
close.  Apache incubation can be a fairly long process, particularly for 
proposals such as this one.

This is still a lot of room for optimism.
Concrete questions to help focus the discussion:
  * Can ClassPath use APR?
  * Can Harmony use ClassPath?
- Sam Ruby
P.S.  I still believe that we all would be best served if the 
meta-harmony discussions were moved to the harmony mailing lists, 
reporting back as appropriate as we come to conclusions, but sometimes 
it doesn't make sense to argue with a herd of elephants.