Re: [gump] Gump running on Harmony!!
Tim Ellison wrote: Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/11/15, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Do we have a solution for that? Yes, it is a modicum of work for a C-hacker. It simply requires extending the tools launcher as described earlier (I'll hunt down the archive if required). ant runs java compiler without javac executable... Or I'm missing something? If Ant depends upon the non-API com.sun packages in tools.jar then I guess we can decide to create an adapter in the suncompat module. The compiler is pluggable in Ant, look for the build.compiler option: http://ant.apache.org/manual/CoreTasks/javac.html - Sam Ruby
Re: [vote] Graduate Apache Harmony podling from the Incubator
[x] +1 Graduate Apache Harmony from incubation, and let it petition the board for Top Level Project status - Sam Ruby - Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Harmony: project purpose
Anthony Green wrote: On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:55 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote: I firmly believe that we can form an inclusive community in which everybody who is willing to meet each other half was has an opportunity to participate. Yes, we've seen this work before... http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/java-announce/2000/msg1.html Cygnus and the FSF were both implementing our own versions of the core class libraries. GNU Classpath was LGPLd at the time. This was unsuitable for Cygnus, who wanted something more like the libgcc or libstdc++ license. In the end, the FSF agreed to change the GNU Classpath license and Cygnus assigned copyright of all of our class library code to the FSF. It was a great move for everybody. Excellent! I doubt that we know yet what (if any?) change to the GNU Classpath license would be required, nor even if a copyright assignment from the ASF would be required (be aware the contributors don't currently assign copyright to the ASF, instead they grant the ASF a copyright license to distribute), but it is nice to know that there is precedent here. Perhaps in this way we can also address the Classpath/APR license issue. Related reading: http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility - Sam Ruby
Re: Harmony: project purpose
Doug Lea wrote: Re: licensing etc. I think the brilliance of Geir's move here is that all of FSF, Sun, IBM, BEA, etc now have equal motivation to change their licensing so that they can participate. I hope they all do. Add the ASF to that list. I firmly believe that we can form an inclusive community in which everybody who is willing to meet each other half was has an opportunity to participate. - Sam Ruby
Re: Harmony: project purpose
Mark Wielaard wrote: I'll make sure I talk to one of the FSF legal people again to make sure there is progress in these discussions. Some people are setting up a new teleconference between the ASF and FSF to talk about these issues more directly. The lengthy set of teleconferences we have been having have been somewhat... inconclusive. It is my hope that the harmony proposal accelerates that process. Preferably with an answer that we all like. But if not - at some point even an answer that we don't like is better than lingering unanswered open questions. I'd also like to point out that we are not at that point yet. Not even close. Apache incubation can be a fairly long process, particularly for proposals such as this one. This is still a lot of room for optimism. Concrete questions to help focus the discussion: * Can ClassPath use APR? * Can Harmony use ClassPath? - Sam Ruby P.S. I still believe that we all would be best served if the meta-harmony discussions were moved to the harmony mailing lists, reporting back as appropriate as we come to conclusions, but sometimes it doesn't make sense to argue with a herd of elephants.