RE: [ha-Safran]: Subject search vs. Key Word

2004-03-22 Thread Rettberg, Dan
I would say it depends on what you want.  Key word searching makes it 
possible to cast a large net, and to get lots of "hits".  Unfortunately, if 
you are looking for something quite specific, most of those hits will be 
"false drops", and you will end up perhaps not finding the "tree for the 
forest".  Key word searching can be helpful at times, but it is not a 
panacaea.  I am personally very upset at the number of cataloging utilities 
that seem to operate on the principle that it is.

Dan Rettberg
Rare Book and Manuscript Cataloger
Klau Library
Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion
Cincinnati, Ohio

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RE: [ha-Safran]: Subject search vs. Key Word

2004-03-22 Thread Stahl, Sheryl
This is definitely an issue with our patrons too.  I usually recommend that 
they do a two step search. I tell them to start with a keyword search 
(which they're going to do anyway),pick out a couple of records that look 
good and then check what subject headings have been assigned to them. I 
then recommend that they do a new search under those subject 
headings.  Since LC subjects are not very intuitive, I think this approach 
points them to the best terms pretty quickly.

But it also depends on what they're looking for.  If they're doing a major 
research paper, they should find all (or at least a lot of the resources 
available).  If the assignment is to find any book or article, then finding 
one or 2 things in a keyword search might be fine.

Sheryl

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Frances-Henry Library
Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion
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Re: [ha-Safran]: Subject search vs. Key Word

2004-03-21 Thread Ted Koppel
Whoa Andrea, you're thinking like a librarian!  Think like a patron for a 
moment.  They don't know subject headings from a hole in the ground.
They could care less about LCSH and MARC and 650s and all of that.  Not 
only DON'T they know, but 98% of them don't want to know.  They understand 
key words because they can use them on Google.  They don't understand 
controlled vocabularies and cross references and don't want to take the 
time to learn.

You are far better off with a library system that (invisibly) causes a 
keyword search to *also* search subject headings.  The patron does not want 
to think or learn, they want their book.  So make the software do the 
work.  Don't confuse the patron, deliver him/her the information they want, 
and play tricks behind the scenes.

Ted
(who works for a library software company)




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